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« on: April 12, 2014, 06:13:41 AM »

While reading through several articles, I was struck by the fact that my uBPD mom is still married to my uNPD dad after 57 years. I read that one of the criteria for BPD is unstable, and multiple relationships. While their relationship is definitely unstable, they still remain married. My mom threatened divorce since I can remember, but never acted on it. I recognize many of the other traits in my mom, the Queen, the Witch, the Waif, and the Hermit. She would vacillate between all four depending on the person and the situation.

Two of my siblings and myself have been married three times. I find it very hard to type this, as I am so ashamed that I have been married three times and worry that I have a significant defect that I am not aware of which has resulted in multiple marriages. I read through the material about how  a BPD idolizes their partner and forms strong attachments quickly, followed by devaluation and even demonizing this partner. While I ignored a lot of red flags early on in the relationship, I didn't demonize them. I just didn't understand why I couldn't recognize the character flaws initially and then began to question myself as to what was wrong with me that I couldn't see this. I guess I am trying to understand if I have traits of a BPD or just codependency coupled with PTSD. It felt strangely familiar and uncomfortable at the same time to have married three men who put me on a pedestal at first, then criticized everything that I did.

In reading through the material on how a BPD parent affects their children, I understand how emotional development can be delayed or even halted as a result of the emotionally dysfunctional parent. I worry that I may still have areas of emotional growth that are stagnant. I guess I am still worried that I am the crazy one! I just don't understand how if I see all of these personality disorders in all of my family, how could I not have one to? How could I have escaped this?

How do I know if I have reached a level of emotional maturity and stability in which I can recognize the difference between a healthy and unhealthy relationship?  I know logically what a healthy relationship looks like, I have read a lot of material on the subject. I just can't seem to stop attracting the same type of man.

On a positive note, I do recognize them now almost immediately. I was introduced to a man last fall and after two conversations, I realized that this man was looking for someone to rescue him. I did not end the acquaintance immediately, as I felt I should. I felt the old feelings of guilt creeping in and rationalized that he probably was still a good guy who was just hurting. I felt guilty that I wanted to run away and couldn't find the right way to tell him to not contact me. Finally, after several months, I did tell him and received several angry texts from him. Basically they stated that I had gotten what I wanted and used him for my gain. I was a little shocked, but understood that he was the one who was looking for something from me and in the process of telling me how pretty and smart I was, he was looking for the same in return. He needed someone to prop him up emotionally. I never responded to his flattery and always kept the conversations focused on our respective children.

I guess I have several questions:

How do I know if I have traits of BPD or if it is just PTSD and codependency?

How can my parents be married for so many years and yet I and two of my siblings can't maintain a relationship?

How can I tell a person that I recognize as emotionally immature or codependent to move on without feeling guilty?

How can I know if I have reached a level of emotionally maturity and stability to have a healthy relationship?

How is it possible that I could be the only one of my family that does not have a personality disorder? None of them have been diagnosed, but my mom definitely has the traits of BPD and my dad fits the bill for NPD. My oldest sister definitely is BPD, she even once faked having three personalities. My brother has many traits of NPD and my other sister is most definitely BPD with a lot of traits of PTSD. She also received the brunt of the physical abuse by our mother.

Also, I have been accused by one sister of having buried rage. Really? I don't have tantrums. I don't scream and yell at people. I didn't take a shot gun and blow out a window, like she did when she was angry at her first husband. Am I missing something? Could I have buried rage? How do I know if I do have buried rage when I don't feel angry all the time? Should I feel angry all the time if I do have buried rage? Is she just projecting?

Sorry, I know this post is long and disjointed. I just have a lot of questions that arose after reading several of the articles.


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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2014, 10:12:07 AM »

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How do I know if I have traits of BPD or if it is just PTSD and codependency?

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How is it possible that I could be the only one of my family that does not have a personality disorder? None of them have been diagnosed, but my mom definitely has the traits of BPD and my dad fits the bill for NPD. My oldest sister definitely is BPD, she even once faked having three personalities. My brother has many traits of NPD and my other sister is most definitely BPD with a lot of traits of PTSD. She also received the brunt of the physical abuse by our mother.

