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Larmoyant
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« on: February 28, 2017, 08:17:37 PM »

After an 11 month break-up where we both had trouble letting go I finally decided to go full no contact. It’s been 10 weeks now, but he still fills my thoughts most days. The nightmare of it all leading to so much loss, sadness, the loss of hope and love that I'd felt.

Adele came to town this week and I suspected he would try to make contact. He knows how much I like her and had offered to sell me some tickets a few months ago. I couldn’t afford to buy them from him then. Still couldn’t. He's phoned me 5 times over the past 10 days. That is, I had five calls that came up ‘private’, but after me saying “hello” he immediately put the phone down. A couple of times he paused. I 'know' it was him. In between he sent me a message (in spam file )asking for money for a holiday we went on two years ago. An oft-used excuse to get in touch. I didn’t respond. Too scared, too exhausted.

The concert has come and gone and with it the feeling of finality. It’s best because he destroyed my life and I’m still having trouble with chronic depression, but at the same time it just feels so sad. Can't help wondering what he wanted. Was he feeling guilty? Was he just checking the old 'attachment'? Was he feeling sad?

Who knows? All I know is it's time to put it all behind me, but it's still so difficult.
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2017, 08:27:54 PM »

I don't have any words of wisdom. I wanted to offer you a hug of support. 

My ex has been out of the house for a year now. I can't go NC because of the kids. I still have moments of overwhelming sadness. I wonder when the sad moments will stop sneaking up on me and biting me in the butt.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2017, 08:32:13 PM »

Hey, Larmoyant. Sending much love and strength to you. 

I went NC almost immediately after my breakup, and at first it was rough. It was so strange to suddenly not talk to someone and share my life with someone whom I had done this with every single day for years. I so desperately still wanted to look at his social media, see what he was doing, if he was making references to me, all of that stuff. I still to this day, over six months later, occasionally wonder if he regrets anything. If he still thinks of me and our time together and if he secretly still wants to talk to me... .even though the last thing I ever want to do is talk to him.

It's so sad but so worth it to chug and chug towards closing the door and moving on. Embrace the wonderful things you can experience with your emotional freedom and healing! Remind yourself whenever you can of why NC is necessary and why you'll be so much better with NC whatsoever.
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2017, 12:09:18 PM »

Hey Larm, My suggestion: acknowledge the sad feelings, which you are doing, and allow them to pass through you, as if you are a lightening rod and the sadness is the electricity passing through you into the ground.  LJ
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2017, 12:26:48 PM »

"The concert has come and gone and with it the feeling of finality. It’s best because he destroyed my life and I’m still having trouble with chronic depression, but at the same time it just feels so sad. Can't help wondering what he wanted. Was he feeling guilty? Was he just checking the old 'attachment'? Was he feeling sad?

Who knows? All I know is it's time to put it all behind me, but it's still so difficult."


He may have been attempting to charm you back in. They do this is some attempts to recycle you back in. I'd remain NC, they don't feel guilty they do whatever they want to have their needs met.  He probably tried to reconnect with other women too in a moment of loneliness.
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2017, 12:41:50 PM »

Hi, Larmoyant,

So sorry to hear that he can still reach out and touch your emotions after all this time has passed.  It seems to me that the concert tickets were a blatant attempt to test the proverbial waters for a recycle, and I admire your strength in not engaging!  Sadness and exhaustion are certainly to be expected - that's so much of what we are left with - but kudos to you!  Look at how you would have reacted months ago - you might have "fallen for it" or at the very least would have been rattled and upset for days.  You have gained so much perspective in the intervening months and your emotions can NOT be toyed with like this!  I like Lucky Jim's "lightning rod" analogy - letting it pass through without major effect or lasting affect... .you're an inspiration to those of us who are still far more muddled.  Good for you!
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2017, 04:41:15 PM »

Hello Lar my lovely
Sorry I have not been around for a while, I needed a break from it all but it didn't mean I haven't thought about you a lot. 10 weeks NC, so very proud of you. Remember when neither of us could manage 10 hours?   I too have times of terrible sadness, for the loss of what I had, what I thought I had and what I could have had. Sometimes I am incredibly lonely but I think I was lonelier when I was with him. The one thing I have gained though is peace, I treasure the peace. You have done so well sweetheart, really really well.
Lots of ❤️ Your friend
Sadly xx
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2017, 01:05:17 AM »

Thank you so much for the hugs and support. Part of my problem is that my Mum isn’t well and I’m having to be the strong one when I don’t feel strong. I’m pretending that I’m ok when I’m not.

I wanted someone to reach out to for support and, for a 'very brief' moment, when he rang, I was hoping he was there. That’s just my old emotions talking. I’m no longer kidding myself. He’s not there and he never was. He may have said the right words now and then, but the actions never matched.

Nowadays reality quickly comes to my rescue. I look back and can see the ‘splitting’. How his moods changed as he rapidly went from loving to hating me, leading to terrible devaluation and abuse. How his fear of abandonment/engulfment led to me being tossed around like a rag-doll.

