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« on: June 22, 2015, 09:05:03 PM »

Since you never know what to expect with them, I was wondering do we have any cases where when a PBD who has dumped their partner out of a blue (cut off all contacts, painted black, etc), then came back wanting to reconcile?

Just wondering. Given their tendency to split into hate and love, and then hate again.

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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2015, 10:02:38 PM »

I am in the process of an ugly divorce .

I was awarded temporary custody of my infant son in August.  My BPD h was ordered to have supervised visits.  We are in the midst of our 2cnd custody eval.  The first one was in my favor so BPD h wanted a new one.

Over the past 9 months he has painted me black to white to black again.

I am holding steady now with no contact.  Its the only way.  Fathers day was the first time we spoke in a month and it was really hard for me.  He took his wedding ring off but despite being emotionally pulverized I am struggling to take that leap.  The periods of idealization are so awesome and feel so real they are downright intoxicating. 

My experience is buyer beware.  All the times he was nice to me he was really using me and exploiting my vulnerability to undermine my position. He offered to let me use his work  van when my car broke down.  I didn't ask him he offered.  I accepted and one month later he is sueing me for stealing his car.  Buyer beware... he told me he likes that I felt comfortable enough to go into his car... .one month later he is accusing me of breaking into his car and stealing 1,000.00.  Lies all lies... I must have airtight rock solid boundaries now. It is the ONLY way... .he or she may paint you white... .just ask yourself what is the motive behind the kindness... .beware
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2015, 09:54:04 AM »

I believe being recycled multiple times it typical.  One way to describe it is a relentless pushing of boundaries.  Each time we got sucked back in the next cycle pushed a little more.  Think of the frog and pot of water illustration.  Drop a frog into a hot pot of water and it will jump out.  Drop it in a pot of water and then heat it gradually and it won't jump out.

However, at some point it goes so far that w end up being rejected or painted black.  Typically when it rises to the level of legal involvement, as happened with me when I called 911, it reaches a threshold of no going back.  It took a couple months but I came to understand that if we reconciled then it would happen again and the next time (1) it would be worse and (2) she would have learned enough to make me look worse than her, something she didn't know to do the first time around.

The divorce took 2 years, then I was in and out of court for another 6 years.  Gradually the court's baby step fixes shifted primary parenting from her to me.  During all that time I was always painted as Mr Evil.

Then last Sunday happened.  She called cursing that I wasn't exchanging son.  He then gave the phone to me.  I had to convince her that our 2/2/5/5 schedule exchanges were Monday, Wednesday and Friday PM.  She gradually calmed down and ended up talking endlessly and I had to end the call after about 45 minutes.  I have to be careful not to let her back into my life, she hasn't recovered from her issues and I don't want to get back on the roller coaster.  We had been married for 15 years before the marriage imploded.  Ten years have passed  Our son still has 5 years until he's an adult so I have to resist relaxing my boundaries.  Sadly, I can't risk close contact.

Back to your topic question... .As for her, she's never tried to come back.  As for me, it is simply too risky to return to a dysfunctional, unhealthy and likely dangerous relationship.  My ex would have to have years of therapy, diligent application and substantive improvements in her entire life.  Ten years apart and nothing yet.  Looking back, the dividing line was when I stood up for myself and my child and by necessity opened our lives to the police, court and evaluators.
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2015, 12:08:07 AM »

Since you never know what to expect with them, I was wondering do we have any cases where when a PBD who has dumped their partner out of a blue (cut off all contacts, painted black, etc), then came back wanting to reconcile?

Just wondering. Given their tendency to split into hate and love, and then hate again.

