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« on: August 17, 2020, 10:20:08 PM »

Hello,
So glad to have a place to express things that seem to have no place else to be expressed for me.  Thank you for listening.  It's so complicated but i think maybe I understand more about what may be going on with my spouse now after a great deal of thought and research.  To be to the point, it's been a revelation yet i have no idea what to do about it.  Here it is:  I believe that since my spouse's mother (who neglected my spouse growing up and diminished severely her sense of self and did not allow my spouse to have a voice without an intense fight to be heard) is out of the picture now completely with no hope for any resolution or closure for her I have become the new 'Mother'.  In this theory I have, in her mind I am the one (in lieu of her Mother, the real perpetrator) who battered her emotionally, robbed her of her identity, went to the extremes of victimization and defensiveness with her emotionally intensity.  I find myself having to play the part because she insists to her therapist and to our marriage therapist that I do these things and I won't do anything about them.  if i advocate and state that this is her mother's stuff it's a losing battle.  Of course, I have no insight other than what she tells me regarding her therapist.  but it is quite evident in our mutual marriage therapy appointments.  i feel the very thick resentment coming from her toward me.  it's like she is unable to see the real me because of the intense pain she has from her unresolved issues with her mother.  Ideas on how to proceed?  I do not want to play the Mother part.  It's not my part to play but how do I get into the play that has my part to play? How do I change this script I find myself forced into playing by her and her therapist?  Thanks to all for listening, thanks for caring.  
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2020, 09:04:00 AM »

Hi McCone,

Welcome! Hopefully someone else has something more particularly insightful for you. I am going to relate that I think maybe these negative experiences the pwBPD has had with loved ones growing up impacts them to the point that they think other loved ones act that way.

My BPD husband will say to me things like, "Well, I certainly don't want to be criticized or thrown under the bus AGAIN for [insert whatever]." I can assure you that I have NOT criticized him for most of these particular things, and I think he just goes back to his uBPD mother and sister constantly berating him growing up and ascribes that behavior to me.

I also identify with you when you say "It's like she is unable to see the real me." Yes, I think you're right! My husband has not seen the real me in over a decade, if ever. He sees someone totally different - with sinister motives and baseless feelings.

It is positive that you both are in therapy though. I hope you can harness that to work for you better. I think you might need to tackle this differently than arguing that it's not you. Arguing doesn't work. I've wasted YEARS trying to convince someone who won't be convinced! And we had to stop therapy because he would dysregulate leading up to each session - I think because logic would corner him in and I don't think the therapist knew he was pwBPD.

Can you try something like, "Wow - I can imagine how upsetting it is that you think I'm trying to do these things. I know I would be super upset at that. I will try to pay attention to my behavior more carefully to make sure I am not doing that as it is certainly not my intention."

That way, her feelings are acknowledged and you're not admitting to doing anything you haven't done.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2020, 10:26:03 AM »

Hi McCone!  Welcome new member (click to insert in post) I'm familiar with this dynamic on a few fronts.

I have become the new 'Mother'. 

First, does your SO recognize the damage done by her mother? Has she processed and grieved it? Can she recognize her wounds and name them? If she's not there yet, she will be soon.

The wounds we experience from parents can heal but we're usually left with sensitivities and scars. The trick is recognizing them, respecting them, and learning to talk about them.

Ideas on how to proceed?  I do not want to play the Mother part.  It's not my part to play but how do I get into the play that has my part to play?

I know you don't want to play that role, and you don't have to internalize it. What you can't change is that your wife sees you that way.

I've been cast into mother role by my H, who was raised by a BPD mom. He sees me as an extension of her. When I get sad and share hurts, or get frustrated with him, even in the most healthy ways, he hears punitive, scolding mom. At first this creeped me out. I did not want be cast in that role.

I worked hard to simply accept the reality. It is how he views his world and I cannot change that. It allowed me to take things less personally, not react, and live out a truer form of me, regardless of how I was being cast. I can thoughtfully share hurts and at the same time, internally reject the role of punitive mother. My responsibility is to communicate with emotional maturity, and that's where I spend my energy.

On the flip side, I was raised by an NPD dad. I never consciously or verbally compare H to my dad, but at times when I get emotional, H gets defensive and points to my past as the wrongdoer. He says he doesn't want to be accused of wrongs he didn't commit. (Not sharing to say that's what you're doing, I want to share what I do that helps.) I say, "I am aware that I'm sensitive to being mocked or belittled. When you laughed at me for making the mistake, I felt small. I know you didn't intend to make me feel that way." I own my sensitivities, regardless of their source, and I let him know that I recognize he's a good person, because that's a trigger for him.

This may not apply to your situation, but because I've spent a good deal of time in therapy for my parent wounds, I don't apologize for my scars any more. I explain them, I take ownership, and I ask my loving husband to treat them with care.

Can you try something like, "Wow - I can imagine how upsetting it is that you think I'm trying to do these things. I know I would be super upset at that. I will try to pay attention to my behavior more carefully to make sure I am not doing that as it is certainly not my intention."

That way, her feelings are acknowledged and you're not admitting to doing anything you haven't done.

I'm a second vote for this!
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2020, 12:42:39 PM »

Thank you pursuing joy and janewrites.  it's comforting to get feedback and support from people going through similar issues especially as unique and complex as these.  I'll try these suggestions out.  sounds very promising.  I also would like to state how i struggle with what feels to me like 'gang up on McCone' with my spouse and her therapist.  I know how she feels that her therapist is absolutely right on all counts and that without question (as she has stated) she will do whatever her therapist states.  this includes separation and/or divorce.  this is scary for me since i feel that since the therapist has not even met me for one and two her interpretation may be based so heavily on her projection of her mother wound on to me that the therapist's direction may be skewed and/or flawed.  I feel very defeated in this area.  Any suggestions on this?  Thanks again.  I feel heard and understood:)
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2020, 02:29:24 PM »

I also would like to state how i struggle with what feels to me like 'gang up on McCone' .

What you're feeling is pretty normal. Though there are bad ones out there, most therapists are trained to know there is more going on than what their client is saying. Her therapist is focused on her client - understanding, validating, supporting, challenging. And I'm not sure any therapist would suggest or recommend divorce - they're going to follow the client's lead on something that critical.

I feel heard and understood:)
I'm really glad we can support you. We really do get it. We all need to feel hear and understood. Your spouse is getting this validation through her therapist.

When my H and I take our intense validation needs (during difficult seasons) to healthy places, like this forum, or therapy, sometimes we come back to each other with more peace and better energy. If you feel supported and encouraged, you might feel balance coming back into what feels like an imbalanced dynamic.

Have you ever asked to accompany her to therapy, as a way to show support for her and what she's going through? I wonder if you would feel a better sense of balance if you found a therapist as well? Just brainstorming.
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