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GingerBadger

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« on: September 28, 2022, 03:43:34 PM »

I don’t even know how to begin, I feel my story is allege and complex but also undeserving of the amount of pain I feel compared to others.  I just known I need help and can’t on my own anymore.

To try and cliff note this, 3 years ago I started dating a guy who’s we know now that has BPD (which I figured out) he followed all the traits then but I wasn’t aware, I heard his reasons for not being able to commit or deal with others emotions and I didn’t walk away…. 3 years later we’ve been friends, situationship like. We are so very close and do everything together, well beyond average friends. We are comfortable together. But he never could Commit and I was always understanding of this due to my own issues with connection and such. I just wanted to be a priority to him and be the one that was the most important.
This is so hard to explain without sounding pathetic and the whole back story. But long story short I dealt with substance abuse and so just hanger from him. I was there for him ans helped him through it all, well beyond what any average friend would. He admitted he wouldn’t date me
Because he was so scared to losing me and when he thought about committing Suicide he left a note to me and his family and commented that he didn’t know what love is but I was the closest thing to it…. Ive helped him and been there for him, I’m thankful for his family and people in his life that have been so  appreciative kind caring and loving towards me, but it is just so hard because he is all the things that they discuss with the borderline with putting on this pedestal breaking him down he’s the best arguer in the world manipulator and he makes me question and doubt myself all the time and it’s just a roller coaster with him and I wanted to leave so many times but I don’t know why it’s so hard why is this one so awful. I know dating him is a terrible idea but I get so upset when he gets his hyper focus on another random person and replaces me almost. We do just work so well together and enjoy everything and we were finally doing better after a really difficult stent of his last rehab but that is when I helped him figure out the borderline personality disorder and I realize I didn’t have the skills to be able to deal with him and now I understand why he acted a lot the way he did.
Course when things are going better it happens again and he start replacing me with another female, I have been learning to speak up and say how I feel because it’s some thing I avoided for so long with him and he started pushing me away again and then put all the blame on the fact is because we should’ve never had sex is private relationship and spending that much time together and he just always wants to turn it back to this like level of friendship that we never had never work and I don’t think I could ever be because even without the sex of that stuff it’s just the fact that he never prioritizes me never made me feel special. And he proves it over and over and over again and why can I walk away easily. He’s made me question myself and reality so many times. He says how much he cares about me only one it has become so bad he knows he’s about to lose me why can’t you just think about me in the first place why can’t he make the decisions to choose me I know I keep coming back I know I’ve made the issues I know I didn’t have the strong boundaries but I also had that fear of every time I finally put a boundary up and walked away something horrific would happen whether him ending up in jail or something else. I know this looks like it’s such an obvious answer but this is the hardest one I’ve ever dealt with. He’s finally on the  right track and sobber and in therapy..
But I’m struggling from past trauma that we’ve gone through and things that happened I spent so much time focusing on him and helping him that I realized I’m not OK and trying to go to him he just didn’t wanna deal with it and then basically said this is why we should just be friends and I just think it’s unfair that I can be there so much for him emotionally and he can’t even handle giving me a hug when I need it or hearing what I actually need.
It’s like I got run over by him in a car we built and fixed together  and he’s driving off with a new “person” after I helped him fix the car for him to have fun with , and I’ve been left in the road to try and crawl to safety while bleeding out alone. I’m aware how
PLEASE READe that sounds and what I need and why he does it, but it doesn’t make that crawl any better, or that you still hope he’s come back and just put a hand out for you
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2022, 01:26:52 AM »

I don’t even know how to begin, I feel my story is allege and complex but also undeserving of the amount of pain I feel compared to others.  I just known I need help and can’t on my own anymore.

