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« on: April 14, 2016, 07:31:57 PM »

I wanted to ask something, any opinions on why my exBPDgf wants to harm me by saying I raped her?

I assume it was to win her new bfs sympathy or painting me black?

I know no one knows but I'm curious as to why she would do this knowing it will come out with our son someday, I see it as her only hurting herself, her new bf will discover the truth as well?

And as I'm typing I hear WoundedBibis words,... .because she's mentally ill, Laugh out loud (click to insert in post)

Duh Becky!

I'm sitting here bored so Smiling (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2016, 01:29:34 AM »

JerryRG,

An accusation of rape is a very serious charge ... would you agree?

For clarity of thought ... .

Because you are here, on this forum after the relationship experience that you've had, I assume that it is a false accusation.

If she had told you this, in the early stages of your relationship during the idealisation phase, how would you have reacted? Would you have been shocked? Would it have triggered that part of you that wants to be protective? Would you have felt sympathetic?

What would she have gained from you by telling you this? Could it be a 'knight in shining armour'? How would you have felt about the previous boyfriend?

Is it possible, having been presented with this unproven accusation, her new boyfriend might feel the same as you would? And, would he be encouraged to be protective too ... what is her gain? What is she gaining from all of this drama?

Upon who, after this accusation has been made, does the spotlight of inquiry fall? On you?

For what purpose? It takes the spotlight off her, in terms of any wrong doing, and places it firmly on you. She can now bask in the wonderful sympathetic attention of others by playing the victim!

Someone, knowing that the truth of such a false accusation, will eventually come out, wouldn't falsely accuse. Would they? She is reacting and living 'for' the moment ... not 'in' the moment.

She might very well be hurting herself, in reference to what other people will think of her in light of the truth. But, this accusation is designed to hurt you ... yet you still focus on her hurting herself before considering the damage it will do to you.

Mental illness isn't funny Jerry and that you say you are 'bored' is a sign, for me, that you are looking for attention and drama.

If I was in your situation I would follow the legal channels in which to secure access rights to your child and have all communication go through a lawyer/solicitor. I would then seek minimal contact (which can be witnessed by someone non partial) until that process is complete. And, I would not discuss, or be drawn into, any post analysis of the relationship with her. This isn't the time for that and will potentially, make matters worse and, possibly backfire on you.

She has launched a pretty nasty attack on your character JerryRG and if I were you (BPD or no) ... I would tread very carefully.

Best wishes.
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2016, 04:00:10 AM »

Yes I do agree that her accusations are serious and in a way it did frighten me. She has brought this up with so many other men in the past and it was just a few weeks after she claims this happend we were engaged to be married.

The reason I referred to being board was I have asked about this subject several times but I still didn't understand what or why she would use this same threat with me. Doesn't she realise she's crying wolf just like her cries for suicide? Eventually no one will listen when something bad does happen.

I thought people her in these forums are getting tired of my asking questions so I referred to being borded.

There's so much I'm trying to understand and yet I cannot.

I laugh because I can't believe pwBPD and then I feel so ashamed I didn't listen to people who told me she was mentally ill, why? Why did I continue to put myself in constant danger?

I guess it boils down to I cannot get myself to believe she fooled me or I fooled myself like this. And mental health officials, police, social services and her family all know because I've told them about her behaviours yet they do absolutely nothing.
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2016, 04:59:49 AM »

Yes I do agree that her accusations are serious and in a way it did frighten me. She has brought this up with so many other men in the past and it was just a few weeks after she claims this happend we were engaged to be married.

The reason I referred to being board was I have asked about this subject several times but I still didn't understand what or why she would use this same threat with me. Doesn't she realise she's crying wolf just like her cries for suicide? Eventually no one will listen when something bad does happen.

I thought people her in these forums are getting tired of my asking questions so I referred to being borded.

There's so much I'm trying to understand and yet I cannot.

I laugh because I can't believe pwBPD and then I feel so ashamed I didn't listen to people who told me she was mentally ill, why? Why did I continue to put myself in constant danger?

I guess it boils down to I cannot get myself to believe she fooled me or I fooled myself like this. And mental health officials, police, social services and her family all know because I've told them about her behaviours yet they do absolutely nothing.

If you have evidence that she has accused other men of this it will help you immensely. If you don't have evidence it at least gives you some insight into her pathology.

To try to 'get a handle on things' ... you need to let go of the idea that she thinks about things like you do. Or, for that matter, like most people that sit within the bell curve of what is viewed as 'normal'.

Quite simply ... she uses this method because it works. She gets sympathy, she gets to shift blame for wrong doing and she gets people to fight for her on her behalf. So, she gets to absolve herself of responsibility, accountability and avoids criticism. Until this method stops working she'll keep using it because there is no reason to change.

Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on who's perspective you're looking from, there'll always be people she will target that will look sympathetically from her stand point. Until they finally see behind the mask ... which takes time.

