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Before you can make things better, you have to stop making them worse... Have you considered that being critical, judgmental, or invalidating toward the other parent, no matter what she or he just did will only make matters worse? Someone has to be do something. This means finding the motivation to stop making things worse, learning how to interrupt your own negative responses, body language, facial expressions, voice tone, and learning how to inhibit your urges to do things that you later realize are contributing to the tensions.
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Author Topic: Im wrong for putting my phone in my pocket lol. Rediculous  (Read 459 times)
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« on: July 15, 2016, 11:16:02 AM »

Its amazing what kinds of things my girlfriend can say I am wrong for. I mean it never ends.

The other night we were running through a local neighborhood with a little bar area. We stopped because she has been playing that pokemon game. Some random guy came up and was talking to us about the game. No big deal. We went on a little down the street and some girl asked us about the game too. I immediately knew this would be bad. My GF is abnormally jealous. So... .I kept my head down at my phone, didn't say anything to the girl and faced my GF the whole time. My GF answered the questions and the girl walked away. As she walked away I turned so my back was to that other girl and faced my GF. I wanted to make sure there was NO WAY she could accuse me of looking or anything. I was very aware and know for sure I had my eyes on my GF the whole time. I put my phone away in my pocket.

Of course that didn't help. Her reality isn't reality. She looked at me and said... .You didn't have to look at that girl, it was rude. I couldn't help it but I started laughing. I told her how I knew exactly what was going on and I purposely faced her and looked at her the whole time so there was no way she could think I was looking at that girl. She said she saw me stare at her as she walked away. This isn't the first time she has accused me of something like this.

We argued back and forth a while and of course it got nowhere because she can never be wrong. I just told her I was done talking about that. Then she said I put my phone away. If I wasn't looking at her then why did I put my phone away. She said that proved it Laugh out loud (click to insert in post). Its all just so crazy.

At that point no matter what I said she just kept saying over and over again... .you put your phone away, you put your phone away.

I told her... .Ok you win. Thanks for ruining this nice night for me. She said... .Ha! You ruined the night. You put your phone away. You looked at that girl.

We walked back separately which sucked because it was night and not the best neighborhood. After getting back to the house I worked a little bit on the computer and she came in, put her arms around me and said... .Babe Im sorry about tonight. I shouldn't have gotten upset. Its natural to look at girls and Im not mad. There are guys I will find attractive and girls that you find attractive and its ok. Im not mad about that and I wont be jealous anymore. This was all kinds of confusing and Im just thinking WTH! I got up and looked at her. I said... .This is not about you being mad about me looking. You are still saying that I looked at this girl because I thought she was attractive and your trying to tell me what I was thinking and doing when I know its not true. Im sorry but Im not happy with you putting that label on me and I don't have to accept it and be ok with it.

She kept saying she wasn't mad and she wasn't upset at all. She kept saying it was ok that I looked and the whole time Im shaking my head thinking... .what is wrong with this girl. What is wrong with me and why do I deal with this.

Eventually I hit the point where I just didn't want to argue. She wasn't being abusive and she really was trying to make things better and her thoughts and feelings were a bit twisted but they were not affecting me. She was being pretty loving at that point. I just let it go and we slept together.
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2016, 12:27:27 PM »

I can completely empathize with you in this scenario. When perceived or even actual feelings get in the way of reasoning or reality it is very frustrating. My wife often does similar things or makes similar accusations towards me. Why just last night she made a comment that I need to wash of the "girls I do at work" before we go to bed. The part that I want to point out is that if you were to know and understand my personality you would know I am not a player. In fact you would go so far as to say I am so awkward towards women (especially attractive women) that its embarrassing to even watch. In her mind I am this suave guy that get girls to do what ever I want. You do have 1 thing going for you that I have not been introduced to. Your girlfriend apologized. Albeit not maybe completely for the actual infraction but it was an apology and I have never gotten one of those.

If I may I would like to maybe point out 1 flaw I noticed. I suffer from the very same flaw. I think the vast majority of us on here do. Maybe a flaw is not the right word for it now that I think of it. pwBPD have an almost super human ability to push us and get their way. That is they can stand in the battle of the words or argument for an eternity while we eventually cave or see it for what it is... .a waste of time. They don't back down and we submit. That is my weakness. I submit in the end and she claims victory for that battle over my emotional well being.

One night its all about putting a phone in your pocket then next it could be any other ridiculous thing you will never see coming.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2016, 12:46:42 PM »

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That is they can stand in the battle of the words or argument for an eternity while we eventually cave or see it for what it is... .a waste of time. They don't back down and we submit. That is my weakness. I submit in the end and she claims victory for that battle over my emotional well being.

This is true but is there any other option? I don't consider what I did caving in. I did not give in and say she is right. I just chose to not accept her reality and just go to sleep haha.
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2016, 01:45:10 PM »


Yep... .there are tons of other options.  You did "cave in"... .sort of.  Basically if you "concede your point", it is the same as caving.

Why argue about it at all?

A couple options... .

1.  Say "oh... ."

If you want to be firm about it.

2.  "Next time please wait until I ask for advice or opinion... "  No more talking about it. 

If you want to validate.

Ask what she is feeling... .see if there is something valid to validate.  Do not agree that you were looking... .don't discuss that at all.

Best course of action.  When a strange person comes up.  Look her in face, stick out your hand and say "Hi... my name is (xyz), this is my girlfriend (abc)... ."

Just be 100% normal.  Let the pwBPD sort out their feelings afterwords... .

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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2016, 02:42:00 PM »

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What is wrong with me and why do I deal with this.

I think you answered your question in a way.

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She was being pretty loving at that point. I just let it go and we slept together.

There you go.

Look up the abuse cycle.  She went through the whole thing in one night, and so did you.  The part at the end where she was love bombing you, that's why you deal with it.  The whole "reconciliation" phase of the cycle - it's addicting.  You know when she has an angry burst like that, what comes next is the "reconciliation".  I used to constantly think "she'll get over it" and she would, and then we'd have great make sex.

Heck, even after the real breakup, before we moved to separate homes, we'd had a few bouts of hate sex, so we were still going through tension building ===> explosion ===> a weird form of reconciliation with the hate sex even though neither of us intended to take up the relationship again ===> calm, in a weird I'm still living with my ex- kind of fashion.

It didn't stop until we weren't under the same roof anymore.

Once you are hooked into the cycle, it is very hard to step out.  Honestly, it really takes going NC.
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