Home page of BPDFamily.com, online relationship supportMember registration here
March 27, 2025, 08:02:52 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Board Admins: Kells76, Once Removed, Turkish
Senior Ambassadors: EyesUp, SinisterComplex
  Help!   Boards   Please Donate Login to Post New?--Click here to register  
bing
Experts share their discoveries [video]
100
Caretaking - What is it all about?
Margalis Fjelstad, PhD
Blame - why we do it?
Brené Brown, PhD
Family dynamics matter.
Alan Fruzzetti, PhD
A perspective on BPD
Ivan Spielberg, PhD
Pages: 1 [2]  All   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Sex as a hook  (Read 1725 times)
IsItHerOrIsItMe
****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Romantic Partner
Posts: 286



« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2014, 07:53:34 AM »

She has obviously struggled with my better way of dealing with her lately and a few nights ago told me this was how our relationship was always going to be from here on out.  No affection, no friendship, no dates, no sex... . Etc. 

Mine usually combines this with her black/white thinking... . If I refuse to participate in weird scenario discussions or enforce a boundary then she'll try the "then we'll live as friends" route.

She doesn't follow through though, it conflicts with her wanting to make sure I'm the one who says no so she can complain I don't find her attractive (because somehow sex 5 nights a week... . don't find her attractive... . sex 7 nights a week... . maybe)
Logged
mace17
**
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Romantic Partner
Relationship status: Married 6 years
Posts: 87



« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2014, 11:21:50 AM »

I was reading some discussions on projection on another part of this board, and a thought occurred to me.  When my H accused me of "using sex as a weapon" could that have been a projection?  He is the one who expects if very frequently and expects me to initiate it, and gets very cranky if I don't initiate as much as he wants me to, it seems like he could be the one using sex as a weapon and projecting that on me.  Any thoughts?

Logged
going places
******
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Child
Relationship status: Divorced
Posts: 835



« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2014, 11:30:45 AM »

Ok I'm going to be perfectly blunt.  I've had lots of times where I felt sex was being used as a reward or withheld as a punishment.  The lines between doing that intentionally and as a mere part of mood shift is pretty blurry.

I'm wondering if someone who has been diagnosed with BPD in the past can shed some light on a couple of questions for me.  First of all, does sexual intimacy do the same for them as it does for the non?  I.E. - does it promote feelings of bonding, closeness, and caring, or does it register differently?

I am not BPD and ex has not been officially diagnosed... . but I will share with you what I know from experience.

For my ex: No. Sex was for him, and him only. It was a release, period. It was the pinnacle of his 'addiction'. It was 100% for him.


Excerpt
The second question is that I believe it's often used as a hook - often I've read that sex with a BP is out of this world, and yes I can attest to the fact that at times (particularly when she feels I'm rethinking things or may be threatened) that she seems to go out of her way to ensure I have absolutely unquestionably great sexual encounters with her (after which she often muses about how "right" we are for each other and how she likes to make me happy).  So my question is, am I just being manipulated here or - similar to the first question - am I to believe she really believes this to be true herself and is doing things partly to reassure HERSELF as well?

She 'may' feel this is all she's worth.

If she is AMAZING in bed, giving 'all of herself' in anyway to please you, in return, she will then be accepted (faults and all) by you.

Sex is a great manipulation tool for women. Why? Because it works.

Please hear me when I say that NOT ALL MEN are the same, but what I have seen and heard, the majority of men I have talked to in my life will put up with just about anything as long as their bedtime activities satisfy them. Plenty of times I hear them complain about the female in their life (over weight, bad house keeper, witchy, etc) but she's a freak in the bed, so they just go to the bar, run their woman down to strangers, but go home and get 'satisfied' in the bedroom.

I just shake my head.

(PS I am a bartender)



Logged
bruceli
*****
Offline Offline

What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Posts: 636


WWW
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2014, 04:01:10 PM »

Ok I'm going to be perfectly blunt.  I've had lots of times where I felt sex was being used as a reward or withheld as a punishment.  The lines between doing that intentionally and as a mere part of mood shift is pretty blurry.

I'm wondering if someone who has been diagnosed with BPD in the past can shed some light on a couple of questions for me.  First of all, does sexual intimacy do the same for them as it does for the non?  I.E. - does it promote feelings of bonding, closeness, and caring, or does it register differently?

I am not BPD and ex has not been officially diagnosed... . but I will share with you what I know from experience.

For my ex: No. Sex was for him, and him only. It was a release, period. It was the pinnacle of his 'addiction'. It was 100% for him.


Excerpt
The second question is that I believe it's often used as a hook - often I've read that sex with a BP is out of this world, and yes I can attest to the fact that at times (particularly when she feels I'm rethinking things or may be threatened) that she seems to go out of her way to ensure I have absolutely unquestionably great sexual encounters with her (after which she often muses about how "right" we are for each other and how she likes to make me happy).  So my question is, am I just being manipulated here or - similar to the first question - am I to believe she really believes this to be true herself and is doing things partly to reassure HERSELF as well?

She 'may' feel this is all she's worth.

If she is AMAZING in bed, giving 'all of herself' in anyway to please you, in return, she will then be accepted (faults and all) by you.

Sex is a great manipulation tool for women. Why? Because it works.

Please hear me when I say that NOT ALL MEN are the same, but what I have seen and heard, the majority of men I have talked to in my life will put up with just about anything as long as their bedtime activities satisfy them. Plenty of times I hear them complain about the female in their life (over weight, bad house keeper, witchy, etc) but she's a freak in the bed, so they just go to the bar, run their woman down to strangers, but go home and get 'satisfied' in the bedroom.I just shake my head.

(PS I am a bartender)


Both in my personal and professional opinion about this... . I would have to agree.
Logged
bruceli
*****
Offline Offline

What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Posts: 636


WWW
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2014, 04:02:59 PM »

I was reading some discussions on projection on another part of this board, and a thought occurred to me.  When my H accused me of "using sex as a weapon" could that have been a projection?  He is the one who expects if very frequently and expects me to initiate it, and gets very cranky if I don't initiate as much as he wants me to, it seems like he could be the one using sex as a weapon and projecting that on me.  Any thoughts?

In the case of my pwPD... . it surely is.  Used to punish and control until she can't handle it anymore.
Logged
Can You Help Us Stay on the Air in 2024?

Pages: 1 [2]  All   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Our 2023 Financial Sponsors
We are all appreciative of the members who provide the funding to keep BPDFamily on the air.
12years
alterK
AskingWhy
At Bay
Cat Familiar
CoherentMoose
drained1996
EZEarache
Flora and Fauna
ForeverDad
Gemsforeyes
Goldcrest
Harri
healthfreedom4s
hope2727
khibomsis
Lemon Squeezy
Memorial Donation (4)
Methos
Methuen
Mommydoc
Mutt
P.F.Change
Penumbra66
Red22
Rev
SamwizeGamgee
Skip
Swimmy55
Tartan Pants
Turkish
whirlpoollife



Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2006-2020, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!