Home page of BPDFamily.com, online relationship supportMember registration here
April 03, 2025, 03:37:04 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Board Admins: Kells76, Once Removed, Turkish
Senior Ambassadors: EyesUp, SinisterComplex
  Help!   Boards   Please Donate Login to Post New?--Click here to register  
bing
Skills we were never taught
98
A 3 Minute Lesson
on Ending Conflict
Communication Skills-
Don't Be Invalidating
Listen with Empathy -
A Powerful Life Skill
Setting Boundaries
and Setting Limits
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Marriage therapy, here we go again…  (Read 246 times)
campbembpd
**
Offline Offline

What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Romantic partner
Relationship status: married
Posts: 97


« on: February 25, 2025, 03:08:51 PM »

So a couple of questions I have for you all, I’ll start with those and you can read below for details if you like Smiling (click to insert in post)

1. What do you think about bringing notes into therapy? I am not always great about remembering details of situations, or even my thoughts & feelings - much better at thinking through and writing them. I was making notes on my concerns for the relationship, describing the patterns of behavior not coming out and saying I think she has BPD. As well as my concerns for her heavy drinking and how it causes anger and aggression. In addition I was taking some details from 2 recent BPD episodes for examples. It’s all come out to a couple of pages.

2. My wife is an alcoholic but doesn’t think she is. Or won’t admit it. She definitely has BPD episodes w/o alcohol but when she drinks it’s like gasoline on the fire. She often gets aggressive and angry when she drinks, snippy and is very very prone to being set off so much more quickly. Question is - everything I’ve read said that marriage issues are difficult if not impossible to work on if an alcoholic is actively using. I guess the real question is should I direct the therapist or emphasize my concerns initially primarily for the alcohol use? I don’t think she’s gonna have any control as long as she continues to drink… but it scares me because I really don’t think she will ever stop drinking.

Background on the current situation:
We’re going into marriage therapy in a couple of days. This is the second time we’ve gone in. The difference is this is the first time we’ve started therapy with me knowing she has bpd traits and as certain as I can be without being a psych she has full blown bpd and possibly some npd. The prior time I had no idea what bpd was. Therapy was entered to mostly ‘fix’ me so I would just stop doing things to make her angry/sad/enraged/etc. I now see that my uBPDw has a serious mental illness.

To that end where we are now is my wife insisted on seeing a therapist from our church. It’s the only way she would agree to go back to therapy. One of her techniques for what I now see as gaslighting or manipulation was to tell me things like I’m not putting her where God says she should be. That I’m not prioritizing her above everything else and I treat her like trash, etc. during her episodes of being enraged for days, she’s often told me that I just need more God  (I am a Christian and a believer.) because if I was a better Christian, had more God than I wouldn’t treat her as terribly as I do and make her feel like she does. Anyway, that’s basically her motivation for wanting to see a therapist from the church. I did make an appointment but came to find out that the therapist at our church are essentially interns. They’ve finished their education and are working on getting enough clinical hours to get their full credentials. So this will not be an experienced therapist, which concerns me greatly. Without any experience, I do worry that my wife might be able to manipulate this person and may not have a good understanding of PD’s. On the other hand, part of me actually hopes that this would shine a very bright light on her alcoholism. Because this is through the church and of the situation, we only get six sessions, but they are free.

At first, she told me that this was our last chance of therapy. But later on said that she would agree to see a therapist outside of the church if I wanted. Praise Jesus.

But I am feeling apprehensive if this therapist gets manipulated by my wife or just is plain clueless about working with PDs. And maybe it’s worrying about too many”what if’s” but I do think about what if I don’t think this person ends up good or qualified and want to move onto someone experienced in these areas (I have one I want to try who specializes in couples counseling, BPD, and helping people with emotional regulation).
Logged
PLEASE - NO RUN MESSAGES
This is a high level discussion board for solving ongoing, day-to-day relationship conflicts. Members may appear frustrated but they are here for constructive solutions to problems. This is not a place for relationship "stay" or "leave" discussions. Please read the specific guidelines for this group.

Pook075
Ambassador
********
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Ex-romantic partner
Relationship status: Divorced
Posts: 1442


« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2025, 07:45:10 PM »

But I am feeling apprehensive if this therapist gets manipulated by my wife or just is plain clueless about working with PDs. And maybe it’s worrying about too many”what if’s” but I do think about what if I don’t think this person ends up good or qualified and want to move onto someone experienced in these areas (I have one I want to try who specializes in couples counseling, BPD, and helping people with emotional regulation).

Proverbs 3:5 says to 'trust in the Lord with all your heart; lean not on your own understanding.' I love that verse because it means all the "what ifs" we get in our head are worthless, that's just us thinking we can solve anything when we're really not in control.

Take the six free therapy sessions and see what happens.  If she blames you for everything, fine...she's in therapy.  If the counselors are manipulated, then fine, it makes no difference since it won't change anything.  But there is a chance that some good can come out of it, and the sessions are 100% free.  Roll the dice and let God have six sessions.

For your two questions, I think it's a great idea to bring notes to anything in life...therapy is no different.  And I would certainly mention the alcohol use in therapy, especially how conflict escalates when heavy drinking is involved.

However, I'd also challenge you to look at all of this from a different viewpoint.  The goal here is not to "prove" your wife is an abuser that has BPD.  The actual goal is to improve your marriage.  The more you remember that goal in therapy and avoid all the he said/she said stuff, the easier the counselor's job will be to see that she's manipulative and unstable.

In other words, the more you try to show she's unstable, the further apart the two of you are going to be....regardless of counseling.  Move past that and focus on the healing part, that's where you'll start to see dividends.

I hope that helps!
Logged
Can You Help Us Stay on the Air in 2024?

Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Our 2023 Financial Sponsors
We are all appreciative of the members who provide the funding to keep BPDFamily on the air.
12years
alterK
AskingWhy
At Bay
Cat Familiar
CoherentMoose
drained1996
EZEarache
Flora and Fauna
ForeverDad
Gemsforeyes
Goldcrest
Harri
healthfreedom4s
hope2727
khibomsis
Lemon Squeezy
Memorial Donation (4)
Methos
Methuen
Mommydoc
Mutt
P.F.Change
Penumbra66
Red22
Rev
SamwizeGamgee
Skip
Swimmy55
Tartan Pants
Turkish
whirlpoollife



Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2006-2020, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!