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« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2013, 01:21:53 PM »

I just made a huge step back. I agreed to all her demands again just to get her to stop. At least she doesn compleltet buy that I will. I keep saying try and thats angering her. Now what? I was going well from a personal stand point.

Ok Cipher - let's take a deep breath and process.

So, you gave in to exactly what demands?

Do those demands harm you personally?

Are they boundary-buster/relationship-buster issues?

Have you had a chance to read The High Conflict Couple?
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« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2013, 01:29:49 PM »

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So, you gave in to exactly what demands? being completley submisive

Do those demands harm you personally? physically no. mentally and emotionally probably

Are they boundary-buster/relationship-buster issues?
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possible so for me anyway

Have you had a chance to read The High Conflict Couple? no please link it

Her demands:

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I want the submissive you back.  I do not want this "new" you.  I want the you that I feel in love with which was the kind sweet sensitive I do NOT want what you are trying to change into because that is not you.  Please bring the submissive you back!

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« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2013, 01:32:04 PM »

www.amazon.com/The-High-Conflict-Couple-Dialectical-Validation/dp/157224450X

This should be the book you want to be working with at home or in MC.

Ok - let's break this down... . exactly what does being completely submissive look like to her?
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« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2013, 02:03:04 PM »

I can not say no to any demands she has on me
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« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2013, 02:06:23 PM »

I can not say no to any demands she has on me



I saw you have a similar thread on staying - would you like to continue with both threads?

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« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2013, 05:21:44 AM »

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I saw you have a similar thread on staying - would you like to continue with both threads?

No I guess I would like to contunue this one. She has advanced her raging to now include removing her ring and very much letting me know she has. I know its an additional tactic to get further reactions out of me. She is trying everything she can to get me to "go back the the old me".

I think this is at the point of not being able to salvage this relationship. I struggel everyday to figure out how to deal with more intense and new attacts. She finds ways to make it hard to even respond. It all gets turned back to me. Infact she is even saying that I am turning it all back on her. Now to a certain point I believe that to be true. Her goal it seems in this is to make it so that I am not allowed to voice a decending opinion. As I have tried to tell her shouldn't I be able to? She hasn't flat out said no to that. She only says how I say it is mean and in her words I use "jack ass comments".  She right now is huge on why I have changed. At this point I cant really say other than the old way wasn't getting u to a better place. Then the responce to that is "You think that being a jerk to me like you are is making it any better?"  I have to admit to her its not. Becaue it isn't.

I think i need help to find the strenght and currage to walk away.  I still have huge guilt of obligations attached I need to wokr through.  If I were to llok at what happens if I stay... . I don't live a long life. I know I will be miserable and my mental and physical health will deteriorate.  It just won't be fast enough to end the pain.

Wow i just re-read that and it make sme sound broken. I guess maybe I am. I'm still wanting to feel better and get myself better. This relationship isn't making that very easy to do.


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« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2013, 09:29:09 AM »

I've been reading alot of differnent things about BPD and the relationships in general.  Help me if I am wrong or out of line with what I am about to say.

For the most part (not every case I know) if a pwBPD has not gotten, or wanted to recieve help the Non will leave and leave soon. The nons that do not leave or leave soon have there own "issues" they have to deal with and that causes them to stay in there missery... . I am in this boat. I think I have issues I need to get to the bottom of. Some overly passive and poeple pleasing issues that do not allow for me to work on getting me to a healthy point in life... .

Now I have made soem progress. I know this becasue I feel different and what my wife see is different an scary. She wanted me to go to T to "fix" me. Now that I am doeing that she is scared and pushging to get the "old" me back.  Now she is afraid if the new me i s"fixed" I will leave... I think she is right.
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