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MiloKay26
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« on: January 23, 2025, 07:45:39 PM »

Hello, I'm a new member. This is my first post. I found this group after I bought the book "Stop Walking On Eggshells". I'm looking for thoughts regarding my relationship with my friend and past partner. I'm using "they/them" for privacy concerns.
I'm struggling! We were in a brief relationship last year. At the time I was unaware of their alcohol abuse and their personality disorder issues. I'm unaware of any diagnosis they may have for their mental health issues from a professional. We have recently reconnected and are working on becoming friends again. I'm very confused and looking for insight and understanding. I do care about them a lot. I'm not sure what the future holds for me and my friend.
I tried to discourage their advances towards me when we first started dating a year ago. It felt like they were infatuated with me. We were together for a brief time, things happened so fast. It was extremely confusing and toxic to me. They would often disappear for days at a time, no texts etc. They were very demanding and controlling. They would often get very upset with me if I didn't answer their texts immediately, even though I may be working, or driving. I had to watch my words very closely. We dated briefly, and were intimate. I was so confused, I had thought they wanted to only be a friend, not an intimate partner.
After a few weeks I decided to end the relationship because I had no understanding of why they behaved in an avoidant, angry, controlling manner. I grew up in an alcoholic dysfunctional family. I felt there was something wrong with them, I didn't know what it could be, but it felt familiar to me. In addition I became aware that they had a serious drinking problem.They became angry, and verbally and emotionally abusive towards me when I told them I was ending our relationship.
This past year I began seeing a therapist for my CPTSD and this relationship. My therapist told me after much discussion that they most likely have a personality disorder, possibly BPD or Narcissistic disorder. I know that they have several traits which appear to me as either BPD, or ASPD, or similar. I have no idea, I'm so confused. I've been reading a lot on personality disorders and searching on the internet. They have little disregard for their personal safety. They have shown little if any empathy or concerns of my own medical and my CPTSD issues. They have lied to me on several occassions regarding there employment(they are not employed). They are very secretive, evasive or avoidant on many topics I would like to discuss. They often exagerate there status and importance in life and with other people. I often want to ask them a question about important issues but I know they will get angry with me or lie to me. When we are together they often are answering texts and playing games on their cell phone rather than engaging with me. I'm trying to understand what is involved with them and their issues. They have changed somewhat for the better since last year. They are working under the table a few hours a week for some income. They are trying to discuss things more with me than in the past. They are more productive in daytime hours. They are not drinking as much, but they do still occasionaly drink. They do not have driving privileges due to past DUI's. My therapist asked me this week "why are you in trying to restart this relationship"? I told my therapist I was unsure but felt I wanted to see if we could try again to become friends and maybe partners. I now have some understanding of their issues. My therapist told me I need to to take care of myself first. I said I want to try again to have a relationship with them. I'm a very kind and forgiving person. I do know that I feel love towards my friend. I have more understanding and awareness now of my part in the past with them. I joined a support group for Adult Children of Alcoholics and Dysfunctional families. I'm learning a lot about my own dysfunctional behavior and how it affected my friend and our past relationship. I know that I played a part in the break due to my own issues as well as their issues. I know that if my friend does have a personality disorder, along with an alcohol problem It will be very difficult and trying to be in a relationship with them. I accept the fact that this may not end well. This is all very confusing to me. I would appreciate feedback or thoughts that may be helpful for me to understand this friend of mine. Thank you 
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MiloKay26
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2025, 08:25:19 PM »

