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heartonsleeve

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« on: October 13, 2013, 02:49:29 PM »

a conversation between me and my BPDex...

BPD: I told you from day 1 not to ask these questions, I tell you everyday to leave it out but you carry on wanting to no, and yes I am somewhat of a retard and can't do anything right and I've got nothing going for me at all but you always want to no... I new of you found out a little bit you'd hit off and I told you this but you didn't listen... .I tell you I'm fine for all the right reason I just need you to accept it, I can understand if you wanna leave me coz out of all people iv met (and that's a lot) only 1 could except me, I'm sick of changing for everyone around me because they don't like it but in real world you're never gonna except me the way I am so just wanna no what your gonna do tbh

ME:ur not a retard, u just see things upside down and ur way too hard on urself

BPD: No I'm not How?

ME: becouse u make it hard for others to love u

BPD: Coz I no no one will

ME: i prove meself over n over but u never accept it

BPD:So do everyone but no one stays so why you any different

ME: becouse u wont accept it ur scared

BPD: Not scared

ME:the more i tell u i want ya the more u try and prove i dont

BPD: I no your gonn leave me at some point so why should I let myself get hurt?

ME: i duno if u lie but u change ur stories

BPD: ... .I can't explain why

ME: least ur honest when uv been sussed

BPD:This is exactly what I was afraid of

ME: me knowin ur a dick?

BPD: Yes

ME: and this is wat im afraid of u knowin it, but not being able to change

BPD:I can but I can't explain.

problem the most interesting convo we had... .this is before i knew she had BPD and was just me calling her out... .but i find it interesting towards the end she actualy admits to lieing and knowing her games, is this a good sign?

if she trys to ever recycle me im thinking of saying to her straight up and with no emotions during the whole thing... .im not judging you, and your answers change nothing but what where your lies? maybe go through our relationship and each time she admits she was wrong or confesses a lie i'll tell her im proud she can admit these things and how she should have handled it... .may even chuck her a square of chocolate each time LOL

let her know that her being wrong and admitting wrongs arnt the end of the world
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heartonsleeve

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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2013, 02:54:40 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2013, 02:54:59 AM »

Hi heartonsleeve,

Is it a good sign ?  That is a very good question !  But the answer is not so easy I think.

I've experienced several moments when my ex partner opened up on me on her behavior, fears, how she did see her self as a person, etc.  Especially also when I was to be recycled.

At the time I didn't know about he BPD.  Now that she knows, she isn't willing to do anything about it.  Destroying her own life and the one of her only child. 

Denial is very often very strong by borderlines, for the very simple reason I guess that it is what they are used to do all of their life... .  Just think how hard it is to change something about your own behavior, sometimes even little things.

One would think that if they compare their own life to that of others, they may suspect something is wrong, and they most certainly do I think, but not enough. 

Empathy, support etc certainly also plays its part in this I think.

After all I had heard from my ex I was hoping as well that she would understand her own behavior or at least seek help for the sake of her daughter, she didn't at all !

Conclusion : it all depends on them I think
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2013, 07:12:08 AM »

yeah iv read the same thing from others now after posting this... .mine is a little on the mend, as she told me that she needed strong boundries and that she was mentaly a child :/ she does know, she just couldnt tell me threw fear... .at least she knows her illness and made attempts at telling me how to help control her... .shame i didnt realise how serious it was to be taken untill after we split Laugh out loud (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2013, 08:20:18 AM »

a conversation between me and my BPDex...

BPD: I told you from day 1 not to ask these questions, I tell you everyday to leave it out but you carry on wanting to no, and yes I am somewhat of a retard and can't do anything right and I've got nothing going for me at all but you always want to no... I new of you found out a little bit you'd  off and I told you this but you didn't listen... .I tell you I'm fine for all the right reason I just need you to accept it, I can understand if you wanna leave me coz out of all people iv met (and that's a lot) only 1 could except me, I'm sick of changing for everyone around me because they don't like it but in real world you're never gonna except me the way I am so just wanna no what your gonna do tbh

ME:ur not a retard, u just see things upside down and ur way too hard on urself

BPD: No I'm not How?

