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Corey_lasvegas
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Who in your life has "personality" issues: Romantic partner
Relationship status: Married , long distance
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« on: November 16, 2024, 09:22:10 AM »

Man …..where to begin .
My wife and I met 14 years ago while I was touring through Canada . We were friends from afar for 10 years then 3.5 years ago we began dating and were married may 1st of this year . She lives in Canada and I’m in the USA awaiting my permanent residency and work permits to move to Canada . My wife has been crystal clear about her mental health issues since day 1 and tries to manage them the best she can . She was an exotic dancer for 10 years as a result of nearly being sex trafficked and has suffered many near assaults and some assaults that ended horrifically.

She struggles with her depression , BPD , anxiety , asthma and various health issues ( asthma and a severely injured knee as a result of her former profession) but tries exceedingly hard . She recently was granted government aid for these issues and accepted a part time job at a nearby cannabis dispensary (1 mile from our house in Canada ).

Our troubles began in August after my previous roommates stole my identity through an old work required Facebook profile .  ( both with severe alcohol and drug issues , DUI’s , assault charges , child endangerment charges , dishonorable discharge from the military etc )( all of which I was unaware of until moving in , and subsequently I moved out and cut contact with them , as I do not drink , party etc . I lead a very regimented and clean life ). They began messaging a woman in my wife’s area and others , asking for money etc . Upon discovery of the issues I took appropriate and swift legal measures ( filing stalking charges , protection orders etc ) but my wife’s psyche has never fully recovered . In conjunction her ex boyfriend ( extremely abusive both mentally and emotionally ) attempted to contact her via his developmentally disabled brother to obtain permission to contact her . She ( thankfully ) refused and blocked them on social media . She worried over telling me for days , to the point she was tearing out her toe nails . We have been working through it on my monthly visits as I worked to obtain the necessary means to immigrate . Then last month tragedy struck again ….one of two individuals who drugged ,and assaulted her at age 15 attempted to contact her via Facebook acting as if nothing had happened . This individual was in his 20s when my wife was 15 . He and his accomplice drugged her , both sexually assaulted her ( apparently in view of 4 other individuals ) and filmed/photographed the entire thing . Then cut her hair and shaved her eyebrows off . They then began circulating the videos/pictures to the point my wife had to drop out of high school and attempted suicide .

I and others have encouraged her to file charges ( there is no statute of limitations on sexual assault or pedophilia/circulating and possessing child pornography ) , but she shuts down at the mention of it .

Since this , she has been either extremely loving and in constant contact or very distant and cold . 4 weeks ago she had a severe BPD split and attempted to overdose on her meds .

I’m just at a loss . I want to help my wife , but don’t know how and none of the materials I’ve found ( YouTube channels , “ stop walking on eggshells “ book , therapists etc ) are helping .

I could really use an experienced voice to help . I’m truly lost and honestly wondering if I’m giving up my successful life in the US for a woman who’s going to ultimately leave or find someone nearer to her while I wait . She’s surrounded by absolute alcoholic , lay about , addict losers and repeatedly tells me “ they just had a hard go of it “. I don’t believe this . Drug and alcohol abuse was their choice , no one forced them )

Please . Anyone . Some advice ?
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2024, 04:50:14 PM »

Hi and Welcome, glad you found us -- there's been a lot of stress packed into your life and relationship so far. Long distance is never easy, and if BPD is in play, that doesn't make it easier.

Am I assuming correctly that when you and your W are in touch/talking right now, it's mostly remotely (texting, Zoom, skype, facetime, etc)?

her ex boyfriend ( extremely abusive both mentally and emotionally ) attempted to contact her via his developmentally disabled brother to obtain permission to contact her . She ( thankfully ) refused and blocked them on social media . She worried over telling me for days , to the point she was tearing out her toe nails . We have been working through it on my monthly visits as I worked to obtain the necessary means to immigrate .

Tell me more about what you both are working through and how that looks. Are you working through what you both feel/think about both situations (your ID theft, her experience with her ex reaching out)? Are there trust issues? When you mention that she worried about telling you about the ex reaching out, what was it she was worried about? How do you respond when she expresses how she feels?

I and others have encouraged her to file charges ( there is no statute of limitations on sexual assault or pedophilia/circulating and possessing child pornography ) , but she shuts down at the mention of it .

That actually makes a ton of sense to me. She may be too raw/wounded to activate to do what others see as sensible/rational. It might be too soon for her. As counterintuitive as it sounds, I might stop trying to "encourage" her in that area.

pwBPD struggle from all three of the following:
-high emotional sensitivity (things you and I wouldn't notice or take personally, she does)
-high emotional reactivity (we might be annoyed at getting cut off in traffic, she might rage/weep)
-long return to emotional baseline (we might get over getting cut off in 30 minutes; it might take her days)

It wouldn't surprise me if she hasn't returned to an emotional baseline yet, so that means she really isn't in a place to be making wise, balanced decisions. If she's pulling away, that might be a low-skill attempt to get the space/time she needs to return to baseline. Hard to say for sure -- but possible.

Since this , she has been either extremely loving and in constant contact or very distant and cold . 4 weeks ago she had a severe BPD split and attempted to overdose on her meds .

I’m just at a loss . I want to help my wife , but don’t know how and none of the materials I’ve found ( YouTube channels , “ stop walking on eggshells “ book , therapists etc ) are helping .

What happened after the attempted OD?

A lot of effective approaches to BPD are often really unintuitive and take time and practice. Plus, it sounds like BPD isn't the only thing going on with your W, either. BPD can be comorbid (co-occurring) with many, many other issues: trauma, ADHD, bipolar, OCD, depression... like you said, she's also coping with anxiety and health issues. And, each pwBPD is a unique individual -- what works for "most" pwBPD might not be effective in your relationship not because BPD tools/skills aren't effective, but because your W is a unique person and you two have a unique dynamic. It's a hard but freeing lesson to learn here: there are no magic fixes or perfect phrases, just a lot of learning about what human beings all want.

My gut feeling is that a good place to start is really -- really -- learning about what true emotional validation is and isn't, and how not to be invalidating. If you could only click one link here, make it that one. Everybody wants to be understood and pwBPD are no different, just more sensitive.

After you check out that link, let us know what stood out to you, or what seemed "not to work" in your situation. Talk us through real dialogs, and we can help find areas that worked and areas to change.

I could really use an experienced voice to help . I’m truly lost and honestly wondering if I’m giving up my successful life in the US for a woman who’s going to ultimately leave or find someone nearer to her while I wait . She’s surrounded by absolute alcoholic , lay about , addict losers and repeatedly tells me “ they just had a hard go of it “. I don’t believe this . Drug and alcohol abuse was their choice , no one forced them )

What do you say when she says "they just had a hard go of it"?

To me, that 110% reads as a validation opportunity.

Hard stuff -- but it is possible to really, really, really improve at validation, which builds connection and trust and preserves relationships. (I got to practice validating our 16 year old who... tattooed herself. That was black belt stuff that I definitely could not have done at the start of my validation journey). My relationships are stabler when I stop invalidating and start hearing the real feelings behind the wild things people tell me. I bet we can find a validation (connection) opportunity for you as well.

Fill us in on more of your story, whenever works best for you --

kells76
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