Re: My ex's ex killed herself

[Depression = 72% of members]

Hi Beach Babe, what a tragic story... .I can almost understand her pain. Mine is on the sociopathic spectrum too. I have been reading HG Tudor's books on amazon... .really helpful in a sick way. They really all do the same things with everyone. He says it's instinct. He has a Facebook page and a blog. I listened to an interview with him on U-tube as well. He is a self proclaimed narcissistic/sociopath. He has been diagnosed and he is a writer. His Therapist recommended him writing for his therapy... .so that is his story. When I read what he says, I am shocked at how he explains what I went through to a T! They have reasons for everything they do. He said there are different levels to their capabilities. Mine has a big smirk in our wedding photo- amazing! I know what you mean about wanting to get back at them. I feel like we may be able to because we know what they are... .yet they are out to win and we have to be careful. They don't care how they affect us. He said once we are part of their lives, they consider us a part of them forever. They may try and pull you back into their web anytime. You have to be very strong and stay away... .give him no reason to think he can play games with you. I told my ex that I know what he is now and he can't play games with me. I didn't tell him exactly what he is, but just that I know. He is still playing games with me, but he knows he can't weave his way back in... .I think it takes really strong people to have gone through a relationship with this type. I also read "Husband, Liar, Sociopath", by O.N. Ward... .really good too. I think these people are totally different than true pwBPDs, I think it helps to look at them as the evil devils (my ex self proclaimed) that they are. I am lucky, he said (I asked him some questions) mine wasn't  high level sociopath or he wouldn't have shared some of his "secrets" with me... .they never tell. Mine told me he could manipulate people... .I can see that he would enjoy a funeral... that would be very good supply to him. Once you start to look at them for what they are, it makes sense. They do not look at life the same way we do... .not at all. We have to see them for what they are and stop trying to make them like us. It reminds me of that movie, Life of Pi... when he wants to believe the tiger is sweet and the father throws the lamb in to show him what the tiger is capable of... .that tiger represents a sociopath for sure! So sorry for your troubles...

[Herodias]

Hi Beach Babe, what a tragic story... .I can almost understand her pain. Mine is on the sociopathic spectrum too. I have been reading HG Tudor's books on amazon... .really helpful in a sick way. They really all do the same things with everyone. He says it's instinct. He has a Facebook page and a blog. I listened to an interview with him on U-tube as well. He is a self proclaimed narcissistic/sociopath. He has been diagnosed and he is a writer. His Therapist recommended him writing for his therapy... .so that is his story. When I read what he says, I am shocked at how he explains what I went through to a T! They have reasons for everything they do. He said there are different levels to their capabilities. Mine has a big smirk in our wedding photo- amazing! I know what you mean about wanting to get back at them. I feel like we may be able to because we know what they are... .yet they are out to win and we have to be careful. They don't care how they affect us. He said once we are part of their lives, they consider us a part of them forever. They may try and pull you back into their web anytime. You have to be very strong and stay away... .give him no reason to think he can play games with you. I told my ex that I know what he is now and he can't play games with me. I didn't tell him exactly what he is, but just that I know. He is still playing games with me, but he knows he can't weave his way back in... .I think it takes really strong people to have gone through a relationship with this type. I also read "Husband, Liar, Sociopath", by O.N. Ward... .really good too. I think these people are totally different than true pwBPDs, I think it helps to look at them as the evil devils (my ex self proclaimed) that they are. I am lucky, he said (I asked him some questions) mine wasn't  high level sociopath or he wouldn't have shared some of his "secrets" with me... .they never tell. Mine told me he could manipulate people... .I can see that he would enjoy a funeral... that would be very good supply to him. Once you start to look at them for what they are, it makes sense. They do not look at life the same way we do... .not at all. We have to see them for what they are and stop trying to make them like us. It reminds me of that movie, Life of Pi... when he wants to believe the tiger is sweet and the father throws the lamb in to show him what the tiger is capable of... .that tiger represents a sociopath for sure! So sorry for your troubles...