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« on: October 08, 2016, 05:17:09 PM »

Hi everyone!

I'm so glad to find this place. My boyfriend has BPD. We have been together for about two years, living together for about six months. I'm going to talk a lot about our history and where we are now... .just so you all know Smiling (click to insert in post)

We met online and immediately fell into a close connection. We have similar interests, and got along really well. Things chugged along extremely well for about three months, at which point he started acting strange and told me that he loved me. I was not quite ready to say that back to him, which I felt guilty about (not knowing at the time that he has BPD). When I confessed this to him, he pushed me away, saying he needed space. We were apart that first time for about two or three days, upon which we reconciled and he became very jealous of anything I did without him. A few weeks later, I went on holiday for a week with a friend, and when I returned, he confessed that he had a hard time being with people and wanted to just be friends. I did not want to be friends, so I told him that, and he lost it. I told him I would take some time to see if I could be his friend. He sent me weird little picture cut-outs of us together and cried whenever we met up. A few weeks into this break up, we reconciled for good.

For the last year and a half, we have been dating exclusively, but every few months is marked by a huge blow up. The worst came in September of 2015, when something happened at work while we were out at a party. He refused to talk to me or tell me what was wrong, leaving me alone at the party and then locking me out of his house when I finally got back there. We screamed at each other a lot, at which point he apologized. A few weeks later, he sent me a letter saying how confused he was about our relationship, indicating that he thought I was perfect in every way and he wanted to be at peace, but he just couldn't be. We talked about it, he calmed down, and moved on.

I will add here that he develops crushes VERY QUICKLY and his relationship pattern before we met was basically him falling into intense obsessions with different girls, only for them to reject him or for him to realize that the fantasy about them did not live up to the reality. He constantly says that he is seeking a ":)isney princess romance." When we met, he had built up an entire love story in his head with this girl at a coffee shop that he had never actually spoken to. Sometimes, he still brings her up when he is isolating himself.

One night in January 2016, he told me that he was still having doubts about different things, and when I said that I understood, he started to talk about us getting married, asking what kind of ring I wanted and where I wanted him to propose. Later that night, I told him that I loved him, and he freaked out and left for three days. After we reconciled, he immediately wanted to plan a vacation, so we went to the Caribbean for a week a few weeks later. It was really fun, and we had a good period of about four months after that.

In April, I got angry with him while out to breakfast one day (we were at breakfast, and he took a work call the entire time -- 1.5 hours) and since then, the push-pull nature of the relationship has been about every month, rather than every several months. Often during these times, he tells me that he is unsure if our relationship is even worthwhile, often repeating that he's looking for a fairy tale, only to come down from that and tell me that he loves me and not to be sad and to be overly loving and adoring.

About a week ago, the most significant episode so far happened. That morning, we woke up, had sex, ate ice cream, had a great morning. He had been talking about buying a house together the day before. During the day, he was triggered by something -- I still don't know exactly what it is. He stopped speaking to me and disappeared for several hours. He returned home late at night and when we woke up the next morning, he told me how much he hated everyone in his life (family, friends, etc -- I was not on the list). Then, he told me he wanted to break up. Since I'm used to this, I started to talk to him about it, to see what was really going on. He refused to speak about it and finally I told him that this constant push and pull was hurting me and causing me anxiety. At this point, he freaked out, screamed at me to get the ___ out of our house, called me crazy, and threw a book at the wall behind my head. I was so upset that I left the state to go stay with my parents.

Two days into this break up, he called to apologize and offer an olive branch (he has never before apologized to me). I told him I still needed time, and two days later, he called to ask me if I wanted to book tickets to Africa with him. When I finally returned home, he refused to speak to me for the first thirty minutes, before we were able to have a more normal conversation about everything.

Now let me give a little more background about him. He is diagnosed but NOT in treatment. He also has a bit of OCD (coin flipping, needing to take certain paths, etc). The constant push and pull with me is one thing, but he also has it with all of his close family members and any friends who have stuck around. Truly, he doesn't really have any friends. His parents, brother and sister-in-law, and I all often feel sick to our stomachs when he is around -- mainly because we don't know what we will get. For instance, last week, when I was out of the state after he kicked me out, he screamed at his parents for emasculating him and ___ing up his childhood, only to ask them to collaborate together on an art project this week. He similarly disparages his brother and anyone he is marginally close to. This is a pattern throughout his life -- everyone always says that when he walks into a room, you never know if you will get happy-go-lucky personality, or angry, screaming, heart-breaking personality. He is heart-breakingly mean when he is in his push stage. When he is in his pull stage, there is no one kinder. If he's particularly bad into his push stage, he loses grips on reality (the Disney princess thing), but when he comes down, he is always able to better articulate his feelings. For instance, while he still harbors doubts about whether or not I am a Disney princess, he says that our relationship is the one thing grounding his life.

