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Munkeez

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« on: April 10, 2023, 07:22:15 AM »

My BF (47) and I (46) have been together almost a year.  We have been discussing moving in together, and I have some serious concerns about this, and recently, the whole relationship and our future.

He was in a common law r/s for 8 years w his ex.  Her son was only 1 when they met, and his dad has never really been in the picture.  The bio-dad's family would arrange for visits, but because of anger issues, the bio dad had to see the child in supervised settings, so he just gave up after a couple of years.  The other family stopped visiting a couple of years later.  As a result, my BF is the only real father the child has known and he calls my BF "Dad".  

His r/s w his BPD Ex ended in 2018, and she soon became pregnant w someone else in 2019.  She had the child, but as you can imagine, the r/s w the new man is on again off again.  She has threatened from the start to terminate the r/s between her 1st child and my BF if he does not agree to her rules.  Her family has had to intervene twice now when she has taken away visitation.

Ok, so we are all mostly caught up now, right? Smiling (click to insert in post)

Her "rules" were always that the child could not meet any of my BF's "whores" LOL.  She has a deep fear of him having another mom and being replaced.  I have respected that rule, but it is becoming increasingly difficult.  Since she found out about my existence in November (I am now affectionately referred to as The White [edited]), she has a) taken away visitation b) randomly granted visitation on days like Xmas (which meant that on Xmas day, I had to suddenly leave his family's house where we were spending the holidays and go home alone as I don't have any family nearby) c) allowed visitation only to surprise BF at pick up with the news that they are suddenly travelling out of country THAT DAY d) become obsessed w the idea that we will start a family and SS13 will be abandoned e) made new rules like I can't be around BF's family (mom, brothers, neices, nephews etc) e) my name can never be heard or known to the child, now 13.  This one is obviously tricky, as I've spent the better part of a year integrated into BF's extended family.

This weekend was really difficult for me.  Because I don't have family in Canada right now, and BF had his SS13, I was alone again on yet another holiday.  One of my BF's brothers had a birthday and the other brother flew in from out of town to celebrate.  I saw social media pics of all their activities, dinners and family Easter celebrations. I have grown to love his extended family (aunts, uncles, etc included) and they usually do large gatherings.  I grew up w a large extended family and as that has changed now, the time I spend with them is really special for me.  

I told BF last night that I think we should not be discussing moving in together until I am able to meet SS13.  This will likely not happen until he is maybe 15 and can make his own decisions regarding who he sees and when.   It seems that the visitation of every other weekend is back on track and I feel guilty for potentially disrupting that in any way by trying to modify their arrangement.  However, at almost 50, I have my own life to live and I feel that our decisions are being controlled by her whims.  I also fear that this will never end.

Other fears I have include: SS13's recent acting out at school and subsequent suspension since visitation started being removed, meeting him in 2-3 years only to discover he has been brainwashed over that time against me, the potential for SS13 to later feel that he was lied to and that BF was living some kind of secret life w me.

I thought I could handle this whole situation, but it's taking a toll on me and our r/s.  

Any advice is much appreciated.  
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2023, 08:37:54 AM »

Hi - I don’t really have any advice but I think you are definitely on the right track by telling your BF that you shouldn’t move in together until you can meet the step son.  If you do get to meet him and it results in chaos from the ex it might be an indicator of what you are signing up for.  Just my 2 cents…
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2023, 08:45:38 AM »

It's understandable that this is difficult for you. We can't know all that is going on with your relationship from a post, but here are some possible things to look at.

Your BF is in a difficult situation. Although he's not the biological father, he is a father to this child and the relationship is important to him. Yes, the mother is difficult. Is the difficulty do to your BF still having emotional drama with her due to some kind of emotional baggage with her romantically, or is the drama mainly a result of his commitment to the child?

If your BF has not resolved his attachment to his ex, that's one issue that impacts your romantic relationship.

If your BF has moved on from this past relationship and you are his romantic partner, consider that he's trying to manage a difficult situation as best he can- a situation that has nothing to do with you but with wanting to do the best for his child. Because he's not the biological parent, he doesn't have much say in the matter as the mother, who is disordered makes the rules here.

