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« on: June 01, 2018, 12:16:48 PM »

Hi Everyone,

I believe that my mother has an undiagnosed BPD. I have acted like her best friend my whole life. I need her approval for everything.

There are too many issues to write about, but my major upset is when she 'goes off on me' then 'cuts me off' until I basically beg for her forgiveness and agree that I am a major problem in her life. This situation happens about twice a year and can last for about 2-4 months. During this time my siblings stay away from me or 'don't want to get in the middle of the drama' (because when I'm on the outs they are on the ins) and my dad avoids me because I am causing conflict with my mom (which is bad for him too).

Basically I become isolated from everyone and I spend most of my time worrying, wondering, ruminating over the situation. I hate this because it makes me less present with my children, makes me more short tempered, messes with my marriage because I just can't seem to get over it.

I joined therapy in September 2017 with the intent of 'stopping this from happening' or 'making it easier to cope with.' I have moved away from her (used to be neighbors because she wanted me close... .YES she would cut me off even when I lived very close to her in a very small town) and have been working on boundaries. Which included:
-less contact (I decided 1 phone call weekly and 1 on weekend-- used to be everyday multiple times a day)
-Visiting every couple of weeks, She wants every week... .
-not over sharing or asking for too much advice without being prepare for negatives and criticisms.

But this has not worked yet. She harasses me almost every conversation. Where am I? Why am I doing this too her? What's wrong with me? Not so much in a 'I care about you' way but more of a 'pissed off because your not doing what I want you too way'

When she cuts me off I can't cope with it. It seems like the meanest thing. I have been the perfect child for her, but it don't matter how good I am I still get the wrath.

Lately she says:
"you have a mental illness and always have had something wrong about you... "
"how could you do this to your sweet little kids. Keeping them from their grandmother. I have rights to them."
"You are never happy unless everyone's life is upside down."

Basically, I am writing for emotional support so that I can find strength and not burden my husband (or children) with my constant mother drama... .
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2018, 02:12:48 PM »

Hi Kermit and Welcome

I believe that my mother has an undiagnosed BPD. I have acted like her best friend my whole life. I need her approval for everything.

I doubt your mother has treated you like a "best friend", or even like a friend.  You have served as her emotional crutch all your life.  And she needs you to continue to function as you have, this is why she demands your obedience and seeks to control you.

There are too many issues to write about, but my major upset is when she 'goes off on me' then 'cuts me off' until I basically beg for her forgiveness and agree that I am a major problem in her life.

You see, people with BPD (pwBPD) are unable to regulate (moderate) their own emotions.  And on top of that, they have dysfunctional emotions to boot.  So whenever your mother is feeling badly about something (perhaps of her own doing), she *projects* these deficiencies onto a willing participant.  She "goes off" on whomever she projects on and demands that the other person seeks her "forgiveness" for what is essentially her own problem.  Her imagining that you are the "major problem in her life" is just another example of this kind of delusional thinking.  She does have a problem in her life, she just chooses to believe other people are the source of it.

This situation happens about twice a year and can last for about 2-4 months. During this time my siblings stay away from me or 'don't want to get in the middle of the drama' (because when I'm on the outs they are on the ins) and my dad avoids me because I am causing conflict with my mom (which is bad for him too).

All family members of pwBPD learn through trial and error what is the path of least resistance or least pain.  Obsequiousness and avoidance are tried and true coping methods.  If the "black sheep" of the family becomes unavailable then someone else will be appointed the "black sheep."  This motivates everyone in the dysfunction family to pressure the "black sheep" into maintaining the order of things.  Everyone, is in effect, requiring the "black sheep" to be their emotional sacrificial scapegoat.

Basically I become isolated from everyone and I spend most of my time worrying, wondering, ruminating over the situation. I hate this because it makes me less present with my children, makes me more short tempered, messes with my marriage because I just can't seem to get over it.

This family dynamic is difficult to get over because you have been conditioned to accept it most of your life.  In some ways you have tried to avoid it perhaps by some of the choices you have made in your immediate family.  In other ways, unconscious ways, you still carry the wounds of past wrongs that persist in how you continue interacting with your extended family, perhaps to this day.

It is not easy to antidote decades of emotional conditioning.  But it is worth while because eventually you can be free to have the kind of family you choose for yourself.

... .and have been working on boundaries. Which included:
-less contact (I decided 1 phone call weekly and 1 on weekend-- used to be everyday multiple times a day)
-Visiting every couple of weeks, She wants every week... .
-not over sharing or asking for too much advice without being prepare for negatives and criticisms.

But this has not worked yet. She harasses me almost every conversation.

You cannot control what your mother does or does not do.  You cannot make her choose to stop harassing you.  You can, however, choose to what behaviors you do or do not expose yourself.  For example, if she chooses to harass you.  You do not have to maintain contact.  You do NOT have to visit at all.  You do not have to share ANYTHING you do not wish to share.  If she offers unsolicited advice or criticisms, you can hang up the phone or walk away from the conversation.

