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HurtinNW
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« on: December 17, 2015, 10:39:46 PM »

Hello all

I posted here some time ago about my significant other with BPD and NPD symptoms. It's been a horribly chaotic, hurtful four years of off and on. He's broken up with more times than I can count. Each time I vow it is the last. Each time I try again. This past year we have been apart more than together. The last time he saw my kids was six months ago when he raged and stormed off, once again. Since then we have reconnected, but I have kept the kids out of it for their emotional well-being.

The first six months of our relationship I thought I had found my soul mate. Then the rejection started, the devaluation, the rages, interspersed with kindness and love that still feels very real to me. I've played my role in the chaos. I have a dx of PTSD due to severe childhood sexual abuse. For many years it was in remission. After a 15 year relationship ended, I suffered several losses, including the loss of a child. That put me in a tailspin and my PTSD came out. Then I got into this relationship. His anger and devaluation triggers my abandonment panic and PTSD, and my panic triggers his symptoms. We have gotten into a terrible cycle of one of us spinning out—usually him, but at times me too.

I've tried to end things so many times, but have lost faith in myself. Going NC doesn't work for me. I panic. So I decided to keep trying. Though I wonder at myself. What am I getting out of this? He isn't a father figure to my kids, he blows up at me, and the amount of intimacy he gives me dwindles more over time. It is more the hope, and the deep love for him, that keeps me trying. And the panic when he is gone. I truly do love him. He has so many amazing attributes.

Recently we reconnected. Things seemed to be going well. Then he dropped the bombshell on me: he is probably going to be taking a job out of town. The job is seven hours away.

He says he wants to have a LDR. I've looked at all the practicalities and it can't work. There's no way I can travel to him, due to work and kids, and his job will keep him tied up in his new town. Basically if he moves it is the end. The only way it would "work" is if we rarely or never see each other. I know this would be fine with him. He is intimacy phobic and I believe the rages and leaving have to do with him getting the distance he needs. Leaving is the perfect answer to his push-pull: he can pretend he is having a relationship without actually having a relationship.

I understand intellectually why he wants this job. He's been unemployed for two years. I also see him making the same kind of rash decisions I've watched him make with me: pie in the sky dreaming that never works out. He isn't considering the impact not just on me but on his family members and others. He seems to think he is just going to move to this small town and everything will be peachy. I feel terribly hurt and rejected and abandoned.

He is "deciding" whether to take this job or stay and try to work things out with me. That alone feels like a punch to the stomach. After all the chaos he has caused, the hurt feelings, the pain, he is deciding whether to make a permanent discard. It hurts.

I am deeply afraid that if he leaves I will shake apart into a million pieces. This relationship has triggered every deep fear in me and I cannot imagine it really ending for good.

I don't know what to do. I cannot picture having a meaningful relationship with him so far away. I cannot picture losing him and handling the grief. I feel lost. I would appreciate any advice you have.


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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2015, 12:44:51 PM »

Are you in therapy for yourself?
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2015, 07:51:49 PM »

Are you in therapy for yourself?

Yes, I am! I have a great therapist. I can tell she would really like me out of this relationship. It is very difficult.
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2015, 07:56:01 PM »

Are you in therapy for yourself?

Yes, I am! I have a great therapist. I can tell she would really like me out of this relationship. It is very difficult.

You will be fine. So will I.  Doing the right thing (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2015, 10:34:44 AM »

Hi HurtinNW

The intense bonds we form during our relationships create a plethora of difficult to sort through feelings.   I know for me there were a lot of things in play.

I've tried to end things so many times, but have lost faith in myself. Going NC doesn't work for me. I panic. So I decided to keep trying.

I noticed this is what you wrote.   All of us have many reasons for staying or rekindling a relationship with a pwBPD.   I was apart from my partner for a while after a particularly difficult year back in 2013.    We have reconnected and the relationship is no longer filled with cycles you describe.    It took us about a year to get to a point where I can say we are stable.   Every once and a while, (about 5 times this year) a small dysregulation breaks out that lasts about a day and we work our way through it.   

I had to very carefully consider what 'trying' meant to me.   In the Lessons Box on the right hand side of the screen  is  a link that talks about the what does it take to be in a relationship with a borderline.  I would encourage you to read it.   For me the phrase that strikes a cord  is this one:

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You will need the strength to be able to emotionally detach at times from your SO, to be able to separate his/her issues from your own, and to not take personally the behavior of your SO. You need a very strong sense of identity and worth in yourself.

I can see why him taking a job seven hours away would come as a shock.   Another upheaval in relationship already too full of them.  I can also see the temptation of having a job when he has been out of work for 2 years.   That's a long period of unemployment.

He is "deciding" whether to take this job or stay and try to work things out with me. That alone feels like a punch to the stomach. After all the chaos he has caused, the hurt feelings, the pain, he is deciding whether to make a permanent discard. It hurts.

I am deeply afraid that if he leaves I will shake apart into a million pieces. This relationship has triggered every deep fear in me and I cannot imagine it really ending for good.

I don't know what to do. I cannot picture having a meaningful relationship with him so far away. I cannot picture losing him and handling the grief. I feel lost. I would appreciate any advice you have.

You have a lot invested in this relationship.   It has been on tender hooks for some time.  It's natural to feel a strong sense of loss around the situation you are describing.     

Here are my two cents for what they are worth.   If you feel that you can make a decision to stay for now,  or for the next two weeks or what ever time frame works for you and a commitment to work the Lessons and Tools HERE;  boil things down to a more manageable set of parameters.    Change the mindset from how can I save this relationship for ever, to what can I do today to make things go better between us for this 24 hour piece of time.     Break the 'problem' into smaller subsets.   To misquote,  try to live through this day only,  and not tackle entire life problems all at once.   There are a lot of variables in play here.     In my experience managing the small ones makes handling the big ones easier.

what do you think?   make any sense?

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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2015, 09:52:36 PM »

Thank you babyducks!

I recently posted on the leaving board as well, which shows you how confused I am. I do struggle with my reactivity as well as his behavior. Am I strong enough in myself to handle this? I don't know. I do love him so much. I am also very hurt by his behaviors.

He recently found out he did not get the job. I feel terrible for him. His unemployment is really hard for him. He got a lot of identity from work: it bolstered his fragile ego. Without work he sinks into depressions, and his symptoms are much worse. His fear of engulfment is particularly high right now.

There is so much about this person I love. That's a real thing. So is his BPD/NPD symptoms. And my PTSD. I so appreciate your advice. It is very wise and kind. I am trying to break this down into shorter times. Especially now because as hard as the thought of him moving was, watching his heartbreak and distress at not getting the job is even worse. I know it will come out against me, too.

Thanks again. I am so, so glad I found this place.
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2015, 10:26:04 AM »

Now, if only we could show ourselves as much compassion as we do our BPD SO. 
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