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How to communicate after a contentious divorce... Following a contentious divorce and custody battle, there are often high emotion and tensions between the parents. Research shows that constant and chronic conflict between the parents negatively impacts the children. The children sense their parents anxiety in their voice, their body language and their parents behavior. Here are some suggestions from Dean Stacer on how to avoid conflict.
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Author Topic: BPDH is flaking on his job again. Seems depressed. What do you think?  (Read 574 times)
SadWifeofBPD
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« on: June 10, 2013, 09:14:31 PM »

BPDH is also an alcoholic.  We've been married for 28 years, together for 30 years.  We have two adult sons.  One recently finished his PhD and the other graduated from college in May and is starting med school in August.  Both boys are the sunshine of my life.  I'm very proud of them.  Smiling (click to insert in post)

H and I separated because, according to him, I upset him too much.  And, because last August he had a physical altercation with one of our kids (H's fault 100%, but he is in complete denial about that).  H's claim is that I should have "forced" our son to apologize to H (son is an adult who lives elsewhere, and I can't "force" him to do anything.  Plus, it wasn't our son's fault!)

  Anyway, for several months leading up to the separation, H would dysregulate and start raging about how I had let him down by not forcing our son to apologize.  A couple of times, the raging was so outrageous that our other son called the police. 

We've been separated for about 2-3 months now.  At first, H was bragging that he's doing so much better away from me. 

(I always found his claims odd, since:  1) he's always been very needy; 2) he's always expected me to do a LOT for him;  3) he's not used to doing ANY housework, laundry, cooking, etc; 4)  (this is the biggie) By separating, he still isn't getting what he claims that he needs: an apology and reconciliation from his son. 

So, during the first month or so after the separation, he was bragging that  he's not drinking, he's sleeping better, and he's getting to work on-time every day.  He's been bragging that he's being "super healthy", working out, eating right, etc.  And, he's been claiming, that he no longer has to take his anti-depression meds and other related meds; and of course, he always would mention to everyone that this is because he's away from me... . the source of all his "pain."     ( from what I've learned, I am a trigger for his pain.  I am supposed to be PERFECT, flawless, know everything, all powerful, can fix anything, smartest woman on earth.  So, when my normal human failings are present, he dysregulates because I've "let him down", I'm "an idiot", "the worst wife", "the worst mother", etc.    I don't know if he's still not drinking; I suspect that he has returned to the bottle. 

So, what is going on?  Those who are more familiar with pwBPD (the needy, "take care of me" types), can probably provide some insight into what's happening. 

I'm guessing that during those first few weeks, he was coping with alcohol, but then stopped that (at least for awhile).  But, now, he's bothered by losing his family, he's alone in some lonely apartment with no furniture except a bed and a TV, he hasn't seen any family member since mid-March (Older son and I moved 150 miles away), his dog is with me, our cats are with me, and he's annoyed with having to do housework, laundry, etc.  He had envisioned this "wonderful life" away from me, and now he's realizing that his "child-like dream of running away from home" isn't what he thought is would be. 

I've learned thru very, very, very reputable close sources that A) he hasn't been showing up for work on many days; B) when he does go to work, he either goes late and/or leaves early,  C) He "blew off" a golf outing that he was very committed to going to.  D) he hasn't been going to the gym.  E) He's essentially just "holed up" in his apt sleeping and watching TV, when he's not at work. 

H is under "strict orders" from his long-distance relatives to never speak to me again (his relatives do NOT know me.  I've only seen them a few times over 30 years and each time was pleasant.  However, they've been told that I've been unfaithful (100% not true.  I've never even held hands with another man in over 30 years) and they've been told that I've neglected H over and over again.  And, they think I should have been able to "force" our son to apologize.  Of course, they think our son was the instigator for the altercation, which isn't true. 

Anyway, H's relatives don't know that H has BPD, so they don't know about how he paints me Black so his criticisms and paranoias should be taken "with a grain of salt."  In their minds, H has told them that he has a horrible, selfish, unfaithful wife who never does anything for him, and they think that if he talks to me, he'll "give in" and go back to me.  Since they're convinced that the lies about me are true, and they believe that it's my fault that H is an alcoholic, their only goal is to keep us apart - forever.   Because H was desperate for someone to lean on (by phone), he made this promise to never speak to me again. 

My guess is that time has shown H that a "phone relationship" with his brother isn't "enough" for him.   I think he's sinking into further depression because none of this is turning out as he had thought (H is very impulsive and lacks foresight). 

I do know that H showed up at our vacation home about 2 weeks ago because he thinks that I live there ( I don't... . I don't want him to know where I live).  I know that he spent the night in that vacation home, presumably thinkiing that I would "show up" and he could pretend that he hadn't initiated contact with me if the subject came up with his family.   

So, what's going on?  Is he falling apart?  Is reality slapping him in the face?  Is he like the child who claims that he doesn't need anyone, but then realizes who's going to make his dinner? 
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SadWifeofBPD
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2013, 12:05:31 PM »

I just had a long talk with my sister, a T.  She said that when I told her a couple of weeks ago that H had shown up at our vacation home, she believed that this was the beginning of him "falling apart."  She says that she sees this sort of thing in her practice.  At first, the person will think "everything is great" when they take off/move out.  They're excited about a new chapter in their life.