Anyways... .long rant. I just need help. Thanks, everyone, for reading.
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2016, 05:51:29 PM »

Hi peripeticallys,

Welcome

I'd like to welcome you to bpdfamily. It sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders and that you understand BPD traits. I read a common thread in your post with your bf with idealization and magical thinking ( disney princess ) BPD is emotional arrested development and a pwBPD often exagerrate like a small child would, a pwBPD also have dychotomous thinking or black and white thinking and don't see the grey area in life or in people and will see you as either all good or all bad.

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He returned home late at night and when we woke up the next morning, he told me how much he hated everyone in his life (family, friends, etc -- I was not on the list).

It sounds like a splitting episode and you're not split black, I'm careful with how I say things to my ex wife, I don't want to trigger shame and get split black, but neither the pwBPD or the non disordered person can control splitting, it's a defense mechanism that protects against anxiety and stress, BPD traits emerge when the person is going through a stressful period, it sounds like he was triggered about something or several things.

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He is heart-breakingly mean when he is in his push stage. When he is in his pull stage, there is no one kinder. If he's particularly bad into his push stage, he loses grips on reality (the Disney princess thing), but when he comes down, he is always able to better articulate his feelings. For instance, while he still harbors doubts about whether or not I am a Disney princess, he says that our relationship is the one thing grounding his life.

That sounds right, the best way to describe is Dr Jeckyl and Mr Hyde. BPD is aslo known as an emotional dysregualtion disorder, the person does not know how to manage emotions or self sooth, I can see how it would be easier to articulate when he's not dysregulate. Therapy would give him a sort of recipe book on how to manage his emotions but he's not going to treatment, we can't change someone else but we can change how we react to others. Life is 20% of what happens to you and 80% of how you react to it. I think that a good starting point would be to keep reading about BPD and depersonalize the behaviors, become indifferent to the behaviors. For example, splitting is not personal, it's not something that a pwBPD can control, keep in mind that a pwBPD split the people that they care about most. I would suggest when he's viewing the world as all bad to try to weather the storm.
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2016, 08:51:55 PM »

Thank you, Mutt! By split black, what do you mean exactly? I'm not familiar with that term.

My bf definitely has some arrested emotional development. In fact, his parents say that it's almost as if he stopped maturing in third grade. He exaggerates offenses and pleasures, assigning unrealistic expectations to people all the time. If they offend them, they're dead to him almost immediately, even as he regrets losing them.

How would you recommend dealing with a splitting episode? Calmly stating my opinion? Asking to talk? Or just leaving and giving him space? It seems like all of those work sometimes, but not all the time.
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2016, 09:01:02 PM »

It sounds like you're plugged in with him. A pwBPD feel low self worth and low self esteem and have a hyper critical inner voice, they're really hard on themselves with the rigid thinking and not seeing the good and the bad as an integrated whole.

Splitting means that a pwBPD don't see you as an integrated whole, the person will put you high on a pedestal or devaluate you and just see bad qualities. For example a good person has bad qualities and a bad person has good qualities. It doesn't capture a realistic picture  about something or someone when we only see one side, it causes suffering for that person and loved ones it's distorted thinking.
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2016, 09:07:55 PM »

Yes, I definitely understand him pretty well. I am the daughter of a father who has severe OCD, and my brother is a heroin addict, so my entire nuclear family is pretty messed up. Ironically, I was initially attracted to my bf for his LACK of issues, but, of course, he was deeply in the "pull" phase and able to appear quite whole and supportive.

I think that my biggest concern is how to be there for him while still protecting myself. Because of all the issues that I lived through as a child, I have a tendency towards co-dependency. It is very, very, very hard for me when he disappears or when he starts going off on the Disney Princess/throw away my whole life tangent or when he is mean for no reason. It's also scary for me when he talks about suicide. I know that I should create more boundaries, but I'm trying to figure out how to best communicate those so they are helpful and not hurtful.
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2016, 09:15:05 PM »

Hi peripeticallys,

I'd like to join Mutt in welcoming you to BPD Family!

I know that I should create more boundaries, but I'm trying to figure out how to best communicate those so they are helpful and not hurtful.

Can I recommend you have a look through some of the communication tools here?:

https://bpdfamily.com/message_board/index.php?topic=287068.msg12704924#msg12704924

You sound calm, which can be a great stabilizer for someone with BPD. I think these tools will help you, although you probably already do at least some of this instinctively.
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2016, 09:27:08 PM »

I just want to explain what boundaries are. Boundaries are an invisible outward protective layer that protects from harm. Boundaries are self compassion and self love, we can't control what others do but we can control how react to them. If my bf does Y, I respond with X. He's probably going to lash out if you had floating boundaries and he's not used to it, but you keep defending your boundaries, your values and eventually he should understand what behavior is not acceptable. It's not to say that he's not going to test them because of emotional arrested development, he lacks boundaries on himself and understanding boundaries of others, think of small child railing against the parents boundaries but keep defending them and the tests will be more infrequent as time passes.
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