Regarding the horse, did I ever mention raspberry leaf and chaste tree berry powder? (Available at health food stores or online--much cheaper in bulk) and are the main ingredients in lots of "mare remedy" supplements. Chaste tree berry is also helpful for Cushingoid horses.
I've used those herbs with difficult mares and after a few weeks, there are almost zero behavioral signs of heats. With my current mare, the only hint is that she will give my gelding dirty looks.
OK, so the mare problem is a metaphor?
You kinda got blindsided there.
