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« on: February 22, 2015, 06:27:14 PM »

I have been NC for over a 100 days. My undiagnosed exBPDgf still rents space in my head. Not as much space but she is still there. She has a replacement.  The replacement was line up before we broke up. She is in love with the replacement and she will probably marry the replacement. They have been dating four months.  Our relationship lasted about six years. We were suppose to get married and all that. I know I dodged a bullet and I am better off with out her. My life slowly but continually gets better everyday.

My question is... .do you ever wonder if you ex actually is mentally ill?  Mine isn't officially diagnosed with BPD or any other personality disorder. I just googled the symptoms and it lead me here. That is my biggest fear... .That she isn't BPD or mentally ill. Was it just me all along?

I have worked really hard on myself the last two years. I went to therapy and continue to go. I made every change she asked.me to make.  I am by no means perfect. I have many many faults. But I can't help but wonder sometimes... .now That she looks so happy (and I remember she looked that happy with me at first but it's still hard) is there anything really wrong with her or is it me?
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2015, 07:15:11 PM »

Willtimeheal have you looked back at your first post here? I did. I have to say my friend I read a lot of traits in her behaviors there. You know we cannot diagnose anyone here however your story seems to match a lot of the stories here. And whether or not there is a label she treated you very poorly. You are worthy of a partner that loves honestly and respects you.

It's been about 4 months of NC correct? That's not very long given your r/s lasted 6 years. I've always thought that the beginning of NC was the beginning date of our healing process because otherwise we are still involved in fog to some extent. Just mho.

I think we all go through wondering if we are wrong about a diagnosis and we could be but the level of alcohol addiction and emotional immaturity I read in your story clearly shows she was not a healthy minded individual.

I think you were right when you said in one of your first posts that she was toxic for you. It gets better and I think time does heal when we are  actively working on ourselves during that time.
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2015, 08:52:39 PM »

Thanks suzn. I did go back and read my first posts as you suggested. What hit me the hardest was the date of my first post. Have I really been dealing with this stuff that long was all I could think. It was an eye opener. Thank you for suggesting it.

We broke up at the beginning of October so we have been apart 4-5 months. She already had my replacement lined up. I do wonder if I am wrong about her. Part of me wants to be... .I would like to believe this is all a bad dream. But it's reality. It is just scary ... .the thought that maybe it is me. I see her so happy and I am struggling and rebuilding myself so it's hard not to think maybe it was me. I know I played a part and I am working on it but it scares me that I am the defective one.
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2015, 10:50:44 PM »

Thanks suzn. I did go back and read my first posts as you suggested. What hit me the hardest was the date of my first post. Have I really been dealing with this stuff that long was all I could think. It was an eye opener. Thank you for suggesting it.

We broke up at the beginning of October so we have been apart 4-5 months. She already had my replacement lined up. I do wonder if I am wrong about her. Part of me wants to be... .I would like to believe this is all a bad dream. But it's reality. It is just scary ... .the thought that maybe it is me. I see her so happy and I am struggling and rebuilding myself so it's hard not to think maybe it was me. I know I played a part and I am working on it but it scares me that I am the defective one.

You know, early on I wondered if she might,or might not be BPD. She is a mental health professional herself and her behavior didn't seem "crazy" until the last 4 yrs together. Even then her rages were rarely directed at me. I always figured she had trouble handling stress. And honestly, she always seemed to be a glass half empty kind of person, always thinking about the bad of something instead of seeing the good.

She and I were together 9.5 yrs, knew one another 10. We were a lesbian couple, went thru family deaths, family births, her divorce,a custody battle with her exH, 5 different jobs for her, raising her toddler sons to Jr. Hi age, and even thru the economic crisis of 2008 when I lost a ton of money. I would have argued we were a strong-bonded couple and that we would talk and make our way thru any problem.

She sent a type written note in a birthday card to me last August telling me that she had been dating men all summer. And that the custody battle had been a life-altering experience for her and that she and her sons were going down a different path. She also told me I had been a good "friend." There was no discussion with me about this prior to the note, and I have come to learn that she actually began "interviews" for my replacement back as early as the first of April, after suffering a serious blow in the custody battle. She didn't lose custody, but her attorney was a pile of crap. I had suggested on two separate occassions she change lawyers, but she insisted the woman was one of the best in town. Digressing, I've come to learn that her lawyer's brother also a lawyer in the same town was put in jail for 10 yrs last fall for 'stealing' money from his clients. He would keep extending his client's court dates to get more money off of them. Interestingly, my ex's lawyer did the same thing. But I digress.