This may mean that you have to do things that you have been conditioned to feel guilty about.  You may need to be "rude" or "inconsiderate" but you are only doing this in order to be considerate and protective of yourself.  You may need to learn how to cope with your own feelings of guilt, fear or obligation in order to cultivate your own good mental health.

Where am I? Why am I doing this too her? What's wrong with me? Not so much in a 'I care about you' way but more of a 'pissed off because your not doing what I want you too way'

It is hard to hear from someone you love that they feel as though you are hurting them.  You will need to consider that how she feels is more a product of her own disorder which she chooses not to address, than anything to do with how you are treating her.  You must put your own emotional needs ahead of your mothers; I have no doubt your priorities have been the reverse for almost all of your life.

When she cuts me off I can't cope with it. It seems like the meanest thing. I have been the perfect child for her, but it don't matter how good I am I still get the wrath.

When she cuts you off, she is hurting you.  It does not "seem" like the meanest thing, it IS the meanest thing she could do at that time.  In the past you have done your best to be the perfect child for her, because before it was a matter of surviving in your family that you maintain this illusion that her feelings where within your control.  It is common, for children, to believe that horrible situations outside of their control are own their fault because, in a child's mind, it is better to believe something is their fault than to face the horror that they are in a situation that is wholly beyond their control.  It was better then to believe that you were not being a sufficiently "perfect child" than to cope with the reality that your mother is mentally ill.

For some of your family members, they choose to continue to believe this nonsense and will defend to the death their matriarch's delusions than to face the reality that mom is terribly sick in the head.

Fortunately, you are no longer a child. But you still need to deal with the wounds that you suffered as a child.  And it will be helpful to limit your exposure to the kinds of antics that continue add salt to those wounds.

You cannot avoid your mother's wrath because she has chosen to make you the receptacle of her disordered emotions which she does not know how to deal with herself.

Lately she says:
"you have a mental illness and always have had something wrong about you... "
"how could you do this to your sweet little kids. Keeping them from their grandmother. I have rights to them."
"You are never happy unless everyone's life is upside down."

Basically this is her admission that she is *projecting* her own (unconscious) fears about herself onto you.  She is the one who has a mental illness.  And she should be ashamed at how she has treated (and continues to treat) her sweet little kids all their lives.  She no more owns you than she owns her own grandchildren -- unless you willingly give them to her as you give yourself.

Whenever she is unhappy, she turns everyone's lives upside down.

You are in the right place.

Best wishes,

Schwing
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2018, 03:38:28 PM »

Hi Kermit,

I am really sorry to read about the difficulties you are having to endure as a result of your mother's abuse towards you. I have experienced many of the same challenges in my own life as I also am the child of a mother with undiagnosed personality disorder (uBPD) and an enabling narcissistic father. I am married to a great wife and we both have professional careers. We have young kids in elementary school and moved to be closer to my parents in the small town where I grew up. We didn't move right in next to them (!) but pretty close regardless and they played a big role as grandparents and babysitters ever since we started having kids.

My mother became extremely controlling with our kids, considering them more or less to be "her" property and the "loves of her life". When we stopped the babysitting arrangement due to her worsening BPD issues, my wife and I became the "black sheep" mentioned by Schwing. We currently have been given the silent treatment for more than 4 months with no end in sight.

I hate to tell you (you may already have realized) but dealing with a BPD family member can be one of the hardest things you will ever do in your life. I never thought that at the age of 44 I would be disregarded and cut off by my own parents, but that is what had to happen for me to finally come into my own as a happy and healthy adult, father, and husband. Schwing has already explained the dynamic that we have all struggled with; the parent with BPD has groomed you since birth to provide emotional and psychological support to them! They will do and say the meanest most horrible things in an attempt to bring you to heel so that things can "go back to normal" and they can continue to suck you dry.

My wife and I decided that the abuse ends with me. My psychologically impaired parents won't pass on their illness to my kids. Oh and my parents also floated the idea that our separating them from our kids was somehow against the law. There was zero acceptance that they access my children through me and there still isn't, as evidenced by their continued silence.

This website is a great resource and I am glad you found it. I promise that it gets easier to deal with your inner turmoil. Keep up the therapy. As my wife's psychiatrist colleague has often told her; "All things will be revealed with time." Internalize the fact that you have absolutely no control over your mother's behavior and move on with making life the best it can be for yourself and your family.

You have my best wishes on your road to recovery. It can be a long winding road but there are a whole lot of people out here walking it with you.

cedarview
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2018, 04:00:47 PM »

Hi Kermit,



You've gotten some really good feedback from schwing and cedarview.  I just wanted to add my welcome   and point out the box to the right --> each item is a link to more information just click on something that resonates... .Maybe check out the "Lessons" section.

I'm glad you've decided to jump in and join us.

Panda39
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