But, then they start missing what they had.  They miss their partner, their kids, their pets, what-have-you.  They realize that their "new life" which they thought was going to be so awesome, is nothing like they expected. 

She's very concerned that he's on a drinking binge and may get a DUI.  I am nearly certain that if he did get a DUI, he'd commit suicide.  He couldn't bear to have his relatives know that while he's been telling them that all his problems were my fault and that life is super-perfect and sober without me. 

H is literally "blowing off" appts and obligations.  I've seen this before.  He'll stay in bed all day, drugged up, and won't get up for anything other than to go to the bathroom.  After the altercation with our son last August, he went on a month-long intense drinking binge - drinking a bottle of booze each day.

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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2013, 06:01:06 PM »

Hi, I am married 35 years to uBPDh and I can relate to much of your story. One thing, my husband does not leave me. I have left him because I needed to preserve my sanity. Come to think of it when we were first married, just kids really, and we would fight he would always threaten to go home to his mom. Dummy me would beg him not to. I was so intent on succeeding in the marriage because my parents were not thrilled with me getting married at 18. I have just realized in the last few years that he def has BPD. I can go from wonderful, amazing to a bhit and idiot in minutes. We have sex about once a week maybe twice. We can just be getting through and he says we never do. It is never enough. He is a bottomless pit of neediness. He monopolizes my time when I am not at work. He also wants me to make the kids, especially my daughter apologize when they have arguments. Our kids are grown. My son a minister. He remembers very little of his childhood experiences. I think it is scoping mechanism to help him deal with a lot of emotional abuse. The second I leave for work, my H calls me on the phone. I may not even be out of the driveway yet! It is exasperating. I separated from him 3 years ago for about 6 weeks. It was the best few weeks! So quiet and peaceful! I went to counseling. We went together after awhile. But then he just started to manipulate and control me. Even if it was with kindness. I'm still evaluating if I'm up for another 20-30 years of this. I'm tired of the conflict, the crazy making. I wish I would've just stayed away. It is harder now to think about leaving all over again. He is just devastated when I leave and willing o do whatever to get me back. But I think if I just stayed away long enough he would begin to get really angry and show his true colors. At that point, I would feel justified in staying away. His fear of rejection and abandonment causes him to act in ways that make me want to get the heck away. Not sure if I am strong enough to do the work to preserve the r/s and my sanity. Sorry for ranting. But it is good to have somewhere to get it off my chest.
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SadWifeofBPD
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2013, 05:31:22 PM »

Thank you for sharing your story.

Yesterday, H sent my son (not the one that he's mad at) a very, very long email with a ridiculous accusation that I'm stealing his mail.  We've been over the mail situation many, many times, but it's become a circular argument, and now he's dysregulating and vomiting all this crap to our son.
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SadWifeofBPD
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2013, 10:58:16 PM »

H sent me an email this morning with 6 long paragraphs of nonsense, circular arguments, etc. 

It was painful to read because it also contained a good number of insults.  I found myself tearing up a few times today.  Oftentimes his antics and insults don't faze me, but today his words really hurt. 

He's going to lose everything if his crazy behavior continues:  both kids, wife, pets, home... . everything. 

I wish he'd try schema therapy, but he insists that he has the "nice person's PD".  OMG
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SadWifeofBPD
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2013, 03:36:49 PM »

I sent a reply using SET techniques to address each of his points.  He sent me 3 emails telling me that I hadn't addressed his points. 

I think I'm dealing with more than BPD. 
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2013, 02:33:51 AM »

The alcohol is a huge factor in this too.  It's gonna be hard to figure out what's the booze or what's the disorder.

I'm guessing since the severity is building it wouldn't matter what exactly it is its more important to deal with behaviors one at a time as they come up.

Rock bottom can be scary and ugly - sometimes people have to hit it.  Monitoring for suicide is important without soothing the other rock bottom consequences.

Do you have a t besides your sister? All her qualifications aside it may help to have a one that isn't personally involved and maybe specializes in assisting partners of people with addictions and/or BPD/other severe mental illnesses.

Just a thoughtmaybe something to explore since his rock bottom will affect you too.

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SadWifeofBPD
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2013, 06:29:34 AM »

Yes, I do have my own T.  My own T is harsher on my H than my sister is.  Laugh out loud (click to insert in post)  My own T thinks both of H's parents have a serious PD.  She thinks his mom has NPD and his dad has BPD with Paranoia PD, ADHD, and other issues as well. 

Both my sister and my own T believe that alcohol and other meds are at play.  They think he has some kind of "brain fog" from all the crap he consumes.  H is claiming that he's sober now and not taking all those meds, but he's so "on edge" that I'm not really believing that. 

H did send another email last night with only two words:  I'm sorry. 

That is strange since he rarely EVER says he's sorry, and I'm not sure what he's apologizing for.  Of course, there are hundreds of things he should be apologizing for (Laugh out loud (click to insert in post)) , but I don't know what's in his head. 
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