Okay to say “I’m proud of you”?

[Harvester]

I read somewhere that you shouldn’t tell your child with bpd that you are proud of her. Instead, you should say “I bet you’re proud of yourself.” This feels awkward, so I’ve avoided the word proud all together.  I am very proud of my daughter and it feels cruel not to tell her so.  I welcome thoughts and experiences regarding the p word from other parents of bpd children.

Our objective is to better understand the struggles our child faces and to learn the skills to improve our relationship and provide a supportive environment and also improve on our own emotional responses, attitudes and effectiveness as a family leaders

[SaltyMiMi]

Dear Harvester -
I also would tell my 24 year old daughter newly dx with BPD that I was proud of her when I saw anything she did or said that was positive . It was met with “ don’t say that to me , it makes me feel like a child “ She is not perceiving it the same way as I am meaning it to be . I learned their perception is extreme , either black or white , no rational in between . I found the information about using SET when communicating with her to be so helpful . SET stands for support , empathy and truth . I found the information on this website . I’m sorry I cannot find where it was on the site . There is so much awesome information on the site that I am just trying to read all of it . Welcome to this family . You are not alone .

[Harvester]

Yeah. But I hear her say other people who she looks up to tell her they’re proud of her, and she seems to like it. Maybe it’s just that a parent can’t say it. I did squeeze one in recently. She told me she was proud of me about a decision I made. So I said, “I may not say it enough, but I hope you know I’m always proud of you.”  Her response was “thanks mom.” So I got away with one. But I can see where an “I’m proud of you” from a parent could seem belittling to a bpd adult child. Any suggestions on how I relay that I’m proud of her without actually saying it?

[SaltyMiMi]

Harvester I am glad you got “one “ in ! Saying I’m proud of you to our children , adults or not , is something I feel like I will always say and it sounds like you feel it’s important too.
I feel like how we talk to our BPD person depends on where in the high low cycle they are in . I’m new at this too so just learning also how to “talk” to them . Hopefully we will hear from others who have some ideas . I wonder if writing it in a card or something is good then if they keep the card they can see what is written over and over .
I have 3 adult children , age 32 (boy) , age 26 ( girl) and age 24 ( BPD girl) and every so often I send something to let them know how awesome they are and what wonderful people they have grown up to be .

[kells76]

Any suggestions on how I relay that I’m proud of her without actually saying it?

Great question. My husband's kids (both teens, not BPD, though their mom has traits) both have particular sensitivities to certain words/statements/verbal stuff. I guess everyone does to some degree.

I wonder how it'd go for you to invite hearing from your daughter her perspective on how she did with something, and that could give you a clue as to how to talk about it. For example, she makes a choice you are proud of and are really happy she made. You might ask (in language that sounds like you, and natural, not artificial/stilted): "How was that for you?" or "How are you feeling about how that went?" or "What's your take on how that went down?"

It's possible she could respond with "I felt pretty good about it, I feel like I thought it through ahead of time" or "It was fine, I'm definitely glad I worked hard" or "The first part sucked, but then after I made it through I did OK".

Statements like that would hopefully give you a clue as to what she'd want to hear -- so with the first one, your clue would be "she thought ahead" and so maybe there could be a compliment on "You really planned ahead and it paid off for you". The second clue could be "she worked hard" and a comment could be "I noticed your diligence and effort big-time yesterday". The third clue could be "it sucked but I made it through" and the compliment could be "you stuck with it and persevered... I'm impressed".

My hope would be that whatever language she decides to use about herself could be a clue as to what she's open to hearing.

I tend to do this more with SD13 -- ask her "what's your take on how that turned out" and she'll say something like "it took a while but I'm so excited about it", so my clue is to validate the long time and excitement: "this has been a long time coming, and you stuck with it and are stoked about how it looks." I also am trying to not use the word "but" any more.

So I tend to stick more with pure validation and reflecting back her experience to her. I did say that DH and I were proud of her the other day. I think I need to take a page from your book and preface it with "We don't say this enough, but we're so proud of you". Maybe that's a good balance -- where too many instances of saying "I'm proud of you" send a sensitive kid into overload, but then they're also sensitive to not hearing it enough? So we say it less often (in order to help them stay equilibrated), but "wish we could say it more"?

Sensitive people take some unique care!

Hope those ideas help;

kells76