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« on: November 07, 2011, 01:05:35 AM »

In all my time on these boards, I keep reading this phrase from men on this board, re their exes: "She was crazy about me".

I've always been a bit perplexed at this.

Men normally pursue women. It is like this in all species. Men hunt, women are "caught".  

My r/s with my ex went as far as it did because he - yes - was "crazy about me".

But he is a MAN. It felt normal to me - and to him - for him to do the pursuing and be "crazy about me".

In my other relationships, whenever I, as a woman, ended up in a "pursuit" mode or "crazy about" someone, I would normally be in one down position and this r/s would not go anywhere.

Can men here help me understand how did the fact that a woman was crazy about you - and not the other way around - get your relationship off?

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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2011, 02:09:46 AM »

Dating history:

I'm an attractive athletic guy (not supermodel status) and to be honest have always enjoyed relationships. I feel the difficulty with me was I was dead in the middle where attractive girls would say i wasn't a safe bet based on my appearance. Very attractive girls would date me but it would usually end to me chasing them and eventually being tossed in the garbage.

Relationship history:

My first relationship was to an ok looking gal, she was the one that chased me. Sadly I was stupid and would always leave her for what I thought I wanted (a very attractive female). The fact that she chased me didn't have me worrying and I pretty much treated her like crap. She would do anything and everything for me but I pushed her away and we had a bad fallout. Future relationships would be with very attractive girls but it was missing something important ( the attention and affection the girl that chased me gave and which I missed so much).


Current:

My now exwBPD:

When she met me she chased me, asked for my number and spammed my phone. I was in heaven, here I have this gorgeous gal who is affectionate and chasing me like my 1st love did (finding a girl who is beautiful and chasing you is almost impossible to find). I was having the best of both worlds until it evolved to literally being crazy.




I don't know if my post makes any sense Laugh out loud (click to insert in post). I guess overall I enjoy a hot girl chasing me where having an avg girl chasing me scares me away. Now if only the hot girl was sane
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2011, 08:25:33 AM »

Steelecrayon, your story seems to confirm sunflowers assessment that being in the one down position in a relationship leads to no good. I suspect being chased by someone has more to do with stroking the  ego than it does to relating or connecting in a healthy way with another human. A  more sane woman, wether hot or more ordinary looking, might find your ego needs to be a red flag, unless your ego needs have evolved with age and experience.
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2011, 02:01:57 PM »

Of course my ego is no longer the same, I was speaking in terms of prior to my marriage. After everything I've went thru with my exwBPD physical beauty is no longer of importance to me where personality and behavior seems to play a huge role in what I would seek in a future mate
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2011, 06:04:56 PM »

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Men normally pursue women. It is like this in all species. Men hunt, women are "caught".  

This belief was taught to you. Can you guess by whom? (It was probably one or both of your parents.) It is an idea that they gave you about gender -concerning your "object" orientation rather than "self" direction.  "Self" directed thinking utilizes free will and decision making. Being hunted and "caught" romantically would not happen.

Many cultures still disallow "self" directed thought for women- but if you are living in the Western World, the thought that a woman is caught by a Man is now somewhat outdated unless it continues to be taught in the family's belief system.  Women who are raised with this type of belief become encouraged by girlishness and are what the Greeks call a "Kore;" the eternal girl.

In Greek mythology she was represented by the Goddess Persephone, who presented herself as eternally youthful in a way that caused her not to act- but to be acted upon by others. Hence, she is known as a kidnap victim who gets "caught" by Men.  Most women go through this stage in adolescence, but learn to grow into themselves and make and *keep* commitments to the Self.  Persephone represents a time when a young woman waits for someone or something to come along and shape her life before any other possibility occurs to her that she can do this herself.  She may have something very girlish in her personality that translates to outsiders as a “take care of me” element that allows others to make decisions for her rather than to make decisions for herself.  Consequently she attracts people who wish to control her.

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In my other relationships, whenever I, as a woman, ended up in a "pursuit" mode or "crazy about" someone, I would normally be in one down position and this r/s would not go anywhere.

Since object relations is a theory- there is no difference in the way that gender plays a part. However, Men who *do not* allow themselves to be objectified may cause shame to a woman who projects objectification.  It's not the Woman who is at fault, it's the belief. If objectification is all she understands about her value, then she also values others this way.  In doing so, she may push away any meaningful ability to be seen as her real "self."  The ability to step outside of the projective identification with being objectified may be necessary to see a pattern in relationships and begin a new autonomy that doesn't rely on gender roles or their objectification.  Doing the right thing (click to insert in post)

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