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How to communicate after a contentious divorce... Following a contentious divorce and custody battle, there are often high emotion and tensions between the parents. Research shows that constant and chronic conflict between the parents negatively impacts the children. The children sense their parents anxiety in their voice, their body language and their parents behavior. Here are some suggestions from Dean Stacer on how to avoid conflict.
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« on: April 01, 2016, 04:36:56 PM »

Hello all,

Just when I was at an indifferent point about my exBPDgf, out of the blue I begin to have ruminations.  They really are like a drug and I see why NC means not just having communication with them, but actually having no contact of any type to deal with them.  I ran into a mutual friend that told me A LOT of things that were lies within our relationship, such as various sexual partners, actual relationships and an arrest for domestic battery.  My ex lied about it all and I can't believe I was so blind to the crap.  Anyway, after hearing about all of it I began to do some online investigating to see if it was true and I found the mugshot, marriage licenses, and addresses that were never mentioned... .this has set me back in healing.  Why am I finding myself missing someone that lies, replaced me within a day, blamed me for everything, physically hit me, walked out when I needed her the most?  Everyone tells me I need to start dating, but it has only been a little over a month.  Everyone I meet doesn't seem right... .especially ONLINE! 
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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2016, 04:44:35 PM »

That sucks.

I think it is normal to be ruminating. The relationship is now re-framed in a new light, and you have some processing to do about what you now understand.

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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2016, 04:51:57 PM »

Because you are in love with the "idea" of the relationship not the person.  Your mind keeps telling you that the "idea" is real,  it isn't.  I know this is kind of sick but it works.  I imagined if I found out that the man I was in love with sexually assaulted one of my boys... .would I still have feelings for him?  Absolutely not.  The feelings would die right then and there and I wouldn't have any fond memories or thoughts of that man.  If you can do it in that extreme of a situation, you should be able to do it on a smaller scale too.  

Are you sure you are missing her or is it the conflict that hasn't been resolved that is haunting you?  The mean lies and stories about you that she won't apologize for, take back or admit never happened?

I know I personally struggled with never getting an apology for any of it.  It was even my fault somehow if he responded to something he only thought I was doing even though he found out I wasn't doing it.  His logic, well at the time I thought that so you deserved the response.  Then he smiles at me the next day and asks me for a report at work because he knows no one knows more than I do... . Bite me.



     
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2016, 05:07:26 PM »

I don't know what she is saying about me... .the last conversation we had she accused me of cheating, lying and having my friends harass the replacement.  None of which were true... .she apologized for her over reacting, but constantly made it seem as if I was making it difficult for her to get her items.  I gave her a time and place and stuck to it.  She didn't like me having any control.  The lies were lies she told me... .lies about who she had sex with, what type of relationships she had been in, lived with in a relationship, why she was arrested... .I KNOW the truth how I treated her and it was great.  I don't know how, what or why I miss anything about her... .except, I miss how she had shown me love in the beginning.  I miss her loving me... .but, I don't even know if that was real. 
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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2016, 07:01:19 PM »

Hello all,

Just when I was at an indifferent point about my exBPDgf, out of the blue I begin to have ruminations.  They really are like a drug and I see why NC means not just having communication with them, but actually having no contact of any type to deal with them.  I ran into a mutual friend that told me A LOT of things that were lies within our relationship, such as various sexual partners, actual relationships and an arrest for domestic battery.  My ex lied about it all and I can't believe I was so blind to the crap.  Anyway, after hearing about all of it I began to do some online investigating to see if it was true and I found the mugshot, marriage licenses, and addresses that were never mentioned... .this has set me back in healing.  Why am I finding myself missing someone that lies, replaced me within a day, blamed me for everything, physically hit me, walked out when I needed her the most?  Everyone tells me I need to start dating, but it has only been a little over a month.  Everyone I meet doesn't seem right... .especially ONLINE! 

Let's break this down because I think there are 2 separate things that have upset you.

1) a mutual friend spoke to you about your ex.

That in itself already is a trigger for us recovering NONs. I got triggered speaking to my colleague at Easter about my ex as well.

Just speaking about them, or being spoken to about them brings back memories of things that happened, memories of feelings and can be enough to make us go into "but I miss him/her/the way... ."

