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« on: September 08, 2011, 04:14:49 AM »

How did my sess go with T?

'might not be BPD... .might just be mixed up' ... .and I'm a chinaman

'x must be bi as she was married' ... .inexperienced in same sex relationships me thinks

'why do you attract these pd types?' ... .is there more than one?

Confidence in this T's ability to really be there and here me was slowly ebbing away. Anyone else have a similar experience.
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2011, 04:34:53 AM »

Don't be discouraged Misty. Plenty more T in the sea. I went through one before finding a good one. Vet them first and look for one that knows about BPD.

By the way, same sex or not is no consequence. That was a strange thing to say. Picking the obvious
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2011, 05:04:39 AM »

There were times whern all you need a therapist to do is to listen. There are times when a therapist needs to be more active, asking the right questions, streering you in the right direction, holding you in a safe palce whilst you grieve, encouraging self reflection, helping you learn new skills, giving you encouragement and validation where appropriate and empathising with you.  

These are all skills. There are good and bad therapists. Many became therapist because of their own life experiences. My therapist has an exBPDh from 20 years ago who still makes contact with her from time to time to engage in conflict so her knowledge and personal experience is helpful to me.  

It pays to shop around if you are not happy. Make sure that you are not just unhappy because your therapist is challanging your thinking when it need to be challenged. There is no point in have a therpaist who is not going to encourage you to heal, grow and move on.

I would say that you need to feel that you can trust your therapist.

I have two therapists. Not sure what that says about me  .  One is very good on understanding BPD the other is very good at helping me with the children, simple legal issues and finding the right path for me as my new life evolves. Both have met uBPDw when we were together. uBPDw no longer goes to a therapist.

A good therapist can be a huge help to your recovery.

You are right to question if they are the right therapist for you. You will on refelction know the answer to this.

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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2011, 08:18:21 AM »

I agree that you have to find a good T and it may take some shopping around.  My T has been great at being supportive, understanding me and pushing me sometimes.  I also realize, in hindsight, she was extremely gentle with me in the beginning and has only pushed me as I have developed the strength to handle it.  I am very, very grateful for the experience and it has slowly pulled my life out of the hole it was in when I was in a BPD relationship.

I have encountered some "bad" Ts over the years (my ex-H who was not BPD saw a T that seemed to buy all of his junk and seemed to make him worse, not better).

If you don't feel comfortable with this T - I think it might help if you look for another.  T, when it is right, can be so helpful.  I agree with MJJ - at some point the T may try to push you in the right direction - but I also think a really good T can pick the right times to do this so you don't feel uncomfortable.

MJJ - there is nothing wrong with two Ts - strong people get the help they need.  From reading your posts, you certainly have a lot on your plate.  You should feel proud of yourself for reaching out and getting help moving through a difficult part of your life.

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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2011, 08:38:07 AM »

Lot's of T's are morons. But every once in a while, you come across one who is great. That happened to me fifteen years ago. It happened to me again this year.

Then again, 'When the student is ready, the teacher will appear,' as they say.
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2011, 10:24:49 AM »

You just have to be proactive at searching for the right T... .the right one is invaluable.  Many really are not "up" on BPD and their knowledge is limited.
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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2011, 09:30:50 AM »

I just wondered if I could get people's perceptions on a situation as perhaps I am too emotionally involved.

My upwBPD has been seeing psychiatrist and we had been fine.  However after 2 weeks of arguements partner and I agreed I would attend next session to get some help.  Psy asked how we were and pwBPD said we'd been arguing and he was a bit stressed.  Psy said he was surprised as partner had been saying how good we were until then.  After partner agreed and said again about recent arguments psy turned around and told us to take 4 weeks apart NC.

I don't feel that this was good advice at the time becuase surely one of the first things is to try to come to a resolution.  Now my partner has completley backed off and broken up the r/s and I feel it was triggered by this psy's advice as he keeps saying psy told you I needed time away.

