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« on: February 17, 2016, 01:25:20 PM »

Ok I've shared some of this already. But I don't think she has a total replacement yet. And I don't think she did when she left three months ago. 

I think her replacement is the "love", acceptance and validation she is getting at the bars she is hanging out at. New friends male and female.  People are laughing at her jokes, listening to her, not judging her, etc.  I'm not naive enough to think she's probably slept with somebody sadly. 

I think she may be getting closer to a replacement as she's pulling back now. Which will make it easier for me to as well I hope.

But again I keep asking someone in their mid thirties to upper forties hanging out regularly at bars. What kind of guy will she really meet? 

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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2016, 01:43:18 PM »

Mine doesn't have a replacement yet either. I suspect that she had a sad Valentine's Day with her daughter, as she posted something on Facebook about Valentine's Day being about love, but also about sugar, and thanking her daughter for reminding her of that.

She might have gotten wise and is just staying away from relationships for a bit.
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2016, 01:45:29 PM »

It's hard to think of someone we love being with someone else.  I understand.  It can hurt in a cutting way.

People are laughing at her jokes, listening to her, not judging her, etc.

Sounds like she is looking for acceptance.

But again I keep asking someone in their mid thirties to upper forties hanging out regularly at bars. What kind of guy will she really meet?

Are you worried that someone else may be able to fill that role?  Are you blaming yourself?
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2016, 01:54:29 PM »

She always said her mother made her feel like sh*t and worthless.  Her first husband too. But they were together ten years total. Her second husband married four together five plus years also didn't love her like she needed. Judged her etc

So I come along. We were together almost two years total.  I made mistakes I know that. Mistakes I shouldn't have made. Ones that triggered her. 

But yes. I don't see how anyone else could love or accept her more given all I know about her past. Her present. Her emotional issues and probable BPD.
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2016, 02:14:06 PM »

She always said her mother made her feel like sh*t and worthless.  Her first husband too. But they were together ten years total. Her second husband married four together five plus years also didn't love her like she needed. Judged her etc

So I come along. We were together almost two years total.  I made mistakes I know that. Mistakes I shouldn't have made. Ones that triggered her. 

But yes. I don't see how anyone else could love or accept her more given all I know about her past. Her present. Her emotional issues and probable BPD.

First, there's nothing you could've done to have prevented the discard.  Nothing.  Stop beating yourself up.  You say you made mistakes during your r/s and I'm sure you did.  We all made mistakes somewhere down the line in a r/s, we're all human after all.  The problem with that is you were in a r/s with someone who was unhealthy.  You say you triggered her.  Did she not ever trigger you in some way?   A healthy adult will talk about why they felt a certain way, not push the blame off to someone else. 

It's ok to love her, Scopi.  It is.  But you have got to move past her.  Not for her, but for you.  It's tough, I know, do I ever know how tough it is.  But you have to, at some point or you're going to find yourself in a whole lot more hurt.  I had to let go of the fantasy that is/was J.  I wondered the same thing you are struggling with.  You know what?  She replaced me before she left me and I never knew it.  It hurt beyond words.  Get away while you can.  Don't stay in the FOG!  It's not your responsibility for her to be happy or loved.  It's just not.  You've put up a great fight and any normal person would see that you do love her.  But she doesn't and she won't ever see that.  She can't. 

What I'm saying is you can love her and you'll know she's being loved.  You'll know that she is 100%, because the one loving her is you.  But you aren't responsible for her life or how she perceives your love.  Trust me, she knows you love her.  She knows that but she can't show you that love back because she doesn't love herself, not deep down inside.  That's not your fault.  She was like that long before you and will be long after you.  That doesn't diminish what you had over the past couple of years.  But think about it, can you keep up the lifestyle she requires?  How do you see yourself if you had in 3,5, or 10 years from now with her? 

Life's to short.  Go out there and find a girl who will show you all the love you have to give back.  Go find a healthy person and leave her to find her way.  She'll survive.  She did before you, she'll certainly do so afterward.

I say all this from a place of acceptance and understanding.  I'm not judging you.  You know my story, what I've struggled with.  I woke up the other day and realized that it's not me missing out on J's love, it's her missing out on mine.  That's a choice she made.  I offered it as much as I could, she just couldn't/wouldn't accept it.  That's on her plate, not mine.

Stay strong and keep moving forward.  You'll thank us later.

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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2016, 04:51:48 PM »

Thank you... .
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2016, 05:36:45 PM »

Scopi... .

I have been following your story and reading your posts.

