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Nikitty17

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« on: August 12, 2017, 09:23:13 PM »

So my BPDw and I have been together over eight years and I still have trouble explaining to both my family and hers why things are the way they are. It's hard to explain to my family why I stay with her when they see her as needy and unable to work. They see her as a gold digger but I know so much more. My friends start seeing her this way because I vent frustrations to them but I still have trouble helping them understand that she's this beautiful, caring and loving person. That yes, she has things that aren't like me or them but that they aren't always to the extreme. She's been in therapy since October of last year and it's been a journey. She's loved it and learned a lot. I didn't like the changes at first, especially in the ways we communicated but then I realized it helped. What I didn't do was learn how to communicate back. Learn what I needed, get into therapy myself so even during this time, there have been periods of invalidation, fighting and feeling abandoned. Sometimes I feel alone when trying ot talk to those around me about what is happening because their answer is just, she needs to get over it and not feel that way. You've done nothing wrong but they fail to take into consideration any of the agreements we have in place regarding her BPD and say us having them is her controlling me. How have you guys talked with friends and family about the extra measures taken to work with and support your partner? How do you help people see the difference between control/abuse and mutual agreements? It's all very isolating.
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2017, 07:04:34 AM »

Hi Nikitty17

It is very Isolating, that's why I need to be here, mostly. I/we let down friends and family constantly, and I can't explain anything, because her diagnosis is a secret she asked me to keep. My closest friends and family know she has Anorexia, so sometimes I try to relate what she does to that. But mostly, it is very frustrating.

Can you disclose her diagnosis? You love someone, and you are taking care of someone with a disability, as her disability is emotional, people are not used to show or feel compasion towards them. But if she had chronic pain, or was a burnt victim, or was in a wheelchair, no one would judge you so harsly.

I feel your anguish, and I hope someone has some useful tips for us.
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2017, 08:10:23 AM »

Hi folks, I can relate to the isolation as well. I have always been pretty private about my relationships, my entire life. I don't like to tell anyone in my family about the stuff I deal with, just keep up a privacy shield. But now I am totally isolated from them on this stuff. Thing is, they would probably help, if they could. But I just really prefer my privacy, always have. I think I feel safer in some way and I don't want them to worry or have to deal with an ongoing drama or to make my problem any bigger by bringing more people into it. Sigh. But the price is very high! I have learned that you have to be careful talking with friends too. They all tell you to run for your life and then that is all they focus on about you whenever you talk. It shocks people. They don't understand. Again, more isolation. Here at least you can share peer to peer. We all struggle with these issues to one degree or another. I am glad for at least having this in my life. I feel more understanding here than I've ever felt before with such issues.

Is your partner preventing you from disclosing these issues to your family and friends? Or is this your own choice? Or both? Or you just haven't found the right words yet? Is it possible for you to introduce them to the idea of emotional dysregulation? That might sound a little more neutral and less scary for folks who know nothing about this stuff and who would tell you to run for your life. I know it is hard. You want them to understand that you are dealing with something complex, that this is a person you love, but who has a serious health issue that is hard to see or understand.

One thing I used to explain to my partner is that I found a nice website that gives me helpful information about this illness. (He was/is paranoid and weird about it.) But anyway one thing I said to help make he worry less, I think, about looking on here is I told him that what is great about this site is that they have a policy of no one being allowed to tell others to run. I think that makes him see that I am just seeking information, not trying to run away from him. He fears that.

But for you, you might introduce this concept into your offline contacts. I mean, tell folks you believe your partner has emotional dysregulation and you have been learning about this illness (or simply "issue". You can say one of the best things about this site is (hint hint) they have a policy of not telling others to run away from the relationship, especially for those (like you) who are looking for ways to improve the relationship. You can tell people that yes, she seems difficult and you understand why they might see things the way they do, but that you have compassion and love for your partner and you want to understand her illness and work with it. You do this as a conscious choice because you see illness as illness, and you hope your efforts can make a difference. It is hard, but you might have luck setting this boundary with them - that they listen, but not encourage you to leave her while you are focusing on improving things. I dunno. That's all I got! Smiling (click to insert in post)

I think just putting this information into basic terms for folks might help. Think of it as getting them on your support team, and you need your support team to have good working information. Maybe there are even links or things you can print out to show them? This is it not something a person can simply "get over" or "not feel" you might want to emphasize. Compare it to diabetes or other illnesses that one can try to manage, but will always have.

What agreements do you have that make others say you are being controlled if I may ask? Do you have certain things set up between the two of you to make life more manageable that you've learned work for you two?

Wishing you the best! Smiling (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2017, 09:00:39 AM »

So my BPDw and I have been together over eight years and I still have trouble explaining to both my family and hers why things are the way they are. It's hard to explain to my family why I stay with her when they see her as needy and unable to work. They see her as a gold digger but I know so much more. My friends start seeing her this way because I vent frustrations to them but I still have trouble helping them understand that she's this beautiful, caring and loving person. That yes, she has things that aren't like me or them but that they aren't always to the extreme. She's been in therapy since October of last year and it's been a journey. She's loved it and learned a lot. I didn't like the changes at first, especially in the ways we communicated but then I realized it helped. What I didn't do was learn how to communicate back. Learn what I needed, get into therapy myself so even during this time, there have been periods of invalidation, fighting and feeling abandoned. Sometimes I feel alone when trying ot talk to those around me about what is happening because their answer is just, she needs to get over it and not feel that way. You've done nothing wrong but they fail to take into consideration any of the agreements we have in place regarding her BPD and say us having them is her controlling me. How have you guys talked with friends and family about the extra measures taken to work with and support your partner? How do you help people see the difference between control/abuse and mutual agreements? It's all very isolating.

I experience the same thing with my family my mom says "he makes you cry so often and frustrates you so much you deserve better" of course hearing that makes me more frustrated than he does at times. I have a degree in psych so it makes it a tad bit easier for me to explain to my family and friends what's really going on... .but none the less some of them still don't understand and think i should just walk away and find someone that doesn't have BPD. I'm honest with them and i say "so your relationship never has misunderstandings or conflict? yours is perfect?" They seem to be quiet after that.

Let's be honest here no relationship is perfect even ones with out personality or mood disorders, heck most of the ones i see without it are worse. I was built to be with my BPDbf and i know it. Not just to take the rages have him say sorry and let them go but to help him get better and make progress and to understand himself and to show him there is someone out there to take time to listen to him and help him and not walk away. I have actually entertained the idea of bringing my parents to therapy with us so they can be explained by an outsider what's going on

His family is a lost cause on so many levels. I am completely alienated from them (other than gifts and cards on holidays) he says he does this because he wants no ties to them. At first this upset me but knowing the kind of people they are it may be for the best.

Bottom line some people don't want to understand the unfamiliar or something they aren't directly dealing with. I have 3 close friends that i can go to with no judgement or the "just find better" line. My other friends i keep the details from because i don't need negativity. I am very strong minded and I will not allow anyone to dictate what should and shouldn't be done to help the man i love.

All you can do is do your best to explain to them the depths of BPD maybe suggest that they read some books on it so they can educate themselves if they aren't willing to listen or to learn then (in my opinion) they aren't worth listening to when they have an opinion. You need a support system as well. I wish you luck
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