The borderline psychopath or psychopathic female with borderline features

[Couscous]

There is evidence that suggests that BPD in females is nothing more than the female manifestation of psychopathy which makes a whole lot of sense to me based on my own experience with several BPD females who were high in Factor 1 psychopathy traits, which is the selfish, callous and remorseless use of others.

Being high in F1 traits helps explain why they are able to drop you like a hot potato after behaving as if you were their soulmate, as well as other egregious behaviors I have seen written about extensively on these boards. It also helps explain why so many are so deeply and negatively impacted by their relationships with these women, even after a brief relationship.

While I would think that BPD is likely a valid diagnosis, I would not be at all surprised if many of the people who come to these boards are in actual fact dealing with a psychopath with borderline features and not a pwBPD.

In particular, the pattern of behavior associated with certain BPD symptoms (e.g., frantic efforts to avoid abandonment, wavering between devaluation and idealization) often necessitates an oscillation between extremes of highly emotional, impulsive, and aggressive reactivity on the one hand, and disengaged, calculating, and emotionally restrictive behavior on the other hand (Linehan, 1993). Our results suggest that this latter, more restrictive extreme likely manifests as F1 behaviors, whereas the former represents the female expression of F2 traits. Moreover, F2 may be a weaker predictor of BPD at lower levels of F1, as being low in F1 implies that one has the capacity for greater empathic responding. Therefore, even if a woman is high on F2 traits (e.g., impulsivity, anger), being low in F1 traits is likely to prevent her from acting upon such urges (i.e., because she is able to recognize the consequences of her actions on others;)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3323706/#!po=65.2778

Edit: Some additional information about the psychopathic female with borderline features: https://neuroinstincts.com/the-psychopathic-female-general-overview-video/

[Amina]

In my experience with BPD I have an ex who definitely exhibited psychopathy, and had 0 empathy.  Others with BPD weave inconsistently in and out of emotional empathy, but lack cognitive empathy (unless they are NPD, and have manipulation skills due to cognitive empathy).   

[Tangled mangled]

Couscous.
Just to add to this thread.

I totally agree with you and the research paper you shared. Cluster B personality disorders are highly comorbid, it’s rare that you will find only one PD in these individuals.

Some of the stories I ve read in this tread hae clearly illustrated bpd psychopathy. Sam Vaknin describes Bpd as secondary psychopaths.
My experience with my male pwUBPD/stbx, he is quite remorseless and will deny he ever hurt anyone. Now that  I see what he has been doing he never shows anxiety at things that will make other people anxious eg a job interview or driving test etc.
I have heard that psychopaths do not seek validation through attention or praise, bpd seeks validation through nurturing relationships, psychopaths are goal driven.
There’s also sociopathy, while psychopaths are smooth operators, sociopaths are sloppy and most of the BPD I’ve met are sloppy imo.

[Notwendy]

Interesting article.  I think the cluster B's overlap and are on spectrum, even sociopathy/psychopathy. I read an interesting book called "The Psychopath Next Door" which describes those who are not doing the extreme criminal behaviors we attribute to psychopaths but instead act out their tendencies in non criminal but hurtful ways to others. I found it to be an interesting read.