After my exgf scapegoated me over the gauntlet down phone call I gave her when I received the card in August, I googled "ex scapegoats me" and found link after link about BPD and NPD. My ex seemed to be a totally reasonable person. I am completely baffled how she is even out of my life to this day. I have determined no sane person tells someone they love that they are leaving in a typed note in a birthday card no less, then turns around and gives them the silent treatment for being upset about it. At least not one they were with for 9.5 yrs. Furthermore, how someone can love someone so much, purportedly, and then not even discuss wanting to leave and finding a replacement before they're even gone is nothing short of lunacy.

If her actions make no sense then It has to be something else. Caring, sane people don't treat others the way she has treated me. Sadly, I have determined and my therapist agrees, she may be mentally ill.
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2015, 10:05:03 AM »

I used to get stuck in the type of thinking. and I will admit that I still do from time to time. What I do that helps me is I remeber how I came to find out about BPD. I stumbled across the book stop walking on eggshells and It was like I seen a shining light of hope. all my confusion went away. Of course I was still frustrated with her behavior and sometimes when she acted normal I would forget she was BPD. Mine was not diagnosed, but I dont have to have an expert tell me what I see wih my own two eyes. We went to a therapist and the therapist told me based on what I told him and things he saw that he believed she might be BPD.

but lets say shes not for argument sake. her behaviors is not something I want in my life or for the rest of my life in a long term relationship. when I think about that I relaized I dodge a bullet. I think about the misery I felt for 3 years and I remind myself thats what I would have been dealing with for the rest of my life. Her behaviors never improved in 3 years why would I think they would if we got married? They wouldnt have, I would just have been stuck for life. I can only imgaine what her ex husband went thru after he was married to her for 14 years and then they had a child which means he is connected to her for life. As much as I still miss her at times, I have to find relief knowing that I am so much better off.

when i look at my health and finances after just 3 years with this person. I know im so much better off. we have been apart for about 8 months, my savings account and checking account has tripled. I have paid off a huge credit card debt. I once again sleep at night without med, i had a serious medical condition that is brought on by stress which had stopped responding to meds. Once she was out of my life It started respond back to meds. I have to remind myself of all this.
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2015, 12:16:23 PM »

I never, ever second guess wether or not the X has BPD. When i first learned of this mental disorder my jaw dropped as it pretty much described her to a T except for the "cutting" part. It would have been nice if she was normal and we could have lived happily ever after but that was never going to happen. As a matter of fact, i never would have met her if she didn't have BPD because i was a replacement myself. Her behavior after breakup just provides further confirmation. It's been two and a half years and her sucession of relationships has gone like this: boyfriend, boyfriend, fiance, new fiance, baby. I'm sure more disaster looms in the not so distant future.
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2015, 02:05:13 PM »

Willtimeheal,

would it make any difference if your ex didn't have BPD? She'd still be someone with traits that left you feeling like you do and dealing with the aftermath like you are. She'd still be someone whose behavior and actions caused you the amount of pain you've been through and continue to go through... .

It would be all the same, diagnosis with a name or not.
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2015, 08:39:37 AM »

Thanks for the responses. And you are all correct. I do realize and finally accept that I was nothing more than a replacement. And given all her traits and the way she treated me... .I deserve so much more and didn't deserve the treatment I received.

Elpis you asks  if it would make a difference. I am not sure. I don't like when I get stuck in this line of thinking. I know I am a kind honest generous person. I made mistakes in the relationship. I should have told my family about us sooner... .I was a coward. I worked on my issues and I changed and became a strong person who was no longer a coward. But then she left... .I think she liked the coward. When I was a coward she could control me belittle me and she always had an upper hand. But I changed... .I became strong and was no longer afraid of anything.

I love who I am now. And I know I am a good person ... .I am surrounded by good honest kind people who love me for me. I see my qualities now.

Sometimes thou I get that doubt, I am human and knowing she is crazy... yes would just be nice and confirm that it wasn't just me... .although deep down I already know this... .but sometimes it's nice to have that validation directly given Smiling (click to insert in post) 
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2015, 12:22:28 PM »

I know what you mean, Willtimeheal--

I too am a loving and compassionate person, but when I was in a weaker state and just enabling all his bad behavior I was for him a better person. Not for me, I was dying inside.

I've read over and over around the site that we build our boundaries to take care of us, so when someone is stepping all over our faces because they like the way it feels, us saying "get off my face already!" is gonna make us less desirable to them. But at least we don't get toe-jam in our eyes.



(I have trouble with this too, the wanting to know.)
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