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« on: May 01, 2013, 02:09:30 PM »

So it all came crashing down just as a foresaw! After kicking her out for raging on me she went right back to meth / alcohol. She completely failed at the court review hearing and she was remanded. She's going back to inpatient rehab for 6 months, plus a couple months in jail. I kept telling her this would happen.

Anyway 4 days ago she called me professing her love for me, yadda yadda, well her meth using homeless boyfriend 2 weeks out of prison wasn't too keen on that. She called me the next day chewing me out saying she has a boyfriend, flip flopped said she doesnt love me, etc etc. okay whatever I just played it off.

Well here comes her court date... .  she wasn't expecting to see me there apparently. She didn't say one word to me. During recess I heard her call her druggie bf (of one week i might add) saying "guess what my ex is a here"

Oh man, when we went back into court... .  my phone was BLOWING UP with calls and texts by him... .  Asking if I did her, etc etc. Man dude doesnt understand when I keep tellin him she cannot hang with you, it's a probation violation if she does, and DA assured me this is her last chance, next screw up is prison. This guy's been "dating" her for one week! All they have in common is a love for crystal meth and sex. But its amazing how a BPD can get some men SOO hooked on them so quick.

Well at any rate, when the public defender told her that I'm behind her going back to rehab she didnt look pleased. She turned around and just glared at me... .  But she'll get over it in a couple weeks when the drugs leave her system and the depression sets in. It happened that way last time and she was thanking me for saving her life.

I will probably give this a shot this time around with significant clean time under her belt and depending on how receptive she is... .  This new boo is very very jealous of her and I... .  from what I heard, she would talk about me A LOT... .  guess she's still hooked 2 1/2 months later. I really did retain all the power by dumping her unexpectedly and enforcing a critical boundary.
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2013, 10:43:40 AM »

Rockhard

I hear some hope in your words that she will start rehab and be healed.

I am honest here: I have my doubts. Even if she is serious about starting rehab, its such a long way, 8 years with crystal meth and alcohol... .  and BPD or even Bipolar... .  

Do you have sometimes thoughts about having family and kids? You are in the age for this... .  with someone like her you would always be in doubt about drugs again... .  

I am normally not so direct. Hope it is okay for you.
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2013, 11:33:56 AM »

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I really did retain all the power by dumping her unexpectedly and enforcing a critical boundary.



No offense but your future with a drug addict that has BPD is likely not a promising situation.
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2013, 01:03:09 PM »

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Well at any rate, when the public defender told her that I'm behind her going back to rehab she didnt look pleased. She turned around and just glared at me... .  But she'll get over it in a couple weeks when the drugs leave her system and the depression sets in. It happened that way last time and she was thanking me for saving her life.



Codependent much?

Forgive me for being blunt:  your post almost sounds gleeful.  Your seeming giddiness over the chance to rescue her from herself and be the hero is concerning.  I suspect that your comfort level with this mess of a woman is part of a compelling life script for you.

Knock yourself out. Oh and use the board for support. And strength. Smiling (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2013, 04:23:56 PM »

Rockhardabsman, you seem to know what you want and don't want in a partner/relationship.  That's good.  But, then you seem determined to somehow make this girl fit your mold, rather than just accepting that she isn't what you want (drugs, promiscuity, legal problems, unfaithful, etc.) and moving on. 

She is who she is, and you've pulled no punches here when describing her to us.  What is keeping you connected to a girl who so clearly doesn't meet your standards?  It sounds like you've given this more than one chance already?  I'm not saying throw in the towel, just wondering what has you so hooked?
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2013, 11:15:36 PM »

You know I've read your other posts, and have been waiting for your tone to change but clearly it hasn't.  You write about her issues as some would talk about tying their shoes.  It just flows naturally.  Oh by the way my ex is currently on a meth run.  Oh by the way my ex is incredibly promiscuous.  Oh by the way the courts have remanded her to rehab.  These are major issues.  Dare I say, that at first blush, your ex appears to be among the most troubled I have read about on this site and that's saying something.  Yet you pay no mind to any of this.  I mean, man, if the woman I am interested in is having random sex with drug addicts that's a deal breaker.  I am done.  This woman's drug problem is so bad that the courts have to order her into treatment.  That implies a very serious problem.  Along with these glaring issues with addiction, you're dealing with someone with a personality disorder that is extremely difficult to treat.  I can't imagine with all this going on that she can so much as hold down a job.

