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VIDEO: "What is parental alienation?" Parental alienation is when a parent allows a child to participate or hear them degrade the other parent. This is not uncommon in divorces and the children often adjust. In severe cases, however, it can be devastating to the child. This video provides a helpful overview.
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« on: April 02, 2016, 07:54:00 AM »

Has anybody used the Gray Rock method instead of the No Contact method?
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2016, 08:59:08 AM »

Has anybody used the Gray Rock method instead of the No Contact method?

I think that I was intermittently using Gray Rock in the last couple of months of contact with my ex (without really knowing that I was doing it) ... .and it really drove her nuts. Suddenly she "didn't know me" and I was "withholding". I guess it depends on your goals and situation.
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2016, 09:38:39 AM »

I tried, but my ex has such self-referential thoughts that it is darn near impossible.

At the last gathering I attended with him, I sat far away, made no eye contact, and paid no attention to him at all.  Then I signed up to attend another gathering with him, planning to grey rock him again, but he said the very fact that I wanted to be in his presence was evidence that I was a "psycho stalker."  There is no gray rock with this man.  Now I just avoid him.  He has told my friends he never wants to come to a party with us again, so I'm going for NC now.
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2016, 10:26:50 AM »

Grey Rock is a substitute expression for ... no emotional response.

... 'emotional creatures' ... not theirs, yours ... the energy they get from invoking yours.

If you remain unmoved by anything they say or do so for long enough ... they'll move on ... because they can't extract an emotional response/reaction.

@MapleBob ... being accused of being a 'psycho stalker' is a pretty big affront to someone that is not ... so, if you're not a 'psycho stalker' ... the chances are that you'll want to refute it (defend yourself). In doing so you give an emotional response to the accuser and ... splish, splash, splosh ... emotional energy to the accuser. If you don't/didn't react/respond (which I suspect) ... what was the response? ... .he tells people he doesn't want to be in your presence at parties again (because you see him for what he is ... ).

Everyone imagines it's because there's something wrong with you due to his words (which are empty) and jumps to self defence ... needlessly.

They're not a full shilling ... mental dis ... ease or not.



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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2016, 10:46:07 AM »

I did before I went NC.

He tried to get at me with all kinds of hurtful remarks, almost always said to others but loud enough for me to hear and mostly accompanied with a devilish smirk (over his shoulder) in my direction. Me not giving any emotional response and keeping a straight poker face angered him a lot. Not being able to get a response from me angered him so much I think it was one of the reasons for him to extend his smear campaign of me. "If I can't get to you myself I'll make sure there will be so many others involved you can't breathe anymore for isolation and gossip" strategy.
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2016, 11:01:32 AM »

@MapleBob ... being accused of being a 'psycho stalker' is a pretty big affront to someone that is not ... so, if you're not a 'psycho stalker' ... the chances are that you'll want to refute it (defend yourself). In doing so you give an emotional response to the accuser and ... splish, splash, splosh ... emotional energy to the accuser. If you don't/didn't react/respond (which I suspect) ... what was the response? ... .he tells people he doesn't want to be in your presence at parties again (because you see him for what he is ... ).

I'm guessing that this was intended for me.  He didn't accuse me to my face, but in e-mails to mutual friends.  As far as I know, the mutual friend did not respond to the e-mail at all.  I have not responded, of course.  I have ignored him completely, and all of his tantrums.  I think he legitimately believes that I'm stalking him -- paranoia is another one of his typical behaviors -- and he tends to cut off people who don't agree with his paranoid thoughts.  Is this delusional projection?  Maybe, but I can't tell for sure.  According to mutual friends, he may have even reported me to county authorities.  If he hasn't, he has come close.

He has upped the ante a bit by posting ostentatious messages about  Smiling (click to insert in post) Smiling (click to insert in post) Smiling (click to insert in post) HOW MUCH FUN!  Smiling (click to insert in post) Smiling (click to insert in post) Smiling (click to insert in post) he is having with his new "group" of "friends" on social media where all of us can see it.  Which means, he doesn't even hang out with the same people every week, eats dinner with a group of strangers, and is trying to convince us all that he's moved on and is having a great time.  A lot of the people he claims as his new "friends" are people who know me and know what happened -- but he is blissfully unaware of this.  Even last night he was posting online about how  Smiling (click to insert in post) Smiling (click to insert in post) Smiling (click to insert in post) AWESOME!  Smiling (click to insert in post) Smiling (click to insert in post) Smiling (click to insert in post) it was to see them all.  Ha.  I can't quite figure out what the endgame is with doing all of that, but it seems that he simultaneously wants to view me as a stalker and wants to be chased.
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