While BPD can affect all relationships, the most vulnerable person in this situation is the child for whom, your BF is the only responsible and consistent person in this child's life. Since he wasn't legally the child's father, he had the choice to just walk away from his disordered ex and not have to deal with this but he didn't. He chose to be the Dad this child needs and more- the responsible parent this child needs. Yes, it impacts his relationship with you and he probably doesn't like that either, but he's not going to dismiss the child because of this. This is not about you but about his own standards. If this is his reason, then one way to look at it is that, he's a responsible and upstanding man for that.

On the other hand your feelings are valid. It's not easy to feel that the ex's wishes come before yours but is it really her wishes that your BF is honoring or is it his child's well being? Still, dating someone with children is different from dating someone who is free to make you his primary choice. You also have this choice and if it's taking a toll on you, then this is important to consider. I think it will help for you to see if this is a situation where your BF is still enmeshed with his ex, or trying to be a responsible father to his child. I do think it's wise to not move forward to moving in together until you feel this situation is clear and you know what choice is best for you.



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Munkeez

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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2023, 06:48:47 AM »

Thank you.  I definitely do not think that there are any feelings left between my BF and his ex.  This is about doing the right thing for the child, as my BF is very dutiful whe it comes to family.  This is something I love about him.

I guess I just don't see how this is going to work if it is going to cause all of this drama for the forseeable future.  I've been a step mom before and I never had any of these issues.  I see them as unnecessary. 

We had a long talk last night and he sees his only options as not seeing SS13 anymore on holidays, to accomodate me, or terminating the r/s completely with SS13.  I don't accept this.  I think that the real options are 1) honour reasonable requests and ignore unreasonable requests, her reaction to that is her problem (however, may result in attempts to permanently restrict visitation - however at the age of 13, I don't see how that's possible in today's world) 2) I exit the r/s and leave all of them alone.
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2023, 11:57:32 AM »

There are three people who would be most affected by a decision. BPD mother is part of the issue but she is not the one deciding on the relationships between the three of you. She's making them more challenging but she isn't the decision maker.

Your BF sees his choices as, not see the child on holidays or not see the child at all.

You see the choice as him taking another action with the requests or you deciding to not be in the relationship with your BF.

The child doesn't have a choice but he will be impacted by the choices of you and your BF.

While you don't agree with the choices your BF suggests, taking a look at all of them:

Not seeing the child on holidays: Unless any of you are very religious, this could be worked out in many ways. BF can schedule fun outings with the child on other days such as school breaks and weekends. Since the child is a teen, these could be fun events- camping, going to a sports event together. This avoids family drama and BF could make these events as fun and special.

Ending the relationship with the child. I think this is the worst of the decisions and potentially the most harmful to all relationships. It would cause a lot of harm to the child. I think it would also be emotionally distressing for BF and also could lead to him resenting you for feeling he had to do this to keep the relationship.

Honor reasonable requests and ignore unreasonable requests- this is expecting your BF to act a different way- this is not actually your choice because it's not your behavior to decide on. You could request him to do this but then you'd be the one enforcing it. I would avoid this dynamic. He can agree to this if he chooses to but you can't choose for him.

You exit the relationship. This is a possible choice and if you feel this situation is not something you want to be in for the long term, then it's the choice that is most authentic to you.

What is it that you want to do?



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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2023, 09:19:35 AM »

"What do you want to do?" - excellent question. 

I am attached to my own wishful thinking that things could be different.

More talking last night, and the way he sees things going is that due to the fact that she has not given consent for me to meet SS13, he has to either move a couple of weekends to accomodate our plans or will have to let her know that he can no longer live with the "deal" that they made 4 years ago when they broke up.  She will lose her mind and restrict access (any time she doesn't like something it's "say goodbye, he isn't your son" etc), but he is being honest and we aren't playing games.

I suspect that at some point in time she will need BF's support w SS13's behaviour as she has in the past, or SS13 will reach out and ask when he is going to see my BF...  and we will have to see where that lands. 

Until the dust settles here and we know how this will go, I will be pumping the brakes on any talk of moving in together. 
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2023, 11:52:30 AM »

"What do you want to do?" - excellent question. 

I am attached to my own wishful thinking that things could be different.

Until the dust settles here and we know how this will go, I will be pumping the brakes on any talk of moving in together. 

I think that is very honest of you to act according to your own boundaries with this. You are hesitant to move in with him at the present time.

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