I was married to my wife 1990 to 1997, when she left without any reason given, with our 2 year old. She had it planned as a trip back home to visit her parents.  Then, never came back.  She filed for divorce in another state, and I was served divorce papers on Christmas Eve.  Merry Divorce-mas.  I was devastated, and heart broken.  I was afraid I'd never see my daughter again.  I loved them both so much, and I was completely alone.  I had to walk by the kid's room filled with toys and princess bedding everyday.  She had never lived there to play with them.  ("We" had moved from San Francisco to Seattle. I went ahead, found a place, moved in.  Unpacked everything in 3 days, and set up our new home.  Wife and daughter came, and stayed less than a week before leaving on a "vacation" to visit my in-laws.  Never came back).

I KNEW they would come back to me.  I was steadfast in pushing for an explanation.  I would not let her (ex-wife) erase me from my daughter's life.  She left the state and this was a violation of child custody agreement of 50 / 50.  So, I called everyday.  Spoke with my toddler on the phone.  It broke my heart- everyday.

Five years later, we reconciled.  We moved back in together in 2004, and we re-married shortly after that.

It was a happy reunion.  I felt like this cold, heartless monster had really changed.  She had been in therapy, she seemed way more mature, and did not rage at me- for over 1 year, there was not a single rage.  We had glorious sex.  All the time, sex.  I was vilified.  I knew she'd be back with me- I couldn't have loved someone so much, and offered so much emotional and financial support without her having some feelings for me.

About 1 1/2 yrs into our second marriage, the BPD started to unfold again.  Sex stopped, and was replaced by emotional and verbal abuse.  Blaming, and attacking all the time.  Rages came back, and were different- they weren't about me being unfaithful (I was never once unfaithful, she just believed I was- every time I left for work was an opportunity to screw co-workers, nurses, or chicks who throw themselves at me).  The rages are different now.  Every bit the psycho rant, just not always about infidelity.  Did I say the sex stopped?  Yes, prior to May of this year, we went three years and had sex once a year.  Who does this?  Act like they can't go 8 hrs without sex, and then turn the tables and call their husband sexually repulsive and become a celibate nun in a marriage with a sexual hostage as a husband?  A woman with BPD- that's who.

So, yes-- it happens.  People with BPD can leave and come back.  They can and do stay in a monogamous marriage for decades.

It has been 25 years now, since we first met.  We've been married twice, and have a daughter from each of our 2 marriages.  A 18 year old is leaving for college soon, and a nearly 7 year old.

I am working on an exit plan now.  I have gone too long without a mutually satisfying sex life with another human being and I am turning into an angry fat ass because of it.

It is so hard to untangle the web of enmeshment, but I've come a long way with the help of my Psychiatrist of 4.5 years.  I can do this- leave.  I can do it.

I find myself ruminating the following phrase over and over in my head, and sometimes out loud in the car by myself:

"I can't take this anymore"

"I can't take this anymore"

"I can't take this anymore"

"All work, and no play... ."

Love,

Surg_Bear
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2015, 07:48:52 AM »

My psychologist opened up to me a bit about a few things.

His first ex-wife has BPD (diagnosed by him a long time ago, and by professionals about 4 years ago)  

After getting on a plane and going overseas with their less than one year old and 2 other failed marriages outside of her marriage to him, being dragged back by the courts, he had moved on and had a new family and a child in that marriage.  It wasn't the most civil separation if you get the jist. 

His current wife got an opportunity to work overseas for 4 months within her company at the tie.  She took the opportunity and was gone for 4 months with him looking after their 9 or 10 year old son at the time.  He never told his first ex wife why she went overseas or any other information, not her business.  She picked up on the absence of the competition. 

She assumed he was available, vulnerable and started inviting herself over for dinner and trying to hit on him etc. etc.  

His word or warning, whenever she thinks your vulnerable (even if your not) and she will have control over you or dominance in the situation, she will become available again.  While you are strong and independent of her, your the devil.  SHe sniffs a weakness that makes her top dog she will paint you white again for her own purposes.  They always come back.  

When emotions are like the tide they come in ebs and flows.  Just be wary of the king tide when it comes back to bite you.  


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