His psy also then discharged him suddenly saying that he felt pwBPD was doing well although we were having trouble and partner has been struggling recently.

Does this sound right?
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2011, 09:54:41 AM »

Koalabear - it doesn't sound right to me particularly if you are so upset but then again, I am not a T.  Do you have your own individual T that can be on your side and support you?  That might be a good place to start.

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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2011, 11:32:04 AM »

I am sorry thing are not going as you hoped.   

I can understand why this advice would upset you.

The advice given to your partner was for him. 

What is best for you?

What did you want?

I think getting a therapist to talk this through with is great advice.

Be careful to put your needs first.  Doing the right thing (click to insert in post)

Be kind to yourself  Doing the right thing (click to insert in post)

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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2011, 11:43:43 AM »

How did my sess go with T?

'might not be BPD... .might just be mixed up' ... .and I'm a chinaman

'x must be bi as she was married' ... .inexperienced in same sex relationships me thinks

'why do you attract these pd types?' ... .is there more than one?

Confidence in this T's ability to really be there and here me was slowly ebbing away. Anyone else have a similar experience.

Plenty of good advice here on the thread. Just offering a different view here. Maybe your T was trying to push you to look at yourself? Not to blame BPD, sexual orientation etc. but asking you to look at patterns in your life. Might have been done too early(?) and a bit clumsy... .Just saying this because 2 of the 3 examples you offered were about your X - not about you. Are both sides clear on what is being worked on and how? There seem to be communication problems which need fixing one way or another.

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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2011, 08:02:16 PM »

This was a first session. So fact finding I suspect on behalf of T... .however, I would not expect T to be making judgements and so early on... .and T is so way out on the bi front... .that comment does indicate that T is uneducated on homosexuality.

I doubt if T is challenging... .she needs to build the relationship first.
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2011, 06:58:58 PM »

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I doubt if T is challenging... .she needs to build the relationship first.

That sounds like you're not sure whether or not you can trust this person and I understand. Perhaps it's not what's being said, but its the way that the Therapist is saying it. Wounds are raw and open and advice sometimes pours the salt burn. I've found that a Therapist's job wasn't to tell me how they felt about the situation and what to do about it- but to engage in dialogue so I could figure things out on my own accord.

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An0ught: Just saying this because 2 of the 3 examples you offered were about your X - not about you.

An0ught brings up a very good point. When beginning therapy, people come in pointing fingers away from themselves. It is the Therapist's *job* to turn the finger back into the chest- right at the heart of the matter. That's the only person that counts in the therapy- the one in the room with the broken heart.

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'why do you attract these pd types?' ... .is there more than one?

Certainly this could have been rephrased as: Do you think this woman was attracted to you for a reason? What could that reason be? (How do you see yourself?)

and... .Is this a familiar situation for you or is this the first time in a dramatic and chaotic relationship?

A little bit of back history is important to gather for therapy and it has to be done without narcissistic injury to the client's ego.  That means the dis-allowance of self blame until you are stabilized in your acceptance that the relationship was a cipher for past unresolved conflict.  It has a lesson and one that you wish to recover from. Eventually you'll find out what it is and move forward to live a happier life. That requires a complete letting go of the idealized self and coming to terms with the feelings that arise during growth of the pained, hidden, true self that wants emancipation from required perfection. That true self has all the answers you seek.  You'll find that the more you dig, the more you'll uncover that voice.

Sometimes, when people ask me for advice, I listen for a while, and then ask a question like this: "Suppose you were talking to a very wise person. What would he or she advise you to do?”  That's the true self you have deep inside of you.

Don't give up on therapy- but if the comments made by the Therapist bother you- write them down and discuss them on the next visit.  To speak your mind clearly and without rancor while emotions are flared- is a great skill and takes practice.  Therapy is one way to overcome voicelessness and feel the strong emotions that come from the pain. Good luck and keep your chin up. Press on. It will get better, I promise~  Doing the right thing (click to insert in post)

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