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« on: December 27, 2015, 08:33:33 AM »

Hi all,

This is my first post. I found this site by searching for a support/help group online.

My daughter has BPD. She is now 30 yo with 2 young children. The oldest spends his time monitoring his mother for signs of her behaviour which is worrying for his own mental health.

Unfortunately, I don't live near my daughter anymore, we communicate usually via social media. Phone-calls don't usually end up well because even the most innocent remark will usually trigger an adverse reaction at some point and her comments usually get quite personal and nasty.

My daughter went to my sisters for a family get-together on Christmas day but unfortunately didn't even last five minutes apparently before she exited with the children because she became angry when she felt everyone was watching and judging her coming in the door and not offering to help with the children. (Her situation is further complicated in that she has Marfan's syndrome and suffers from acute back pain for which her doctor has (she says) recommended marijuana as he doesn't want to put her on strong pain medication that will cause her to become addicted.     )   My daughter used to be a very loving and chatty child until she was 15 and started to hang out with the wrong people and do drugs. Her personality changed virtually overnight and she became very angry, irrational. I've read many times the purported 'causes' of BPD - most often family abuse or neglect is mentioned, however my daughter had a very happy childhood and everything changed most suddenly. Unfortunately anyone who gets close to her or tries to help usually feels the sharp end of the stick within a few weeks and disappears so she has no real support base save for one friend that I know of. Her children's fathers have exited and my/her own family don't include her in many get-togethers because they know to well how it will usually end. She has also moved house - pulling my grandson out of school, numerous times when it all gets too much for her.

I'm not sure what I want from this group, maybe just and ear and a venting place. I've tried not to give up and I suppose I'm looking for some kind of miracle answer which I know in reality is not there.

Thanks for taking the time to read my post.

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Susan Peabody
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2015, 01:15:57 PM »

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I'm not sure what I want from this group, maybe just and ear and a venting place. I've tried not to give up and I suppose I'm looking for some kind of miracle answer which I know in reality is not there.

We offer this and the best education there is for dealing with a Borderline. Posts are cutting edge. As good as any book.

My son is 44 and a BPD. I get weary a lot, but he is blameless for acquiring this condition. He just needs to learn how to cope with what he perceives to be rejection.

My son sent me this article. He said he reminded him of himself.

People like to tell me now and then that I am narcissistic. Yet I see myself as kind and generous. You might say I am in “denial,” about being a loving person, but there is actually some evidence to back up my perception of myself. I have a long history of “loving too much” (codependency), and I go out of my way to help people all the time. On the other hand, in public I have been known to really go off on people the way narcissists tend to do. So who am I—naughty or nice? Well, the honest answer is both. And I have come up with a very simple term to describe this. I am a “situational narcissist.”

Narcissism is a mental illness, albeit un unsympathetic one, and I could tell you horror stories about my childhood, but this does not let me off the hook. Once you grow up, the root cause of your problem becomes nothing more than an explanation of why you are the way you are. You are still, no matter how difficult it may be, obligated to change—to become the best person you can be, or at least better than the person you were when you started out.

You might be thinking maybe I am a nice person who gets in a bad mood now and then. But the last person I victimized behind the counter at Starbucks would really disagree with you. She was too slow and I ripped her to shreds. I was not just annoyed because she was ignoring me to help someone else, I was angry because, as a closet narcissist, I believe I am at the center of the universe (at any given moment), and should be on the top of your priority list. When I am in line somewhere my attitude and body language say it all: “Step aside, I am here and I am more important than you because I am in a hurry.” Every now and then I actually say this out loud and everyone laughs, but it is really just a Freudian slip.

It might be fun to tell you some of the stories of my narcissistic outbursts, because I can make light of them now and turn them into humorous anecdotes, but the truth is this part of my personality is embarrassing to me. To get away from my shame I even created an alter ego whom I call Gretchen. I introduce her to people after an incident and blame her for my outbursts. “Gretchen made me do it,” I would say. Poor Gretchen, what a great scapegoat she was before my therapist made me give her up. Anyway, my point is that you can trust me, I am capable of being narcissistic—self absorbed, rude, belittling, unsympathetic, etc. etc.

Since I am only a “situational” narcissist, let’s talk about the situations that trigger my narcissism. They are stress, fear, being ignored and being the target of rude behavior.

Let’s start with stress. It creates anxiety and Gretchen immediately takes over to handle the situation like a warrior on the battlefield. She has no diplomatic skills whatsoever. It is conquer or die trying. Fear, like stress, also triggers narcissistic behavior. I once figured out in therapy that I am afraid when I leave the house. I was not only bullied by the neighborhood kids when I left the house as a child, but out in the big bad world I have been kidnapped, robbed, and beaten—all of which have left me with a mild case of post traumatic stress disorder. All of this means, that once I leave the house I am anxious to do what I have to do and get home. God help you if you get in my way. Another major trigger for me is being ignored. This is typically referred to as a narcissistic wound. It stems from not getting enough attention as a child. My mother had four children in two and a half years and had her hands full. I was also the middle child. While my sisters were happily playing on the floor, and my mother was holding my baby brother, I was screaming for my mother to pick me up and hold me. Being the middle child has long been recognized as being difficult. So you don’t want to ignore me if you know what is good for you. Finally, if you are rude to me you must have a death wish because I go ballistic. You will get a mouth full, not to mention the finger. I tell myself I am only standing up for myself, but what about the people around me when I am doing this. There is such a thing as disturbing the peace.

So here I am, 59 and a situational narcissist with a lot of understanding about what is wrong with me and how I get triggered. So what comes next? What do I do about it? Well the tough part is over. I have done what few narcissists can do, I have identified and owned what is wrong with me. Now I must change. I have written a whole book about change. It is entitled, The Art of Changing.” In summary it says I must get help (therapy and support groups) and make a commitment to thinking and acting differently. Then I must keep this goal in my conscious mind at all times and not slip back into denial. I must become acutely self-aware, watching myself fail before I succeed. And finally, with the desire to change ever foremost in my mind, I must think before I act.

Wish me luck as I embark on this journey. As Daniel Goleman points out in Emotional Intelligence, changing your personality is one of the hardest things you can do. But this is important to me and I am hopeful.

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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2015, 04:21:14 PM »

Thank you for sharing this Susan,

I have witnessed many a situation as your son describes and I do often wonder what goes on in my daughter's head to trigger it. Especially the Starbucks scenario. Your son describes a near identical outburst from my daughter, except hers was in a McDonald's store in Turkey where she would more have likely to have ended up in prison rather than in a psychiatrists office. When she is composed she can quite rationally explain herself but has no way (or at least has not learn't) to rational or control her outbursts; as Christmas day (as described in my previous post) described. From your son's post I can see there is hope and when the time is right I may share your son's letter with her if you don't mind? Right now we are 'touching base' irregularly. She has decided she is going to disassociate herself from the rest of the family (even changing her name she tells me) but oddly is now speaking to me after telling me she no longer wanted to speak me at the beginning of the year. (By no means the first time) I assume through everything, she still likes to hold on to at least one family thread even when distancing herself from the others. It's just such a shame she can't allow herself to stay close to people more regularly but as you would know, it's constantly swings and merry-go-rounds.

Many thanks.

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