To try and cliff note this, 3 years ago I started dating a guy who’s we know now that has BPD (which I figured out) he followed all the traits then but I wasn’t aware, I heard his reasons for not being able to commit or deal with others emotions and I didn’t walk away…. 3 years later we’ve been friends, situationship like. We are so very close and do everything together, well beyond average friends. We are comfortable together. But he never could Commit and I was always understanding of this due to my own issues with connection and such. I just wanted to be a priority to him and be the one that was the most important.
This is so hard to explain without sounding pathetic and the whole back story. But long story short I dealt with substance abuse and so just hanger from him. I was there for him ans helped him through it all, well beyond what any average friend would. He admitted he wouldn’t date me
Because he was so scared to losing me and when he thought about committing Suicide he left a note to me and his family and commented that he didn’t know what love is but I was the closest thing to it…. Ive helped him and been there for him, I’m thankful for his family and people in his life that have been so  appreciative kind caring and loving towards me, but it is just so hard because he is all the things that they discuss with the borderline with putting on this pedestal breaking him down he’s the best arguer in the world manipulator and he makes me question and doubt myself all the time and it’s just a roller coaster with him and I wanted to leave so many times but I don’t know why it’s so hard why is this one so awful. I know dating him is a terrible idea but I get so upset when he gets his hyper focus on another random person and replaces me almost. We do just work so well together and enjoy everything and we were finally doing better after a really difficult stent of his last rehab but that is when I helped him figure out the borderline personality disorder and I realize I didn’t have the skills to be able to deal with him and now I understand why he acted a lot the way he did.
Course when things are going better it happens again and he start replacing me with another female, I have been learning to speak up and say how I feel because it’s some thing I avoided for so long with him and he started pushing me away again and then put all the blame on the fact is because we should’ve never had sex is private relationship and spending that much time together and he just always wants to turn it back to this like level of friendship that we never had never work and I don’t think I could ever be because even without the sex of that stuff it’s just the fact that he never prioritizes me never made me feel special. And he proves it over and over and over again and why can I walk away easily. He’s made me question myself and reality so many times. He says how much he cares about me only one it has become so bad he knows he’s about to lose me why can’t you just think about me in the first place why can’t he make the decisions to choose me I know I keep coming back I know I’ve made the issues I know I didn’t have the strong boundaries but I also had that fear of every time I finally put a boundary up and walked away something horrific would happen whether him ending up in jail or something else. I know this looks like it’s such an obvious answer but this is the hardest one I’ve ever dealt with. He’s finally on the  right track and sobber and in therapy..
But I’m struggling from past trauma that we’ve gone through and things that happened I spent so much time focusing on him and helping him that I realized I’m not OK and trying to go to him he just didn’t wanna deal with it and then basically said this is why we should just be friends and I just think it’s unfair that I can be there so much for him emotionally and he can’t even handle giving me a hug when I need it or hearing what I actually need.
It’s like I got run over by him in a car we built and fixed together  and he’s driving off with a new “person” after I helped him fix the car for him to have fun with , and I’ve been left in the road to try and crawl to safety while bleeding out alone. I’m aware how
PLEASE READe that sounds and what I need and why he does it, but it doesn’t make that crawl any better, or that you still hope he’s come back and just put a hand out for you

Hello Ginger. Welcome to the Fam.  Welcome new member (click to insert in post) Happy you found us, but of course sorry for the circumstances that led to you seeking us out. We are paying attention and always listening here. Please feel free to share and vent as much as you need to.

I will check back in on you later, most likely tomorrow when I get a chance. I will have my team check in too.

Cheers and best wishes!

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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2022, 11:41:28 PM »

So Ginger, the hardest thing to deal with sometimes is getting over our own egos and pride. Many people truly think they are equipped to handle someone with BPD and 99.9% of those people are foolish and ignorant because they do not truly grasp the gravity of what they are dealing with.

Even those highly educated and trained in human behavior can be sent into a tailspin dealing with someone who suffers from BPD. But, please keep in mind that the monster is the disorder, not the person.

Please don't so hard on yourself. What you want is not necessarily unrealistic at all. However, what is unrealistic is expecting him to be able to be that person for you who can give you what you want. No one else will fix him or be a better match. Do not fall into that thinking. You will not be replaced, but rather he will just be moving onto another novelty and then act up again and move onto another after that. The process will be rinse, wash, repeat. That is the very nature of the disorder.

