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« on: January 30, 2017, 12:19:57 AM »

Where to begin? Women of my dreams. I am her knight in shining armor. Married almost 8 years. Son that is 7. I have been verbally beat down . She called me pathetic because I was verbalizing worry over my sisters cancer. Told me she would no longer go to my parents because my mom and sister looked at her oddly. She was delusional and paranoid. Everyone hates her and is against her.

October of last year took her rings off and said we were only legally married. This after she was screaming at son in a restaurant because he told her that he wouldn't put on his jacket until I told him to. Called me garbage and my family garbage in ab20 minute tirade that finally stopped when Inbroyght up her drinking. Son is witnessing all this!

Found my texts to my sister communicating about her my wife's alcoholism. Threatened to kill herself. Berating me in front of child. Alcohol abuser. When she found out I was communicating with sister she started to attend AA

Tiresome to recall all the cuts. We are divorcing and she wants primary parenting responsibility. I loathe her but know I need to find a way to function with her to parent our son.  How do you forgive and move on when the bod alcoholic won't acknowledge that she has ever done anything to me or that her behavior has been ridiculous.
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2017, 05:22:53 AM »

Hi JohnAndrews   and welcome!

These relationships are difficult. We think the relationship is one thing, then our impression of it changes into something quite different. Several of us here have been verbally beat down too.

It's quite common for many people to hate the pwBPD. Even for many to be against this person.

I know of at least one story where the pwBPD removes their ring(s). To be verbally abused can be belittling and make us feel very indignant. Not many people can last in a relationship that involves continual abuse.

I think you're doing the right thing by finding out a good way to function with her when a son is involved. Especially one that is 7-years-old.

I suggest you start with understanding what it means to be parent when your partner has BPD.
https://bpdfamily.com/message_board/index.php?topic=182254.msg1331289#msg1331289
There is also a discussion of what it means for a child when the mother has BPD.

I look forward to hearing more of your story.  Smiling (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2017, 07:13:55 AM »

So I guess the ring stories aren't all that rare... .
Rings... .About three months before our separation my ex started locking herself in son's bedroom and sleeping with him.  A little over a month later I noticed she wasn't wearing her engagement or wedding rings, another ring was on her finger.  About that time she invited a friend over to stay the night and her guest got son's room.  That night son slept in the bed with me and she slept on his old 5 foot crib mattress on the floor.  Anyway, at one point I motioned to the guest to look at her finger.  It might have been a day or two later she told me she lost her rings (did guest tell her?), she took them off and probably vacuumed them.  Hmm, she never searched?  When I changed out the bag, I put it in the garage.  It sat there for days, maybe a week or longer.  One sunny day while she was gone, I sat out on the sidewalk and tore the bag open.  She came home while I was digging around.  No rings.  Within a day or two she exclaimed she found them in another room, son must have walked off with them.
I never quite believed that.

I recall too the two times before we separated when I called CPS to report her ranting and raging and my concern for my preschooler.  The lady asked, "Is she raging at him?"  I replied, "No, but he's right there, cringing and trying to hide."  She replied, "Call back when she's raging at him."   I believe it was the second call where another lady said divorce was the option, her own mother had to divorce.  My conclusion was that some courts and agencies don't necessarily see conflict in itself as actionable, in my area it was whether it was directed at the children.

She wants primary parenting responsibility.  So what?  Don't you want primary parenting responsibility too?  Duh!  It's okay not to give in to demands, pressuring and guilting.  In such an impasse you will likely need a Custody Evaluator to report to the court his or her experienced and perceptive conclusions and recommendations from the psych tests and in depth sessions.  Just make sure you get a very experienced, very perceptive and very recommended evaluator, one who has a reputation for making sound and unbiased reports.

Sadly, fathers often have an uphill struggle (reference: Sisyphus) to get a halfway decent order from court.  So while you of course should not be aggressive, you also can't be passive or accommodating or "too fair" when in those scenarios.  Your stance ought to be focused on what is best for yourself and your children.  Operative phrases are assertive, using time tested strategies, smart like a fox, avoiding the sabotaging FOG*, etc.

FOG  = Fear, Obligation, Guilt
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2017, 12:36:36 PM »

Hi John Andrews,  

Welcome

I'd like to join the others and welcome you to  bpdfamily. I completely understand the confusion with your STBXw's behaviors. Did she have a lot of demands in your marriage and what happened when you thought you fulfilled her demands? Conflict is not necessarily over when the marriage is over. I'd like to echo Foreverdad, shift the focus off of what STBXw wants and focus on what you and S7 need.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2017, 06:34:56 PM »

Prepare. Start recording her tirades. It might not be allowed in court but it would help with a custody evaluation. It also may help if she calls the police accusing you of assault. I wasn't recording and was arrested and jailed for two weeks. I now have a small audio recorder and a video camera with me whenever ex will be nearby. (doc appointments, pick up at her residence,school meetings,etc).
I used to try to figure it out. I got headaches so I eventually stopped. The headaches went away.
I used to try to co parent and never achieved anything positive for our boys. I stopped and went to parallel parenting. Eventually I saw an improvement in me and our boys.
It's a process and emotionally difficult in the beginning. It took me about three years after she ran away that I started to really emotionally detach. That was the key for me. It happened because I found a therapist (after trying several) that I clicked with. This site helped a lot to help me see I am not the only one dealing with something like this. I stayed focused on our boys needs and we, the boys and I,  became much closer than I believe would have happened if we, ex and I, stayed together. I couldn't imagine it back then but it is better now.
It was extremely confusing for me in the beginning. I have come to accept the way things are and I do what I think is best for our kids.
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