There's a lot of 'talk' about people with these traits and how they 'choose' a particular type. That type, pop-psychology would have us all believe, are people with strong empathic, co-dependent and even narcissistic traits. Which makes it sound like anyone who becomes involved with them is fundamentally and deeply flawed too. But this simply isn't the case. Evidence shows that anyone can become drawn to and become involved with them. They adapt themselves (short term) to be what the other is looking for in order to attract and form an attachment. Their hope is that this 'new relationship' will be the answer to all their woes. And, initially, it is. But, because the relationship is founded on a falsity ... it has no real foundation upon which to grow into a deeper, more emotionally fulfilling connection. So, it fails.

In the beginning, because she showed herself to be what you were looking for, you no doubt poured a huge amount of your time and energy making her feel adored, admired, loved and attended to. It was this that she wanted and whilst you maintained that she idealised you from her point of view. As the relationship progressed and you noticed and voiced some concerns, she took this as criticism and began to devalue you. Because, like a faulty appliance you stopped delivering attention, adoration, admiration and love (in her eyes) and she 'needed' to get it from somewhere/someone else (a new shiny appliance). Now, she's not only getting that positive attention from the new boyfriend but she's also getting negative attention from you and is feeling powerful that she can still affect you. She's living in your head but not paying any rent and getting a huge amount of attention from everyone.

It was the way you made her feel that made her feel good about herself. That's her need (with anyone). Unfortunately, you were not able to keep up this unsustainable level of attention because that's not really how healthy relationships work, endure and deepen.

So, I would steer yourself away from feelings of shame for not listening to warnings from other people or that you overlooked some red flags.

Why you 'put yourself in constant danger' will have to be worked out by you ... and accepting that a lot of us here ask ourselves the same questions surrounding being 'fooled' or 'duped'... it's a natural consequence to self reflect and you can take responsibility for your part. But please don't shoulder any responsibility for her actions ... that's her bag.

If I may also say Jerry ... officials, because they don't fully appreciate the truth without evidence will treat your attempts to question her character as a reflection of your negative feelings about being discarded in the awful way that you have been. Which is why they are often reticent about 'doing anything' on your say so.

You might have to come to terms with trying to be patient and doing the right thing for you and your child without publically attacking her. As the story about the 'boy who cried wolf' goes ... the truth will come out in the end ... so why not just let the story unfold by itself. If you can commit to yourself that adopting LC is going to make you stronger, less confused by interactions with her ... then you'll be doing yourself a huge service.

Caley.

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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2016, 07:03:22 AM »

The reason that she said this is because most likely you ask for sex at a time that she did not want it. If you ask for it more than once and she did it just for you in her mind then you raped her. She wouldn't see it as just being nice to you. This is a common reason for someone with BPD to say this. I had my ex said the same thing she would bring up sex then go to the bedroom then change your mind in a few minutes which I thought was psychotic and then I would bring up didn't you just say that you wanted to do this and I would get mad that she would keep playing this game. And I knew something was terribly wrong. At first you're just like fine forget about it it's not that important we don't have to do anything. After about the 10th or 15th time you call them out on this nonsense because it is nonsense and all of a sudden they feel pressured or that they have to do something and then once they do now you're a rapist. There's nothing you can do about this except be vigilant early on because there are plenty of men in jail for similar things. My motto now is I just left the girl initiate everything and if she doesn't I'll just go without. In your ex's mind she probably believes that you did something to her. I dated more than one BPD the first one was the false accuser type. The last one I never ever pressured her or talked about anything like this and she never once called me abusive or said anything during or since our relationship I ever made her feel uncomfortable or anything. But I learned the hard way not to talk about wanting sex at all with a BPD. You just are trying to apply logic to the situation and you can't
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2016, 08:07:24 AM »

Thanks everyone

My son and I are priority one from now on.

My next question is can a pwBPD parent on any consistent level?

And as for my exBPDgf, 5, now 6 accusations of rape, when we first met she wanted to visit a guy in Denver, she said he raped her. She made comments about having to sleep in parks and guys would attack her, most of her past relationships were abusive. So much history of abuse, she was forced to have sex with an older guy that eventually tried killing her, still after 4 years with her I never seen any legal trail or any evidence.

And she did something early on that scared me but again I brushed it off, she asked me to squeeze her wrist to see how strong I was, I did and a few days later she showed me some tiny bruises I gave her and said she could tell the police I did it and get me in trouble.

Fool fool fool, everyone warned me but I still held out hope or maybe maybe denial?

I feel sorry for her bf, he's going to be chewed up and spit out!

Working on myself to understand why I would be attracted to BPD and stay in an extremely dangerous and toxic mess.

Thanks again everyone, and thank God I told her to get lost back in Nov. I finally had enough awareness of the madness

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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2016, 12:27:33 PM »

Update

Found out yesterday from a credible source that my exBPDgf has made 3 other eligations lately that I was unaware of. I'm not sure how many times she's been attacked and I've lost count.

So sad.
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