ME: becouse u make it hard for others to love u

BPD: Coz I no no one will

ME: i prove meself over n over but u never accept it

BPD:So do everyone but no one stays so why you any different

ME: becouse u wont accept it ur scared

BPD: Not scared

ME:the more i tell u i want ya the more u try and prove i dont

BPD: I no your gonn leave me at some point so why should I let myself get hurt?

ME: i duno if u lie but u change ur stories

BPD: ... .I can't explain why

ME: least ur honest when uv been sussed

BPD:This is exactly what I was afraid of

ME: me knowin ur a dick?

BPD: Yes

ME: and this is wat im afraid of u knowin it, but not being able to change

BPD:I can but I can't explain.

problem the most interesting convo we had... .this is before i knew she had BPD and was just me calling her out... .but i find it interesting towards the end she actualy admits to lieing and knowing her games, is this a good sign?

if she trys to ever recycle me im thinking of saying to her straight up and with no emotions during the whole thing... .im not judging you, and your answers change nothing but what where your lies? maybe go through our relationship and each time she admits she was wrong or confesses a lie i'll tell her im proud she can admit these things and how she should have handled it... .may even chuck her a square of chocolate each time LOL

let her know that her being wrong and admitting wrongs arnt the end of the world

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With that... .

Frame of mind... .

There is no overcoming it.

So she will... .

Treat you like the enemy... .

Because her disorder... .

Will distort... .

That image she has... .

Of anyone(you)... .

Who gets too close... .

To her... .

And will... .

Compel her... .

In the most brutal way... .

To hurt you... .

First... .

Before you hurt her.

That is BPD.

I am sorry you experienced that.

yeah iv read the same thing from others now after posting this... .mine is a little on the mend, as she told me that she needed strong boundries and that she was mentaly a child :/ she does know, she just couldnt tell me threw fear... . at least she knows her illness and made attempts at telling me how to help control her.... .shame i didnt realise how serious it was to be taken untill after we split Laugh out loud (click to insert in post)

In bold.

It is interesting you mention that... .

My exUBPDgf... .

In round 2... .

When she admitted... .

To her BPD... .

That she needed... .

For me... .

"To reign her in... ."... .

When she gets out of control.

Those were her exact words.

Now... .

I knew... .

Of her BPD... .

But having to control her... .?

My personality... .

Does not allow me that.

And... .

I shouldnt have to do that.

Plus... .

It made me scared to think... .

What exactly was she doing... .

Besides the out of control behavior... .

That i did experience... .

(Treating me like i was garbage... .)... .

That i needed to reign her in... .?

I dont even want to know.
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2013, 08:48:40 AM »

at least she knows her illness and made attempts at telling me how to help control her... .shame i didnt realise how serious it was to be taken untill after we split Laugh out loud (click to insert in post)

Hey heartonsleeve, please don't beat yourself up. Most people don't know the first thing about BPD.

My exBPDgf was diagnosed and knows about BPD. She talked the talk about not being in denial but never walked the walk. I knew she had BPD and tried to deal and to make her feel worthy too, that she had self worth and that I'd never leave. Unfortunately, somebody who hates themselves is pretty much unable to receive love.

Please don't fall into the trap of thinking you can cure her or fix her because you can't. As I said, my exBPDgf was diagnosed and she tried therapy. If a professional who knows about BPD can't cure her, what chance do I have? Zero.

In a way your BPDex was right when she had that conversation with you. Are you still in contact with her now?
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heartonsleeve

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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2013, 09:48:11 AM »

nope no contact, her choice! i know im done with her, would never go back after reading everything in places like these, helped me so much id be beating meself and all sorts i reckon had i not found out meself about BPD... .

but saying that, if she ever comes back i will ask her exactly she intends to ever be happy... .i think she knows its a roundabout she cant get off... .just hasnt got the balls to go therapy... .then i'll walk away forever, hopefully i'll have a new gf by then and i wont bother at all Laugh out loud (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2013, 01:50:07 PM »

This reminds me of conversations i had with my BPD ex and my current girl who claimed she doesn't have BPD. Bwhaha. God, I seriously could have had these conversations myself :D
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