He, imo, is high on the BPD spectrum, with a little NPD/ASP thrown in, and I’m not equipped to cope with all of that. The sense of entitlement he displayed, the self-grandiosity, the drunk driving, stealing, cheating, raging, yet I also remember how fragile he seemed sometimes. His softening towards me, his vulnerability and desperation when he wanted me back. That makes my heart break for him and led to many recycles between us. Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde. It’s hard reconciling the two and I’m not sure I can.

Like all of us he is a mixture of the ‘good’ and ‘bad’, positive and negative, except we sort of balance it out. He lives in extremes depending on his mood. No middle ground, no sense of stability, or consistency. I cannot cope with such extremes. I’m glad he didn’t speak to me.

The concert was a significant moment for me. I’m not sure why or how, but I knew he’d make contact around this time. Deep down I was hoping he’d make a gesture, show me he cared, but he didn’t. The very last vestiges of all my hopes and dreams, but he just listened to my voice and went away. I don’t know what it means, but I going to get on with detaching. It’s a long, hard road, but there really is no going back.

Vortex, I really needed that hug thank you. I’m following your story and the strength you are showing is truly inspiring. 

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.“Embrace the wonderful things you can experience with your emotional freedom and healing! Remind yourself whenever you can of why NC is necessary and why you'll be so much better with NC whatsoever.”
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Great advice, thank you    and for anyone reading this and considering NC. I’d say try it if you can or at least as LC as possible. It gives you space away from the chaos and doesn’t have to be forever if you don’t want it to be, but it will give you the time to get stronger and then perhaps make the decision whether or not you could cope with borderline behaviours.  For 11 months post break-up I allowed my ex’s BPD symptoms to continue to play out causing additional pain, no doubt to both of us. I’m recovering much faster now that I’ve been 10 weeks fully NC. His recent contact is a little set back, showing I still have a way to go, but I've recovered much more quickly and back on track. 

Lucky Jim, this helped a great deal and thanks for the reminder these are just feelings. I’m visualising them passing right through me and it’s helping.  

Mar356,  how true this is. I also have no doubt that other women are being used just as I was. I needed the reminder about him living to meet his own needs, thank you.

Chillamom,
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.Look at how you would have reacted months ago - you might have "fallen for it" or at the very least would have been rattled and upset for days. 
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This is so true and a great reminder. Thank you.  . I’ve just realised that my heart rate didn’t increase, I didn’t feel nauseous and although a little anxiety remains I am so much more peaceful these days.

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. It seems to me that the concert tickets were a blatant attempt to test the proverbial waters for a recycle, and I admire your strength in not engaging!


Confession I did engage a little  Smiling (click to insert in post). I suspected it was him after the first ‘private’ call so when he called again, I purposefully put on my most cheerful greeting. As if everything was wonderful in my world. I was hoping that he’d get the message that he hadn’t completely broken me. Yet I still feel broken. I’m battling depression and sometimes it seems like it’s winning, but he’ll never get to know that. I still have hope that I’ll beat it. I have come a long, long way.

Thank you for the encouragement Chill. Maybe all I need is a little more time. 
 

Sadly, I’m so happy to hear from you dear friend    . I often wonder how you are too and I always imagine wonderful things for you. How are you? Your post brought tears to my eyes remembering how far we’ve come and how incredibly painful those early days were. Thank you for saying you are proud of me. It might not look like it to those close to me, because I’m still very depressed, but I truly have made such a lot of progress. I really am strong. Thank you 








 
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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2017, 02:38:29 AM »

I feel so much for you. You are a woman who loves much, so much. Big hugs your way. You deserve happiness. And respect.
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2017, 03:40:28 AM »

Lar You are a star (not my finest poetry) but so very true  . You really mustn't worry about people close to you not realising just how well you are doing either love, they don't know how just so very different a relationship with a pwBPD is. I am sure when your darkness and depression lift permanently they will just be happy for you, meanwhile, we here do understand, it makes every positive step however small a joy to be celebrated  .
I am so sorry about your mum, been there too, it's so very hard but again I say, you are so very much stronger. Onward and upwards Lar MOT ( marching on together) 
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2017, 04:32:32 PM »

NC is so hard but also so necessary.

After I was treated so badly in the last year of a ten year relationship/marriage, after my ex left me NC was the only thing I could do to restore something in my heart, in my life, after been treated with such disrespect for a year, silent treatment, complete disregard for my feelings, point blank hurtful comments "you are in denial, move on, I am not in love with you anymore, you are not my lover" etc... .I had to do NC, I had no choice. My ex wanted me as a friend, I know that, but I couldn't do that and also didn't want to do that, as my T asked, "what is in it for you?" Well nothing really, more hurtful times... .

I have been in NC for more then nine weeks now, it is hard, my ex is my daily thoughts. And she has started to reach out. Random texts and emails. "I miss so much, I love you, can we fix things? I miss you crazily" etc... .

I actually don't know what those comments mean, because I tried and tried to repair our marriage for an entire year! And my ex was adamant then that we had to move on! And our marriage suffered and in my mind it was ruined, for ever.
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