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« on: March 23, 2014, 02:23:12 AM »

Went out of town to help my mom this morning. Spent the evening with friends. Called the kids, went straight to voice mail. We usually call each other back. I called back two hours later and said it was ok if the kids were asleep, but short of an emergency, I'd appreciate some kind of response. Straight to voice mail.

Of course I got anxious, said I was going home. Its a two hour drive. My friends said what did I expect to accomplish? I said I wouldn't be able to sleep, and I was only going to stick around for a few hours in the morning anyway. Besides, i love night driving. They said I was letting her control me and I shouldn't worry about it. They tried to convince me. I know they were right, but took my bag, thanked them for their hospitality and left.

20 mins down the road, uBPDx texted me that they got home late and the kids needed a bath (nevermind she has integrated bluetooth in the new car I helped her buy). She said she would have the kids call me before church. I replied it was fine. If they went, I would see them. If not, then the evening call. One phone call a day. The kids don't care either way. She said ok thanks.

My buddy texted me when I got home, said they probably weren't very supportive. I said yeah, I felt invalidated. They skipped S and E and went straight to T, then i said maybe I'm BPD!

I know they were right, but I'm not the one who chose to be a half time parent, and yes it still angers me, especially after months of taking care of the kids more while their mother chose to periodically abandon and neglect them to persue an adolescent r/s outside our family.
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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2014, 10:18:29 AM »

I know they were right, but I'm not the one who chose to be a half time parent, and yes it still angers me, especially after months of taking care of the kids more while their mother chose to periodically abandon and neglect them to persue an adolescent r/s outside our family.

No, you're the one with completely valid trust issues. She isn't trustworthy or dependable, and you're worried about your children's well being, not having an issue where you don't feel their love or lack feelings for them when you aren't in their presence.

Take it easy on yourself. It's easy to worry when someone who holds the lives of your children in her hands is unpredictable. Especially since that silent treatment is such a satisfying and effective weapon against you. (If they are even doing it on purpose. I get the idea that we just slip their minds because we aren't a priority anymore) As horrible as it is, you can only do what you can. I feel for you because I have no doubt I will be in the same exact boat within a few years.

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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2014, 02:36:07 PM »

Turkish,

Went out of town to help my mom this morning. Spent the evening with friends. Called the kids, went straight to voice mail. We usually call each other back. I called back two hours later and said it was ok if the kids were asleep, but short of an emergency, I'd appreciate some kind of response. Straight to voice mail.

I think it is great you love and care for your kids enough to ensure they are OK; especially when the kids are young. I wish my ex or any family member besides myself called in or came by to check on my kids.

My buddy texted me when I got home, said they probably weren't very supportive. I said yeah, I felt invalidated. They skipped S and E and went straight to T, then i said maybe I'm BPD!

I don't know anyone that appreciates being invalidated. I wonder if what may differentiate BPD is how they respond and process it.

They said I was letting her control me and I shouldn't worry about it. They tried to convince me. I know they were right, but took my bag, thanked them for their hospitality and left.

By the way, most people I know can't provide decent advice when it comes to the relationship with my ex. I have learned therapists and those with a family member with a serious mental illness are typically the ones with advice to consider.

Thanks for posting this. Tears were falling after reading an e-mail from my ex. If someone else read my ex's e-mail out of context, they might think crying was an over the top response. I feel better after reading your post.
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2014, 03:35:24 PM »

Hi Turkish,

Is this a post where you want to change or where you want validation for doing what you did?

Since it is personal inventory, I am assuming you want to change - so my post is in challenging you.  There is no doubt in your love and concern for your children.

I know they were right, but took my bag, thanked them for their hospitality and left.

1.  what specific emotion did you feel? 

2.  Based on that emotion, what is the worst case scenario and is it valid/realistic?

3.  how could you help self soothe next time?  DBT Skills are very helpful here.

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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2014, 05:57:52 PM »

Hi Turkish,

Is this a post where you want to change or where you want validation for doing what you did?

Since it is personal inventory, I am assuming you want to change - so my post is in challenging you.  There is no doubt in your love and concern for your children.

I didn't even realize I had posted this to the PI board. But since we are here... .

I know they were right, but took my bag, thanked them for their hospitality and left.

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1.  what specific emotion did you feel?  

Anxiety.

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2.  Based on that emotion, what is the worst case scenario and is it valid/realistic?

There was no immediate worst case I could have done anything about. My friends even said what did I hope to accomplish, to go there in the middle of the night and knock on her door? I said no, I wouldn't do that, and in any case, she lives in a secured community so that wasn't even possible, That wasn't the point. I needed to so something. That something was going for a two hour night drive rather than staying two hours away and not sleeping. She did text me when I got 20 mins down the road, some excuse about getting home late and having to bathe the kids. I didn't buy it, but thanked her anyway. I think she got the message that I was not happy when I left the voice mail. I will always need to be The Parent and let her know, implicitly or tacitly, that there are boundaries that she shouldn't cross.

What do I fear, which is what I think you are asking? A change in the established pattern. I've gotten better at accepting what is going on over the past two months.

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3.  how could you help self soothe next time?  :)BT Skills are very helpful here.

My soothing was driving home, then getting up early to start the day. I did sleep ok. She showed up at church with the kids, very friendly. The kids were very glad to see me. She hinted at inviting me out for lunch, but I declined and said I'd call the kids later to say good night, but thanked her for bringing them (in one sense, I know she is seeking peace for herself, and this is one way she is trying to do it).

Back to the PI: I've always been reactive like this, though not destructively so. I know what to do to soothe myself. Sometimes, like this, it isn't sitting there and controlling my thoughts and emotions, which I can do. It's taking a non harming action. Going for a drive. Taking a hike. Losing myself in a book for a few hours (just did that). My one friend has known me since I was 13 and he was 11. A brother, the one who knows me best out of any one in the world besides myself. Like dontknow2 said, unless you are going through this, even friends and family can't really understand it. So at the end of the day alone, I need to do what I need to do to deal with my emotion. They had it easy, as they were secure in their home, no conflict going on in their lives.

I've never felt secure attachments to where I lived until now (due to my mom's chaos making us nomads for years, periodically homeless, I grew to not take comfort or security from where I slept). My family is what has bound me here. So I sought security, even if it was in an empty house. Is that wrong? In writing this, the house is suddenly quiet. No kids screaming. No tv, radio turned down, the washer quietly churning through the wall. The sound of my fingers tapping the keyboard. The computer in the background humming. Now I really feel alone.

Time to go into the sunlight and mow the back grass. That is how I will deal with it.  Being cool (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2014, 06:11:40 PM »

If not PI, then where?  What were you looking for?


She did text me when I got 20 mins down the road, some excuse about getting home late and having to bathe the kids. I didn't buy it, but thanked her anyway. I think she got the message that I was not happy when I left the voice mail. I will always need to be The Parent and let her know, implicitly or tacitly, that there are boundaries that she shouldn't cross.

I am confused, what boundary did she cross?  Did she violate the parenting agreement?  Do you have a specified time that you each say goodnight to the kids and she missed it?
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