What is being said really doesn't matter for this bit. Your friend could have told you "she now lives alone on a mountaintop, she's totally happy and grows daisies for a living" or "she now lives in a sleezy motel, she is a total wreck and sells crack for a living" or "she lives at Wisteria lane now with a widower with 6 kids and bakes cookies all day" you would have been thrown back into memory lane anyway. Yes, your thoughts would have been slightly different ("oh... .happy, daisies, totally zen without me... was I the issue then?", "WOW, she's gone off the rails without me, I'm not responsible but the Guilt... .", "a desperate housewife? What kind of act is that?" but the overall effect, thinking of her, ruminating, remembering, longing for the feeling of being loved but hating the abuse would have been the same. Painful and confusing and contradictory. That's why indeed besides not speaking, texting, emailing or smoke signaling them we shouldn't search online, look at pictures, read blogs or discuss them. It's like letting the crackhead smell the crack but not letting them use it.

2) you found out she lied about a lot of things you didn't know already. You feel betrayed, abused, hurt, discarded etc. Again.

And you start doubting if anything you think you knew is actually true at all. Again.

On a slightly smaller scale, because you're a little further along the road to recovery than a month ago, you're reliving what you went through before when you were lied to, betrayed, cheated on, abused, discarded etc.

Of course you're bloody upset by this, and angry and questioning everything.

And 1 + 2 feels like a major setback in the healing.

Just point 1 is something we all do every now and again (sometimes forced by having to work with our ex) and know we shouldn't (if we can avoid it). It is something we do to ourselves and is a part of detaching. At some point we can let it go more and more. We get over it easier and easier.

Point 2 was a surprise gift that feels like a slap in your face. But once you're past the initial anger I hope you will be more resolved than ever that your ex needs to remain your ex.

No more online digging. You know enough. Finding more will not change anything. Feeding point 2 (what more can I find she lied about?) will trigger point 1 again.

Go punch something (not someone... ) to get some of your anger out, go for a long run, whatever works for you. And then pick up your backpack and get back on the road to recovery. It's not a setback, just a detour.
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2016, 07:01:25 PM »

I don't know what she is saying about me... .the last conversation we had she accused me of cheating, lying and having my friends harass the replacement.  None of which were true... .she apologized for her over reacting, but constantly made it seem as if I was making it difficult for her to get her items.  I gave her a time and place and stuck to it.  She didn't like me having any control.  The lies were lies she told me... .lies about who she had sex with, what type of relationships she had been in, lived with in a relationship, why she was arrested... .I KNOW the truth how I treated her and it was great.  I don't know how, what or why I miss anything about her... .except, I miss how she had shown me love in the beginning.  I miss her loving me... .but, I don't even know if that was real. 

Sounds like projection, man. SHE was the one who lied and cheated. You said that she physically attacked you (harassment). I'm sure she's doing this to the replacement! She isn't mad at you. It's not about you at all. She's mad at herself.

I miss my person, too, even though she gave me the Silent Treatment, Push/Pull, mixed messages, and coldly discarded me. What makes abuse so difficult is that the vast majority of the time it comes from somebody you care about.
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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2016, 08:39:55 PM »

Bullet: comment directed to __ (click to insert in post) Sweet tooth, it wasn't harassment... .she physically hit me the last night I saw her.  If I had known this was a pattern, I would have followed my gut and had her arrested.  She admitted to throwing items at her ex husband, but never spoke of doing it to anyone else... .then I find a mugshot of where she was arrested for domestic battery.  I can tell you the replacement is probably being told lies as well, but not my concern.  They will meet their fate, just as those of us in her path have had.  I come here to sound off to everyone, because I was at the point of sending an email to tell her how I felt about everything.  I know this will not do any good.  I know that I do not want to "save" a relationship with her.  She is toxic and it is an unhealthy relationship.  I was someone she had "parentified" (if that is the word) I know the replacement is the same way.  She dates people that are several years older than she is and they are expected to "care" for her.  Once she does not get her demands met, (notice I said demands) she begins to paint us black. 

@BiBi, I know you are right.  Like I said... .I come here to keep me on the right path and in the right frame of mind.  My T helps, but he is of only so much help.  Unless you have been in a relationship with a BPD, and suffered from their fate... .you have no clue.  I would have thought someone was insane if they told me all of this... .I thought I was insane and I lived thru this.  Some days, I wonder if I am the insane one.  I miss someone that wasn't real... .
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