I felt these two kind of went together so I thought I'd answer them together. I would think a therapist would be able to help you answer those. But disorders like BPD seem to run on a wide spectrum, so no two people are going to exhibit the same symptoms and some will be worse than others. You may have only picked up some of the behaviors (fleas) but aren't enough to be considered having any disorder. I know that I picked up some fleas and I've been working very hard to get rid of them.

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How can my parents be married for so many years and yet I and two of my siblings can't maintain a relationship?

My parents have also been married for a very long time (getting close to 50 years), my mom is uBPD and my dad is an enabler. In their case, I really have a feeling that my dad's mom had some PD (talked about how she was dying for years, expected her husband to cater to her, favored my uncle who was in jail over my dad who was the model son, etc) so I think he's repeating the cycle. He thinks their relationship is normal because that is all he's ever known. Plus, my parents are what you would call "old fashioned" meaning that they don't particularly believe in divorce. I do know my mom has threatened divorce multiple times, but when I've suggested if she's so unhappy in their marriage that she should leave, she goes all waif and wails that she'd have to find a job and that she "worked hard to make my dad the man he is" so he owes her for all her years of hard work. So while your parents may still be married, it's probably not a healthy relationship and neither is willing to end it.

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How can I know if I have reached a level of emotionally maturity and stability to have a healthy relationship?

I don't know if I have a good answer to this. It sounds like you are on your way though if you are starting to see the red flags. Maybe after you are able to deal with the guilt you are feeling. I think it's hard as kids not to attract unhealthy people. I was also in a very serious relationship with an emotional abuser (we were engaged), but we didn't end up going through with it. My current husband isn't an abuser, but he does have his share of emotional issues (as do I). But despite each having issues, I don't feel our marriage is unhealthy - we balance each other in positive ways.

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Also, I have been accused by one sister of having buried rage. Really? I don't have tantrums. I don't scream and yell at people. I didn't take a shot gun and blow out a window, like she did when she was angry at her first husband. Am I missing something? Could I have buried rage? How do I know if I do have buried rage when I don't feel angry all the time? Should I feel angry all the time if I do have buried rage? Is she just projecting?

Obviously I don't know you well enough to say one way or another. It's definitely possible she is projecting her own anger issues on you. It's also possible you're burying them. Most of my personal issues lie with my inability to appropriately express emotions and I realized that I had anger issues too. I realized that I was holding my anger and frustration in so much that eventually I'd hit a breaking point and just explode. That was the hardest for me to admit to. Whether you have anger/rage issues is something only you can answer by taking a hard and honest look at yourself.

I know it's long, I hope I helped.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2014, 03:44:41 PM »

Sitara,

Yes, you did help. In reading your response, I realized that if I did have a PD, the therapist I saw for more than a year would have said so. I guess I just still don't trust that I walked away without any serious mental illness. I like your term of fleas! Yes, I would definitely say that I have fleas and also have worked very hard for many years to get rid of them. I was always mortified by my family's behavior, and would use their behavior as a gauge for me.

As to the buried rage. I certainly had a lot of anger when I finally admitted the sexual and emotional abuse ten years ago. This is when I went into therapy. I had a wonderful support group of friends who stayed with me for two days as I crashed from the shattered illusion I had supported for so many years. I still have these wonderful people in my life, and feel very grateful to have their continued support. I just don't feel like an angry person. I cry when I need to. Which is something I never would have allowed myself to do before therapy. If I am angry about something, I state it. Communication is not a problem for me, although I still choke up when I need to tell a person to go away because they are distressing me. Hmmm. Just thinking about what I wrote. Yep. I guess I do bury things. Perhaps the disconnect for me is that watching my mother rage often, I don't see this in me, so I don't consider it rage. Going to do some introspection now.

Thanks for responding and helping me to sort some things out! Smiling (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2014, 05:20:01 PM »

Glad it helped, and I can't take credit for the fleas! It's a term I picked up from the forums.
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