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Author Topic: Looking for opinion: Ex demands that I remove all trace of her existence  (Read 517 times)
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« on: February 13, 2015, 11:32:20 AM »

This situation has been bugging me for awhile, and I am hoping to get some outside opinion.

After I went NC, my ex been demanding many things, one of it being that I delete/trash things that has to do with her, like gifts. I think it is her attempt to break my NC, but I am not 100% sure, because this was my first relationship and I don't know if this is just something exs are suppose to do after a break up? I've throw away all gifts, cards, clothes, etc as she requested, but it just seem to hurt her more.

I am a digital artist, and so is she. We have exchanged many art works for each other. At this point, I removed all arts I've received from her as requested. But after that, she began demanding that I remove the records of my own artworks that I made while we were still in relationship. This is something I do not want to do. I've stored them away so I don't have to look at them, but it is important for me to document my own art activities.

Am I being a jerk here? I thought about just lying to her "yes, I deleted them", but that doesn't seem right, and she is not going to believe that. I am a date/record/documentation-freak. I am just not sure what to think. I do not want to break NC. I broke NC about 2 weeks ago and I am processing another batch of shame, but I used that chance to tell her "no, I am not deleting my own artwork off my own harddrive". For some reason it felt good to tell her that, but I didn't actually believe in that "no" completely.

It was not my intention to do everything she tells me to do, but I guess I kind of did up to this point. I feel like an idiot. She seem to really really want to take away every evidence that we knew each other. I see that she is incredibly hurt that I left her, but I am really tired of this harassment. It's been a year already. Am I really hurting her because I kept trace of her existence? Am I being selfish? I don't know what "normal" relationship is like, so just thinking about this by myself makes me feel more and more confused and doubtful.

Thank you for reading.
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2015, 11:49:14 AM »

You do not have to respond to any of her requests. Stay NC. Block her in all phone, texts, FB, and emails.  You said that it has been a year since the break up yet she is still dictating what you need to be doing. You said no now stick to those boundaries. You do not have to delete or get rid of anything you do not want to. If you want to save your art work then save it. It is none of her business what you do. By making demands it allows her to stay engaged in your life and control you. Ignore her move on with your life. Set your boundaries and stick to them. If you want to save your work then save it. It is yours and it is up to you what you do with it. Take your control back.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2015, 11:58:44 AM »

you have no obligation to do anything. I would stay NC. But i do find this interesting though, mine did the exact same thing. when I went NC she would send me text message demanding that I change my FB picture. mine has nothing to do with her but I was wearing a ballcap that she had bought me. crazy... .I think it was just away of her still tryiing to control me since she had lost control of me if that makes sense. it was also a way to try to get me to break NC. and I also think it was a way of getting validation from me. Think about it if I honored her request It must me that on some level i still carred what she thought, did, feeling etc... .I stayed NC and didnt repsond.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2015, 12:01:36 PM »

No, you're not crazy, evenGrid. Not even close.

For some people with BPD -- or whatever PD they suffer from -- this is something they feel a need to do. Every time my ex and I broke up (there were three times), for example, she went through this slash and burn phase. The first time, she threw away everything I ever gave her. Some pretty nice gifts, really. Made no sense to me. Second time, she left a bunch of things at my house, and used that detail to demand that I permit her to come back and enter the house to round up her own things -- because she didn't feel I would do it right (perfectly capable of knowing what's mine and what isn't, and not sure what use I would have for, say, an abandoned pair of heels... .). I wound up shipping everything back to her -- as soon as I did, I felt a huge sense of relief, and wished I'd've done it immediately -- but I was trying to protect her feelings at the time.  

Yet, she persisted still -- said I hadn't returned all of her things, and made a list for me -- which included every gift she'd ever given me during our r-ship. Claimed that she was entitled to have them returned to her, because I broke the contract of our r-ship (we weren't married, didn't live together, weren't engaged... .), and as such I wasn't entitled to keep those gifts, because she gave them to me because we were in a r-ship. Now that we weren't in an r-ship anymore, she reasoned, I didn't deserve the gifts anymore either. It's a kind of revisionism that's I think fits in with their splitting us ("painting us black" -- maybe it makes the rest of their hate-mongering more psychically comfortable. Who knows -- I have no clue how their brains work. She went as far as to send me a list -- including line items for money that she'd "invested" in the r-ship (gas for her car to drive to and from my place, money she spent on vacations that we took together, really ridiculous) -- and claimed that she had the right to all of it. Said she spoke to an attorney who'd advised her to take me to small claims court -- which no atty in their right mind would advise, or judge would entertain. Even enlisted the services of a local police officer to do a "home escort" -- thinking she would be able to waltz right into my house and take anything she felt she was entitled to (doesn't work that way, either).  

This last time, she repeated the same thing -- even though this time I learned from our past break-ups and as soon as I told her it was over, I got all of her things together, boxed them all up nicely in some plastic tubs that I took the trouble to purchase, instead of just throwing everything in trash bags -- or just tossing it! -- and left on her doorstep. Of course, I STILL hadn't done it correctly, according to her and she resumed her itemized list BS and threats of police and court. This time, though, I knew it was all part of the extinction burst (search that to read more about it on these boards). The only new "tactic" she used the final time was to start demanding that I stop using pics of myself that she'd taken while we were together, claiming she held the copyright on them, and like everything else, since it was taken during the r-ship, I had no right to use them now that we weren't together. She went as far as to fill out the paperwork to file a DMCA takedown notice to force me to stop using the images. Funny -- sad, really -- how she had no reservations whatsoever to resort to force to get something she wanted -- yet, any time I attempted to enforce a personal boundary with her while we were together, she accused me of being abusive.   Anyway, as you may know, there's really no resolving this kind of issue with an online service provider, so I finally just changed the image to be done with it.  

Basically, with my ex, it was all about spite and anger and control -- as well as some mistaken belief that, if she pushed hard enough, I'd have to fight her, right? Because she knows I'm not a pushover. But what she doesn't get, being BPD, is the concept of choosing your battles.

Anyway -- don't feel pressured to do anything you don't want to do.
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