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VIDEO: "What is parental alienation?" Parental alienation is when a parent allows a child to participate or hear them degrade the other parent. This is not uncommon in divorces and the children often adjust. In severe cases, however, it can be devastating to the child. This video provides a helpful overview.
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« on: August 02, 2013, 12:08:26 AM »

"I heard the news today oh boy... . "

4 days shy of a 1 year breakup and she is engaged. After talking for 8 months then dating for 2 my ex and her new bf are engaged.

I expected it but man, blew my mind the speed at which she operates. I don't know what to feel. My gut still sunk but at least I didn't burst into tears. Thank you therapy.

Still can't help but feel uneasy about it. My biggest thing is doesn't ANYONE question her? Family? Friends? Does no one say "hey maybe you should slow it down a bit." Nope. They would rather not get the backlash or something.

The good thing is this is the final nail in the coffin. There is nothing else left so hopefully I can really more fully move on from this wretched stage of my life.
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2013, 02:35:05 AM »

Sharkey, mate, just be glad it's not you she's marrying! 
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2013, 02:42:01 AM »

Hey Sharkey.   Have been there mate.  Know how much that hurts.  Mine moved ever quicker than that. 

My only advice is be kind to yourself.   



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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2013, 03:00:02 AM »

Hey Sharkey.   Have been there mate.  Know how much that hurts.  Mine moved ever quicker than that. 

My only advice is be kind to yourself.

Sharkey, mate, just be glad it's not you she's marrying! 

Quoted both of these because they are true and you should really consider them.

Bear this in mind; WE know who our BPDex's REALLY are.  Through Facebook and whatever else, they may have most of the world fooled.  But their faults bleed out when they get close to people.  And the same thing will happen with their new partners.  I think sometimes we fool ourselves into thinking that our BPDex's are only the wretched, manipulative, hurtful, broken people that they are AROUND US or WITH US.  That isn't true.  The new guy marrying your BPDex is going to see and deal with everything you did, and likely more because they are taking an additional step and getting married.  Our BPDex's are masters of manipulation and lying, and can make most of the world believe that they are wonderful, successful, happy people.  That is not the truth though; WE, because we got close to them, see them for WHO THEY REALLY ARE.  And it isn't pretty.

It is funny though; many people, myself included, can sit here and say definitively that "I would never go back to that relationship", and yet be distressed when our BPDex's move on and get married. I am reading an excellent book called "Attached: The new science of adult attachment" which deals with the three different attachment styles people may have. It specifically addresses how we can think and know logically that these are poor partners for us, and yet our attachment patterns are not so quick or easy to disengage.  Point being, there is definitely an element, larger in some and smaller in others, to missing our BPDex's that is due to us being attached to someone period, regardless of who the person we are attached to is. This is a lot of times where the feelings of "they are the only one in the world for me" come from... . those feelings fade to a fraction of what they are now once we detach.


Also, take a simple step back and look at all you know about your BPDex.  And then look at the fact that she is getting married.  It is my experience (both from reading on this board and from my own personal experience with my own BPDex) that pwBPD look at marriage as some kind of "fix all" that is going to make all of their problems go away.  Like if they can just get that ring on their finger, all the hurt, anguish, turmoil, and inability to maintain a relationship will vanish and it will be happily ever after.  I met my BPDex when she was 21 and she had already been married and divorced at 19.  She is also engaged (maybe? she told different people different things, who knows the truth) currently to the guy she was cheating on me with most recently who she has KNOWN for just over 3 months. 

These are not stable people.  I think we as NON's likely have a much more grounded appreciation and maybe reverence for marriage; it isn't a matter to be taken lightly.  In comparison, it almost seems like a game to pwBPD.

Just because your BPDex is getting married DOES NOT mean that she is going to ride off into the sunset and live happily ever after.  Her disorder and problems will be present as ever.  It also does not mean that the marriage is going to last.  And if it does last, it is not going to be a happy one. There are simply too many holes.  No one can fill them all.


You dodged a bullet in not marrying your BPDex.  As did I.  As did many.  Be grateful.  Keep learning. I do every day.

Peace and strength.
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2013, 03:20:34 AM »

Wise words from octoberfest. 

I did all the wrong things.  I needed answers.  I chased.  I got stressed and run down. 

I failed to take my own advice.   One year and six months on I am lying on the sofa having just taken an anti depressant.  I missed an important meeting for work today after missing a flight.  I am suffering from crippling depression and have hit rock bottom.   If I had walled away and started taking care of myself and directed some of the love I gave her to myself I would be in a very different person.  I write this because I don't want others to make the same mistake.   

She may seem happy.  She even may be for a while but those issues will always be there if she is not in treatment.   I still struggle to think I dodged a bullet but in time I know I will.    The lies deception immaturity cowardice and bad behaviour - all her words about herself to keep me hooked will not change.

Please keep reaching out.  I know how hard that news is.
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2013, 04:32:53 AM »

My god thank you all of you. It brought tears to my eyes reading your caring and insightful posts. I need to hear those things. I don't know what I would do without this place.

It's incredible because I know in her mind this is perfectly logical. She has said to me before "I just want to get married so bad!" Its surreal. I just hope I can keep learning from this and be the best person I can be.
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2013, 04:34:18 AM »

Oh and one more thing, it's an overseas thing so they have literally only spent about 7 weeks together total.
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2013, 04:51:54 AM »

Oh and one more thing, it's an overseas thing so they have literally only spent about 7 weeks together total.

This should tell you a lot!
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2013, 10:39:18 AM »

I was working out of town. My ex and I had been a couple for seven years. When I called her and told her that my place had burned down she was the closest person to me in my life. At that point she informed me that she was in a relationship with someone else and had been for months. We weren't even fighting and had not even broken up. I was playing my guitar and singing to her on the night before my place burned down. All of her clothes were still at my place when it burned. What kind of person could mask a relationship like that? My head is still spinning. She wasn't cheating on me she was practically married to another guy while we're were still together! Still can't get my brain around that one.
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2013, 12:29:25 PM »

I am so sorry Sharkey.  That's got to hurt like hell.
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2013, 12:46:48 PM »

As much as it hurts, I have to reemphasize what others have said - Thank God everyday that you didn't marry them. And more to be thankful for - you never have to co-parent with them. That is a particularly heinous hell on earth!

God bless you all and speedy healing!
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2013, 01:00:36 PM »

Mine hasn't gotten into another relationship that I know of but whenever I catch myself thinking about it. I remember that I escaped and should feel bad for the next victim.
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2013, 01:21:45 PM »

Sharkey!

My brother from another mother!

Mine got engaged in May; initially scheduled to be married in August.  We broke up in August after I found out she'd been sharing herself again... . with this guy.

Long-distance relationship also; he lived 2.5 hours away. So they saw each other every other weekend or so.

When she called to tell me that she was getting married, I made a mistake and said "Wow, that was quick." She answered "Johnny, I just want to be married, white picket fence, golden retriever, 2.5 kids."

Nevermind that she's already been married, and that she's already broken off two other engagements... .

Incidentally, we slepy together on a reconnect in April, and she wanted to do so again in June.

Last I heard, the marriage had been postponed, but she's still moving away with him.

Hurts like hell, even though I would never wanna be this guy.

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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2013, 06:39:14 PM »

I am so sorry Sharkey.  That's got to hurt like hell.

Thank you, thank you everyone. Just having people understand is so comforting.
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