Hello, I'm a new member. This is my first post. I found this group after I bought the book "Stop Walking On Eggshells". I'm looking for thoughts regarding my relationship with my friend and past partner. I'm using "they/them" for privacy concerns.
I'm struggling! We were in a brief relationship last year. At the time I was unaware of their alcohol abuse and their personality disorder issues. I'm unaware of any diagnosis they may have for their mental health issues from a professional. We have recently reconnected and are working on becoming friends again. I'm very confused and looking for insight and understanding. I do care about them a lot. I'm not sure what the future holds for me and my friend.
I tried to discourage their advances towards me when we first started dating a year ago. It felt like they were infatuated with me. We were together for a brief time, things happened so fast. It was extremely confusing and toxic to me. They would often disappear for days at a time, no texts etc. They were very demanding and controlling. They would often get very upset with me if I didn't answer their texts immediately, even though I may be working, or driving. I had to watch my words very closely. We dated briefly, and were intimate. I was so confused, I had thought they wanted to only be a friend, not an intimate partner.
After a few weeks I decided to end the relationship because I had no understanding of why they behaved in an avoidant, angry, controlling manner. I grew up in an alcoholic dysfunctional family. I felt there was something wrong with them, I didn't know what it could be, but it felt familiar to me. In addition I became aware that they had a serious drinking problem.They became angry, and verbally and emotionally abusive towards me when I told them I was ending our relationship.
This past year I began seeing a therapist for my CPTSD and this relationship. My therapist told me after much discussion that they most likely have a personality disorder, possibly BPD or Narcissistic disorder. I know that they have several traits which appear to me as either BPD, or ASPD, or similar. I have no idea, I'm so confused. I've been reading a lot on personality disorders and searching on the internet. They have little disregard for their personal safety. They have shown little if any empathy or concerns of my own medical and my CPTSD issues. They have lied to me on several occassions regarding there employment(they are not employed). They are very secretive, evasive or avoidant on many topics I would like to discuss. They often exagerate there status and importance in life and with other people. I often want to ask them a question about important issues but I know they will get angry with me or lie to me. When we are together they often are answering texts and playing games on their cell phone rather than engaging with me. I'm trying to understand what is involved with them and their issues. They have changed somewhat for the better since last year. They are working under the table a few hours a week for some income. They are trying to discuss things more with me than in the past. They are more productive in daytime hours. They are not drinking as much, but they do still occasionaly drink. They do not have driving privileges due to past DUI's. My therapist asked me this week "why are you trying to restart this relationship"? I told my therapist I was unsure but felt I wanted to see if we could try again to become friends and maybe partners. I now have some understanding of their issues. My therapist told me I need to to take care of myself first. I said I want to try again to have a relationship with them. I'm a very kind and forgiving person. I do know that I feel love towards my friend. I have more understanding and awareness now of my part in the past with them. I joined a support group for Adult Children of Alcoholics and Dysfunctional families. I'm learning a lot about my own dysfunctional behavior and how it affected my friend and our past relationship. I know that I played a part in the break due to my own issues as well as their issues. I know that if my friend does have a personality disorder, along with an alcohol problem It will be very difficult and trying to be in a relationship with them. I accept the fact that this may not end well. This is all very confusing to me. I would appreciate feedback or thoughts that may be helpful for me to understand this friend of mine. Thank you 
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2025, 09:25:57 AM »

Hi MiloKay26 and a warm Welcome

A lot of us have had a similar journey to you -- there's a person in our life with confusing behavior, we look for resources and understanding and find books like Stop Walking on Eggshells, we get pointed to the message boards here, and we find a community of others who have also been confused and started learning more about PDs (personality disorders). I think for me, I might have searched online for something like "entitled mothers" (my husband's kids' mom has many BPD type traits) and after a few twists and turns, ended up here.

Many PDs share similar features, such as a distorted sense of self (exaggerated/inflated in NPD, weak/absent in BPD), lack of insight into impact of behaviors on relationships, blaming, emotional neediness, etc. Sometimes it matters what PD it is, and sometimes it really doesn't.

Labels/diagnoses can have benefits and drawbacks: a label can help guide our learning so that we aren't spread so thin in trying to understand behaviors, a label can also help us not feel so alone and find community, and a label can focus our efforts onto what's effective for interacting with a PD (versus general relationship advice). Some persons with PDs find relief when given an official diagnosis from a professional (though not all do).

Labels can have downsides, too -- we can get caught up in "I need to know exactly what it is" instead of knowing that whatever is going on, whether diagnosable or not, it's the behaviors/traits that are the issue, not the label, and so we are empowered to build new effective skills based on behaviors, no matter what is going on with the other person. Some pwPDs (persons with PDs) find a label or diagnosis stigmatizing, especially when told by a loved one versus a professional.

While it's hard to say exactly what your ex/partner was dealing with, what's true is that those traits and behaviors had a big impact on you.

To be in a relationship (of any kind -- friend, family member, romantic partner, even coworker) with a pwBPD (person with BPD) and to have it be effective and as healthy as is possible, takes a great deal of work... on our end. We need to work on our own sense of self, our own limitations, values, and boundaries, and our own black-belt level communication skills, in order to keep it healthy.

It's good to hear you have a therapist supporting you right now. Your T sounds pretty wise about PDs -- so often, when pwBPD are in our life, we find ourselves turning the spotlight on them: what are they doing, what are they thinking, how can I get them to heal, how can I get them to change, how can I support and do things for them.

The real questions might actually be -- how can I work on myself? What can I focus on in my own life, to be as healthy as possible, so that when I'm relating to my pwBPD, I don't lose myself in enabling behavior? How can I improve my communication so that I can be clear and compassionate without being rigid or passive? What has happened in my life that might draw me towards wanting to "help" or "save" or "rescue" or "not abandon" my pwBPD?

Relationships with pwBPD aren't impossible, though they will likely look and feel different from "generally normal" relationships.

I think you're doing good work with your T to understand what you'd want out of a friendship or relationship with your pwPD.

Maybe you can look at those questions about yourself, and learn more about PDs here, for a bit, and see what insight those paths give you, as you figure out how to make wise decisions about this relationship. If there's no rush or deadline, gifting yourself time to think, learn, and grow, could bring you some clarity in this confusing situation.

We'll be here for you along the way...

kells76
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