What concerns me is that there is almost zero consideration of your own needs in any of your posts.  It's about this woman and this woman only.  Those that responded citing your own issues with codependency are right on the money.  You are deeply enmeshed with this woman.  You showing up at your ex-girlfriend's court hearing and recommending that she be remanded to treatment for your own benefit strikes me as manipulative.  Stop worrying about her and worry about yourself.  That you're willing to put up with ALL of this suggests you have plenty to work on.

This woman has really wounded you.  When I read your posts, I sense a real narcissistic injury.  When you wrote of her trading up, you spoke of the other man only terms of his material possessions and social status relative to yours.  You often make sure to write us about your many motorcycles.  Even your screen name suggests that superficial physical attributes are important to you.  I am telling you that you need to reassess your priorities.  You can start by writing down what you need in a partner.  Something tells me, it won't resemble your ex girlfriend one bit.



   
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2013, 05:49:06 PM »

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You showing up at your ex-girlfriend's court hearing and recommending that she be remanded to treatment for your own benefit strikes me as manipulative.

This is OUR court hearing not just hers, I was the victim in the case, I was subpoenad to be there. Why am I still involved, because the courts are still continuing to involve me after she re-offended causing me to kick her out. I do have a vested interest already in this case regardless so of course I'm going to go and see how it plays out subpoena or not because a part of me does actually want to see her do well in life.

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You often make sure to write us about your many motorcycles.  Even your screen name suggests that superficial physical attributes are important to you.

Material possessions to me really don't mean much, I've gone from both ends of the spectrum. What boggles me is why someone would be attracted to homelessness and those that have no desire to aspire to be more, or not be content with what they did have and always seeking for ONLY material things. And as for my screen name, no I do not think highly of my physical attributes, this was more or less based on a very old joke among friends as for a long time I was 100lbs overweight and was far from having "rock hard abs" but as a joke it became my screenname amongst friends. I never had, nor will I probably ever have rockhardabs.

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I am honest here: I have my doubts. Even if she is serious about starting rehab, its such a long way, 8 years with crystal meth and alcohol... .  and BPD or even Bipolar... .  

yes I agree with you 100%. My experience was that 3 months of rehab was not long enough for her. And 6 months now may not be long enough either but it is a start. And despite being sober for the short time she was back, the BPD issue's did manifest itself albiet not anywhere near as severe.

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What is keeping you connected to a girl who so clearly doesn't meet your standards?  It sounds like you've given this more than one chance already?

Because subtract the problems which she does admit to she meets my standards in most every other way. I see her struggles, I know exactly why she is the way she is, I see her wanting to change, but stuck... .  And I only want to be around when she wants to genuinely work on it if that does come.

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Do you have sometimes thoughts about having family and kids? You are in the age for this... .  with someone like her you would always be in doubt about drugs again... .  

I do but I am sterile so it's kind of a moot point.

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Your seeming giddiness over the chance to rescue her from herself and be the hero is concerning.  I suspect that your comfort level with this mess of a woman is part of a compelling life script for you.

I won't lie and say that I am not happy with the outcome this time around because I sincerely do think she needs this. She's never had to face any consequences for her poor actions until she got involved with me. I paid for rehab last time, but this time around I have no compelling interest in helping her out of her situation, the courts / rehab / etc will play out naturally and I'm not getting involved in that. I realize I cannot save someone unless they want to be saved. I've been pretty damn firm with her this go around because 2 reasons, I have more respect for myself this time around, and 2 because no one ever stands up to her and if more people said NO to her like I do "maybe" someday she will get it.

Yes I have built up a comfort level, but I have a low tolerance for nonsense now. Why do I care? Why shouldn't I, after knowing someone for 2 years, dating / living together for the past 1 1/2 it's hard not to develop some feelings of attachment and care. If you see some kid you don't know beat up and lying on the side of the road would you not feel bad? How much more so would you feel for someone you knew intimately. Regardless of the pain she put me through, and yes there was pain, I know her pain has been built up throughout her whole lifetime, it doesn't immediately kill those feelings, they will always be there in some form or fashion.

I do know a lot of what I want, in myself and in others around me. No I don't want drugs, promiscuity, legal problems, unfaithful, etc. Sad part is neither does she... .  but she's the only one that can change that. Would I let her back... .  not right now, and not for a long time, it would take a tremendous amount of self reflection and true change for me to consider it, and that's up to her to pull through. Only time will tell... .  
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