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Author Topic: 5 Months Later Still Feeling Guilt and Shame  (Read 485 times)
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« on: March 28, 2016, 11:43:15 AM »

I've posted about my story a couple of times, but the short version is I chose to leave my exBpd after a 2.5 year relationship. There were all of the red flags from the beginning but the last 3-4 months of our relationship it got really bad to the point where I feared for my safety. She would repeatedly rage against me physically and emotionally in both public and private settings.

I left 5 months ago and stayed away from her and then after a month decided to end the relationship permanently. I've tried to maintain NC, but I haven't done a great job. We lived together so I was forced to communicate regarding moving, lease, etc. We saw each other a few times and it was nice and normal. She's been reaching out over the past few months apologizing for everything, telling me she is getting treatment, describing how much better she is doing, etc. She's repeatedly said now that she/we knows what the issues are we can work together to improve them and we should get back together because she knows she can make me happy.

In the meantime I have moved on and I've started dating someone new. It's been a great experience so far, and I think my new relationship has a lot of potential to last long term. However, my ex is moving across country in a few weeks and she's been reaching out a lot more lately saying she wants us to be good and just wants to see me before she leaves and then she will leave me alone for good. I've politely declined her requests and then she tells me how cruel I am, how can I do this to her, how could I say I would love her forever, etc.

It's been nearly 5 months and I still feel guilt, sadness, and shame when I think about it, and it's affecting my new relationship and other areas of my life in general. I'm starting to go to therapy, but I guess I'm wondering how longs these feelings will last? Is it normal to still feel this amount of shame and sadness even after 5 months of being broken up?
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2016, 11:57:39 AM »

Is it normal to still feel this amount of shame and sadness even after 5 months of being broken up?

yes. especially when you are still in close proximity to the hot and cold push/pull of:

She's been reaching out over the past few months apologizing for everything, telling me she is getting treatment, describing how much better she is doing, etc. She's repeatedly said now that she/we knows what the issues are we can work together to improve them and we should get back together because she knows she can make me happy.

followed by:

and then she tells me how cruel I am, how can I do this to her, how could I say I would love her forever, etc.

im neither discouraging nor encouraging contact with this person, but i do recommend setting a boundary around these conversations.

great step to start therapy. this is hard stuff 
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2016, 12:05:38 PM »

It sounds like you moved into a new serious r/s very quickly. Do you think you were ready? Would there be a benefit for you to resolving things in person with your ex?
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2016, 12:47:50 PM »

It sounds like you moved into a new serious r/s very quickly. Do you think you were ready? Would there be a benefit for you to resolving things in person with your ex?

Yes you are right, I did move into a new relationship rather quickly, and while I probably could have used more time to myself, it's been a very rewarding relationship so far. I've tried resolving things in person with my ex, and every time I think we are good she starts trying to make me feel guilty after some time has passed. My biggest struggle is overcoming the guilt because it did happen suddenly and I finally just left and never came back after telling her I'd always be there and we would work through it. Once I learned more about BPD I couldn't go back because I realized how destructive it all really was.
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2016, 01:13:46 PM »

It sounds like you moved into a new serious r/s very quickly. Do you think you were ready? Would there be a benefit for you to resolving things in person with your ex?

Yes you are right, I did move into a new relationship rather quickly, and while I probably could have used more time to myself, it's been a very rewarding relationship so far. I've tried resolving things in person with my ex, and every time I think we are good she starts trying to make me feel guilty after some time has passed. My biggest struggle is overcoming the guilt because it did happen suddenly and I finally just left and never came back after telling her I'd always be there and we would work through it. Once I learned more about BPD I couldn't go back because I realized how destructive it all really was.

So you've given it a shot, resolving it in person... .so that isn't something you need to feel... .unresolved about. Good.

As for the promises that are making you feel guilty: many of us say these things--"I will always be there" type things. But there is always an implicit condition, and really, all of us who are grown-ups know this. "I will always be there for you" really means "I will be there for you unless it means sacrificing my sanity and safety and [fill in what is a deal-breaker for you]." We are not in a romance novel. We are people trying to live our lives.

You could stick to the letter of the law and continue to "be there" for her to assuage your guilt, but it would only be a technical observance of the promise. Because the r/s was eroding you. Eventually there would be no you to be there for her or anyone else. Your ex might not ever get this, but eventually you will.

As for moving on quickly: I mentioned it because you said all this was taking a toll on your new relationship. Have you been able to talk about that?

So you asked, "How long will these feelings of guilt last?"

I felt a lot of guilt for a long time and still do. My situation is complicated and not worth getting into, but briefly: my r/s was an affair (guilt!), and my ex spent a long time trying to get me to leave someone else for him (more guilt!). Rather than decide he didn't want to wait for me, he spent a year or so applying subtle and not so subtle guilt tactics to me, which contributed even more toxicity and trauma-bonding to the r/s. Then he secretly got into a new relationship. When he told me about it, he let me know he blamed me for all the suffering he'd been through in our relationship. Essentially, his position seemed to be that I had held him captive in some way, so all the pain was my fault. More guilt, even though I'd been dumped. I spent a long time feeling I'd victimized him, because that was what he wanted me to think.

What I'm saying is, intentionally or not, he was a guilt-deflecting machine in a situation that was already rotten with guilt.

Worked hard in therapy. Began to see that this is far from the first situation in which I have taken on all the guilt and blame. That has helped me get past some of the guilt with respect to my ex, but it also exposed the cracks.

So... .are the shame and guilt gone after a year+ of NC and therapy? No. But they are no longer artificially attached to my ex.

Okay, another question for you: are these feelings of guilt and shame that are tormenting you... .familiar in any way? Have you felt like this in other relationships?
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2016, 01:56:41 PM »

Okay, obviously this is a hot topic for me.

Another thought I had is that I wonder if you feel pretty solid about what your contribution to the problems in the relationship were. I mean, like, a self-inventory. You will probably find that, once you've owned up to your responsibilities, you are being way too hard on yourself.

I've written a few letters of apology to my ex--one that I sent and several others that I didn't. It's interesting how writing it all down always leaves me feeling less guilt and shame. Even just trying to articulate the things he's let me know he blames me for is instructive. I find that it's impossible to tell the story as it actually happened and hold onto my sense of overwhelming guilt.

For me, that's the secret reason that holding myself accountable has been so important. The accounts can be off in either direction: taking too little responsibility or too much. It is actually, I think, a kind of covert grandiosity, when you think about it.
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