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« on: October 08, 2016, 09:34:16 PM »

Hello all!

I just found this as a resource today and have every intention on using it as often as I can. Huge thank you to the entire community for being so resourceful and helpful.

Some background information, should you like:

My ex was diagnosed with BPD about a year ago (we were together at the time). The entire relationship was push/pull, her feeling terribly about the way she treated me, us reaching our highest points of intimacy only for her to abruptly break up with me claiming that she needed to become a better version of herself (yet simultaneously admitting that she was running away), only to return back within time.

We were inseparable, practically living together and the best of friends. She told me she had never felt so loved in her life, cared for, had never been as comfortable with anyone, and, quite frankly, as I read more about the disorder, probably put me on a pedestal and idealized me, as she was always telling me how I was the most positive influence in her life.

As other major issues in her life other than the BPD began to unfold, our relationship disintegrated with us mutually parting ways in February for the time being, until she felt that she could handle the relationship sometime down the road. She constantly apologized for not being able to be there for me the way I was for her, though I knew this was never a choice. I was looking for a true commitment (as this is what the relationship started as) and she just couldn't offer it anymore being in that place.

We kept in touch for a while after and then she (characteristically) disappeared. We have mutual friends and I know she hasn't seriously dated anyone since, if at all (it's been eight months post-break). We have had some contact and she has always been more than receptive to me and hinted at the possibility of us reuniting in the future. I don't think she is really near where she needs to be yet, but she is lightyears beyond where she was.

So here's my question:

She recently described our situation to a mutual friend as the following quote: "a bird and a fish can fall in love, but where do they build a home?"

Naturally, this sent my head spinning, thinking of all the possibilities. At first, I thought it could have been something very surface level: the fact that we're in different social circles, like different kinds of music, dress a little differently (we're pretty alike though, actually), but then that doesn't necessarily make sense because we were together for so long and would always talk about how comfortable she felt with me - why is this only an issue now, eight months post-break?

My friend told me that it probably has more to do with our capabilities to love: I'm a rock and she's a runner, I'm mature and she needs to grow, I take issues on and she avoids, I take accountability and she blames, and so on.

I know that she is very aware of the way she treated me and came down on herself very hard for it... .I know that she avoids me due to anxiety and fear of another failure (and possible abandonment and/or engulfment, given the disorder), but still loves me deeply.

I guess my ultimate question is, when it comes to dealing with someone wBPD referencing that quote, does it give it a different spin? Do they often idealize their lovers and see themselves as "invaluable" versus them? Or incapable? She would often use very negative words to describe herself (bad, manipulative, not nice, etc.), though I never saw the validity in any of them.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated  Thought
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2016, 10:58:28 PM »

I can't really answer you question, but I feel like I'm in the same situation. I feel like your back story of your relationship is almost identical to mine. Everything was great and then she just broke up with me. She gave me letters and one had the information about how she has BPD. She didn't expect me to read that and hours later she broke up with me and has vanished. I hope that the lines of communication can open up for me like they did for you at one time. I really feel your pain brother. I feel my ex left me because she thinks I'm too good for her and she doesn't want to be hurt. I know right now she feels smothered and I'm going NC. I hope she begins to miss me. I sent her flowers today hoping that will spark positive memories. I wish you luck and I'm here to talk if you ever want to. I feel like our situations are similar in nature. I'm just at the beginning of the process. Pretty much will she contact me or not situation I'm in.
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2016, 11:04:58 PM »

I can't really answer you question, but I feel like I'm in the same situation. I feel like your back story of your relationship is almost identical to mine. Everything was great and then she just broke up with me. She gave me letters and one had the information about how she has BPD. She didn't expect me to read that and hours later she broke up with me and has vanished. I hope that the lines of communication can open up for me like they did for you at one time. I really feel your pain brother. I feel my ex left me because she thinks I'm too good for her and she doesn't want to be hurt. I know right now she feels smothered and I'm going NC. I hope she begins to miss me. I sent her flowers today hoping that will spark positive memories. I wish you luck and I'm here to talk if you ever want to. I feel like our situations are similar in nature. I'm just at the beginning of the process. Pretty much will she contact me or not situation I'm in.

I have been a passive reader of the boards for quite some time and it was always astounding how many stories sounded nearly identical, if not dead ringers, to mine.

Though my personal opinion, I believe that going NC is the absolute best thing you can do. For so long I tried to reach out to her, but she had reached an emotional shut down by that point and I truly feel like there is no turning back until they are truly ready. For some this takes weeks, for some I've heard years. I do not think that this is something we can wage in on, as their reasons for leaving us were so deeply psychological already and almost positively not related to us as people or based on anything we did, rather the notions of who we are and what we represent.

Best of luck to you and everything in time, my friend 
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2016, 11:11:52 PM »

Thank you! I just hope since things were so good and how fast she broke up with me that she does reach out to me. If she comes back I'll be ready for her and to tackle this head on. Looking back she gave me warnings and in the letters she gave me I feel in a way are to keep things alive for some weird reason. She will have to decide if our love is strong enough or not to get help. Or if she wants to throw this away and continue this decent in her life.

I've found that in most cases they do come back and since this is the first time I feel hopeful! Cheers!
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2016, 01:33:09 AM »

I'd believe what she says about herself.  Take it at face value.  In any relationship,  it isn't our role to change (or rescue) a partner from who they are.  Accepting who they are,  and looking deep within ourselves to our core values,  is healthy. 

Can you accept who she is and that your role is not to change her?

If so,  can you master the tools (in lesson 3 on the Improving Board) not to be invalidating of her feelings?  Yes,  they can idealize us. Staying true to ourselves while not invalidating is a fine line. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2016, 04:09:35 AM »

I'd believe what she says about herself.  Take it at face value.  In any relationship,  it isn't our role to change (or rescue) a partner from who they are.  Accepting who they are,  and looking deep within ourselves to our core values,  is healthy. 

Can you accept who she is and that your role is not to change her?

If so,  can you master the tools (in lesson 3 on the Improving Board) not to be invalidating of her feelings?  Yes,  they can idealize us. Staying true to ourselves while not invalidating is a fine line. 

Oh, absolutely! Even when she would tell me these things about herself, I never told her she was wrong or ever, ever, ever invalidate her feelings regarding anything. I never tried to rescue her, my job was simply to love her, and that is why in the end, I was able to set her free. I don't have this knight in shining armour mentality as she is the only person that can save herself, should she want it, and that is no one else's job. True change comes from within anyway, never outside forces.
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