I don't want to be insensitive to your emotions in any way. We have all been through the turmoil of a BPD relationship and we can all relate to you in some way or another as so many of our experiences mirror image what you have been through.

But... .there comes a time, as some of my close friends have said to me, that an intervention is in order.

Mate, you need to get off the rollercoaster. Your emotions have been so up and down... .from being so comfortable in thinking that you can deal with the arms length "friendship" to then being distressed about the lack of contact from her that you have had since you got back from your 4 day trip.

The definition of insanity... .apparently... .is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result to occur. You need to really look inside yourself and ask yourself if you truthfully believe that she will be different at any point... .even though you continue to give of yourself unconditionally? It would appear from everything you have said that it is unlikely to happen as her behaviour is consistent... .and so is yours. You keep giving... .she keeps taking.

Right now, if you were a mate of mine... .and trust me I have been through exactly the same thing that you are going through... .I would be calling you Matt (i don't know what your real name is) but any time I saw you I would call you Matt.

Why... .well because it seems to me that you allow this woman to walk in and out of your life when it suits her and everytime she does it... .she wipes her feet on you as she passes in or out.

I don't believe you want to live your life as a Matt! I also don't believe that you want to live your life as a convenience for someone else to use.

Time has come my friend to stop thinking about her and to start thinking about you. If you don't love and respect yourself... .then why should someone else love and respect you?

Lot's of great advice from people here that have all had their own experiences... .but you have to start with what you think about you and not what you think she thinks about you. She is a fully capable and functioning adult. She has managed to get this far in life. It is not your fault that she has made bad decisions and is living the life she now has. But... .why do you want to keep making bad decisions about thinking that you can save someone who maybe does not want or needs to be saved?

This is not meant to be critical in anyway. I have certainly travelled the same path as you... .but for me... .the day I was called Matt... .was the wake up for me. No one walks over me and wipes their feet as they go. That was my turning point.

What is yours going to be? You need to get out of the FOG mate!
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2016, 06:42:31 PM »

So I come along. We were together almost two years total.  I made mistakes I know that. Mistakes I shouldn't have made. Ones that triggered her.

I did too.  I made so many mistakes.  I think it's good to be able to see that.  It gives us perspective and it allows us to see the dynamics as they were really occurring in the relationship.  Sometimes two people can love one another very much, and still somehow not be able to make a relationship work.

But yes. I don't see how anyone else could love or accept her more given all I know about her past. Her present. Her emotional issues and probable BPD.

I understand, but we can't know.  That real issue, I think is accepting that life is going on.  The relationship didn't work.  And that's a tragedy - a very real and serious loss.  I understand that implicitly.  And it will take time to grieve that loss.  Perhaps quite some time.  Your ex is looking for love and acceptance just as we all are.  Try to not be upset with her about that.  Whether it is sooner or later, eventually she will move on.

I know that you have shared that you still want a relationship with her, and that is ok.  I very much understand that.  But as we've talked about before, you have decided you don't want to sign on for such a turbulent relationship. And that is a perfectly valid decision.  But as such, the relationship doesn't have a future.  In such a situation what else can she do but to move on?  What else can you do?
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2016, 04:10:32 AM »

Ok I've shared some of this already. But I don't think she has a total replacement yet. And I don't think she did when she left three months ago.  

I think her replacement is the "love", acceptance and validation she is getting at the bars she is hanging out at. New friends male and female.  People are laughing at her jokes, listening to her, not judging her, etc.  I'm not naive enough to think she's probably slept with somebody sadly.  

I think she may be getting closer to a replacement as she's pulling back now. Which will make it easier for me to as well I hope.

But again I keep asking someone in their mid thirties to upper forties hanging out regularly at bars. What kind of guy will she really meet?  

Few questions Scopikaz to understand your story a little more

How did you meet?

Was she married at the time?

How long had you been separated from your wife before meeting this girl?

Would it upset you if she found a "replacement"? If so, why?

Are you able to remind yourself, when you met her, what was going on for you?
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2016, 04:18:57 AM »

We worked together but didn't know her at time. She worked at remote site.  She quit and moved. Friended me on Facebook. We started messaging for three months. Deep sharing. Personal. Almost nightly.  She was married at time.

After three months we met for first time and it be sexual.

We continued messaging. Met two more times i think. Maybe three.  Then she filed for divorce. And we started dating soon thereafter

I was separated a year and a half at time.

I know she either has or will find replacement. And yes I would be hurt likely.  But I think it's happening now.

What was going on for me when we met I was dating a few others.  Nothing worked out though for various reasons.  She was first one I could have married though
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