Home page of BPDFamily.com, online relationship supportMember registration here
June 27, 2024, 10:05:16 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Board Admins: Kells76, Once Removed, Turkish
Senior Ambassadors: EyesUp, SinisterComplex
  Help!   Boards   Please Donate Login to Post New?--Click here to register  
bing
Family Court Strategies: When Your Partner Has BPD OR NPD Traits. Practicing lawyer, Senior Family Mediator, and former Licensed Clinical Social Worker with twelve years’ experience and an expert on navigating the Family Court process.
222
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Advice / Validation please...  (Read 401 times)
Aussie JJ
******
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Ex-romantic partner
Relationship status: apart 18 months, 12 months push pull 6 months seperated properly, 4 months k own about BPD
Posts: 865


« on: October 28, 2014, 03:55:27 AM »

Ok,

I'm learning with the boundary's thing, really trying to be solid with mine.  Not step in and try to be the white knight and everything else.  She has escalated as I'm not validating her thing that I'm a bad father any everything else.  Intervention order, blocking progress with getting a resolution outside of court.  You name it she is doing it, I know it will go to court and I'm not afraid of that. 

I have been as unemotional as I can be with her, told her I will do XYZ as its in our sons best interest and followed through.  She isn't coping at all.  Falling apart as she has no control. 

Today at drop off exBPDgf was in tears, obviously just been crying and in tears.  My mind went name the behaviour, triangulation, she's playing victim, wants me to play the role of rescuer or persecutor and I have to just be middle ground, no emotion. 

I followed through, zero emotion.  Thing is, she has no real supports, her family is fked.  They enable and try to get her to deny everything.  I know if I call the Police it will look like I am being petty after she has put paperwork in and I will then be the persecutor and they will be the hero in the triangulation dynamic.  I know all of this I can also see that she isn't coping and in a really bad place.  I want to step in and tell her it will be al-right and everything else, want to try and help I also know this is just enabling. 

Really in a ___ position as it isn't healthy for our son to have this at handover and I know that I cant do anything.  Solicitor says, let her be.  Do nothing, she has survived so far she will survive this, small short term pain VS long term gain. 

Just lost on this, documenting it all however I also know bringing it up she will force exchanges at a neutral place like the police station or something.  That as well isn't best for our son.  Doesn't she see how pathetic and easy it is to see through all of this and how much it hurts our son.  Reality check pull your head out and grow up. 

I am in two minds and they are polar opposite, walk away and rescue.  Feeling very confused and looking for some advice from others atm. 


AJJ. 
Logged
Swiggle
***
Offline Offline

What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Romantic partner’s ex
Posts: 232



WWW
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2014, 08:49:47 AM »

Ok,

I'm learning with the boundary's thing, really trying to be solid with mine.  Not step in and try to be the white knight and everything else.  She has escalated as I'm not validating her thing that I'm a bad father any everything else.  Intervention order, blocking progress with getting a resolution outside of court.  You name it she is doing it, I know it will go to court and I'm not afraid of that. 

I have been as unemotional as I can be with her, told her I will do XYZ as its in our sons best interest and followed through.  She isn't coping at all.  Falling apart as she has no control. 

Today at drop off exBPDgf was in tears, obviously just been crying and in tears.  My mind went name the behaviour, triangulation, she's playing victim, wants me to play the role of rescuer or persecutor and I have to just be middle ground, no emotion. 

I followed through, zero emotion.  Thing is, she has no real supports, her family is fked.  They enable and try to get her to deny everything.  I know if I call the Police it will look like I am being petty after she has put paperwork in and I will then be the persecutor and they will be the hero in the triangulation dynamic.  I know all of this I can also see that she isn't coping and in a really bad place.  I want to step in and tell her it will be al-right and everything else, want to try and help I also know this is just enabling. 

Really in a position as it isn't healthy for our son to have this at handover and I know that I cant do anything.  Solicitor says, let her be.  Do nothing, she has survived so far she will survive this, small short term pain VS long term gain. 

Just lost on this, documenting it all however I also know bringing it up she will force exchanges at a neutral place like the police station or something.  That as well isn't best for our son.  Doesn't she see how pathetic and easy it is to see through all of this and how much it hurts our son.  Reality check pull your head out and grow up. 

She doesn't see how damaging it is for your son, becasue she can't. They don't think like this and even pointing it out will do no good.

I am in two minds and they are polar opposite, walk away and rescue.  Feeling very confused and looking for some advice from others atm. 

you can't rescue her, be polite, but don't engage her. Ask yourself this, would you want your son growing up to be a rescuer to someone like this, if the answre is no then model that appropriate behavior for him. Let him see how you deal with his mom's behavior and maybe that will help him deal with it as he gets older.  Over time he will get it! We know that it isn't good for the kids to see this behavior but we can't change the behavior.   


AJJ. 

Logged

“The value and quality of any love is determined solely by the lover himself.” ~ Carson McCullers
Turkish
BOARD ADMINISTRATOR
**
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Other
Relationship status: "Divorced"/abandoned by SO in Feb 2014; Mother with BPD, PTSD, Depression and Anxiety: RIP in 2021.
Posts: 12165


Dad to my wolf pack


« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2014, 12:17:08 PM »

It's good that you have a logical grasp on this situation, AJJ, especially with understanding the triangulation drama.

Perhaps you feel the need to rescue her (but are doing well not doing it), but could you perhaps feel the need to rescue your son? This is a tough situation, as she's enmeshing your child in her disordered behaviors. It could be all that you can do is to what you are doing (documenting, practicing mindfulness), and the more time you have AJJ to son time, the better for both you and him.
Logged

    “For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.” ― Rudyard Kipling
Aussie JJ
******
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Ex-romantic partner
Relationship status: apart 18 months, 12 months push pull 6 months seperated properly, 4 months k own about BPD
Posts: 865


« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2014, 05:05:19 PM »

It goes against everything I know to see this and do nothing... .

It isn't nothing as I am making a choice not to rescue/involve myself in the triangle but holly crap it is horrid.  She has no idea, no insight into her actions.  This will just be another example from her view of me being evil at hangovers etc.  Seriously damned if you do damned if you dont. 


AJJ. 
Logged
Can You Help Us Stay on the Air in 2024?

Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Our 2023 Financial Sponsors
We are all appreciative of the members who provide the funding to keep BPDFamily on the air.
12years
alterK
AskingWhy
At Bay
Cat Familiar
CoherentMoose
drained1996
EZEarache
Flora and Fauna
ForeverDad
Gemsforeyes
Goldcrest
Harri
healthfreedom4s
hope2727
khibomsis
Lemon Squeezy
Memorial Donation (4)
Methos
Methuen
Mommydoc
Mutt
P.F.Change
Penumbra66
Red22
Rev
SamwizeGamgee
Skip
Swimmy55
Tartan Pants
Turkish
whirlpoollife



Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2006-2020, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!