So do not take things so personally. I don't say that to be mean or invalidating. On the contrary, your feelings are true and you are hurt, but you are basing your feelings on what you want to happen and your expectations and not the what is. You can change and be dynamic, but unfortunately he will be static and not change. Look at it as him actually caring and doing you a favor.

In truth, I think it is possible that some bpd sufferers show they truly care by doing whatever they can to get you to go your own way because they know they are going to hurt you and that you deserve better than they can provide.

Cheers and best wishes!

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GingerBadger

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What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Friend
Relationship status: Complicated friendship situation
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2022, 03:46:17 PM »

So Ginger, the hardest thing to deal with sometimes is getting over our own egos and pride. Many people truly think they are equipped to handle someone with BPD and 99.9% of those people are foolish and ignorant because they do not truly grasp the gravity of what they are dealing with.

Even those highly educated and trained in human behavior can be sent into a tailspin dealing with someone who suffers from BPD. But, please keep in mind that the monster is the disorder, not the person.

Please don't so hard on yourself. What you want is not necessarily unrealistic at all. However, what is unrealistic is expecting him to be able to be that person for you who can give you what you want. No one else will fix him or be a better match. Do not fall into that thinking. You will not be replaced, but rather he will just be moving onto another novelty and then act up again and move onto another after that. The process will be rinse, wash, repeat. That is the very nature of the disorder.

So do not take things so personally. I don't say that to be mean or invalidating. On the contrary, your feelings are true and you are hurt, but you are basing your feelings on what you want to happen and your expectations and not the what is. You can change and be dynamic, but unfortunately he will be static and not change. Look at it as him actually caring and doing you a favor.

In truth, I think it is possible that some bpd sufferers show they truly care by doing whatever they can to get you to go your own way because they know they are going to hurt you and that you deserve better than they can provide.

Cheers and best wishes!

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Thank you so much for the response. These words help, many I know but it’s really been hard for me to accept.  I think the hardest part is the rollercoaster. I’ve tried to walk away many times, unfortunately in the early days when I did he usually ended up in terrible situation, and I was then one to call and be the savior  for him.  The chaos is where I received the affection and feeling of being loved. I knew so many things were wrong but it was so hard to sort. I wish I’d known about the BPD so I could have had better tools to communicate and see what he was doing. I bought the book, ‘quit walking on eggshells’ and it was so helpful, but I still find myself so confused when I know it’s how he is and caused so much pain yet I can’t let go of this one. I’m thankful I was adamant about pushing his family on the diagnosis,  they only  only focused on the alcohol abuse and anger management, I knew there was something else and he’d never get better when all the did was treat that.. I saw him so broken and through so much. I just wish he’d understand that it took so much from me as well and broke me in the process., I gave so much to him, and yet asked so little. Understanding the disorder is helpful but the pain is still real and I literally don’t know how to recover sometimes .
I don’t know how to end this. Ive tried and always fall back to the hurt he caused and not being able to get over it. He wants just basic friendship but to me that’s once again all he wants and at a level that only benefits him. (He’s missing the qualities of a good friend and just proves over and over that he doesn’t care, but thinks he can pretend it never happened and just try and make up for it, but it’s in the moment I needed more for him)
I’m so hurt from the feeling of being a convenience and never a priority or to be chosen. I know I’m responsible as well for allowing it and never having the boundaries and always being there when he finished a cycle.
But I don’t know the words to say to him, he’ll put it on(master manipulator. Me as “we could have a friendship because you weren’t willing to be just friends,  but it’ll just continue in that cycle of hurt and settling for so little. He never was  held accountable for his actions and it’s to hard for me to alone, and he just pushes away when I do. I just want to be heard and scene and his actions to match his words. I know he never will but how can I say goodbye.

(Note his family means a lot to me and his dogs are literally like my kids now and I will continue to have them a majority of the time so it’s not one where I can just delete him from my life)
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2022, 08:40:59 AM »

So sorry to hear you are going through this.  I have had the same experience.   You are better off going no contact and healing.  I spent almost 40 years with my bpd husband.  It only got harder over time.  More leaving. More criticism.  He did not get better.  I suffered.  Instead of focusing on him work on you so you can have a better life.  Sending you strength
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