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« on: April 09, 2013, 04:16:22 PM »

This is the problem I'm having... .   before I met her, I had a hard time finding happiness in life. I was very much a loner type in a lot of ways, and most of my close friends were scattered across the country, as well as my family. I am working toward a great career, but I've never gotten much fulfillment from that. I'm 27 years old, and before I met my ex I was beginning to wonder if I'd ever find love or someone to enjoy my life with. I realize now a lot of this is probably called codependency. But... .   what if we've never been able to be happy alone? When I was with her, even during all of her drinking and emotional lability, I have never felt so whole, confident, happy, and enthusiastic about my future. I hear a lot of you saying you want to "get back" to how you were before. But what if you absolutely despise the person you were before?
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2013, 04:35:09 PM »

I can relate. Definitely was a loner before her and wasn't that happy either. I don't really have the answer. Right now I'm just trying to distance myself from the exBPD and work on myself. I think its good to put yourself out there more. Right now I'm taking an improv class and have met some great new people. I think a lot of it can come down to your social circle. Mine typically doesn't date so I'm trying to meet new people. I don't know about you but I've come to realize that maybe I'm a loner because I have these ridiculous standards for women (mainly looks) that make me overlook heaps of quality girls out there.
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2013, 04:49:32 PM »

I had a great life before my ex. Had ... .   Laugh out loud (click to insert in post)

I really did. Just finished uni top of my class and landed a top international job.

And then BPD said ... .   Harm? Come heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere... .      :'(
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2013, 05:14:18 PM »

Yes, I do tend to have very high standards when it comes to looks. My ex was the most beautiful woman I'd ever met, even though she constantly tore herself down about her looks.
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2013, 06:21:32 PM »

Interesting... .  

I kind of get what you're saying though.

I THOUGHT I was happy before her, because I was so anti-relationships.  I thought my life was cool, even though I had suffered depression in the past.  I had friends, hobbies, did well at college and later work.

But only NOW, knowing how happy I was for that year with my girl, do I realise how EMPTY my life was before her.  I was kept occupied, sure.  But I never felt complete. 

She was the missing puzzle piece, I finally realised what life was about - loving her.  And I don't want to love anyone else.  For me, she was it.

So now I have to just muddle through as best  I can.

I hate the saying "It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all" - it's so wrong!  If I hadn't loved my girl, I'd be blissfully ignorant of the happiness I was capable of, and now don't have.
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2013, 06:33:19 PM »

I hate that saying as well. The only way I will be happy I "loved and lost" her is if I meet another beautiful woman to spend my life with who is even more of a fit for me and I can use the things I learned in the relationship. That is certainly no certainty. As it is now, sure I can realize she was doing this or that that isn't normal in a relationship and she had issues. But, I was still happier than I'd ever been and finally felt good about myself and life.
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2013, 10:24:38 PM »

Dear mtmc01,

Having grown up in an alcoholic/BPD household, I definitely had self-worth deficits.  I looked for someone who could make me feel complete. 

I found an uNPD to whom I was married 17 years.  I did feel like he completed me when I met him and during our first turbulent years.  But he could not complete me.  It turned out our combined unmet needs hindered my own growth.

In hindsight, I was looking for someone who might mask my deficiencies.  I now believe that, with God's help, I am the only one that can do internal repair work on my deficiencies.

I wish my younger self could have thought to simply enjoy the company of others, especially in friendships, until I was content with myself and focused with life goals.  Then I might have found a spouse to walk through life alongside me as a partner and companion.

I do not know if I will date again.  But I know I will not be ready until I feel grounded and satisfied within myself.  I am liberating myself from codependency!  Then, just maybe, I'll find a companion and partner.   Smiling (click to insert in post)

Warm regards!
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2013, 03:55:30 AM »

This is the problem I'm having... .   before I met her, I had a hard time finding happiness in life. I was very much a loner type in a lot of ways, and most of my close friends were scattered across the country, as well as my family. I am working toward a great career, but I've never gotten much fulfillment from that. I'm 27 years old, and before I met my ex I was beginning to wonder if I'd ever find love or someone to enjoy my life with. I realize now a lot of this is probably called codependency. But... .   what if we've never been able to be happy alone? When I was with her, even during all of her drinking and emotional lability, I have never felt so whole, confident, happy, and enthusiastic about my future. I hear a lot of you saying you want to "get back" to how you were before. But what if you absolutely despise the person you were before?

Why did you feel lonely? Because you didn't feel kinship with anyone? Because you felt an outsider? Or because you wanted what others wanted?

Go watch this video, and yes, forget about the 'suicidal thoughts' within the video. Forget that.  That's not the underlying message or core from the video. It's to identify who is your tormentor. Because it's your thought ... . and your thoughts are not WHO you really ARE.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o80Q4pLvTE

If you don't get fulfillment out of your career, have you made the right career choice? If it's not making you happy? Why continue? Go watch this video which touches the core of that ... .

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLD0P372xxQ&&hd=1&autoplay=1&fs=1

Why continue with something you don't like? What is your goal in life? Or basically the question would be ... . why do you life? What is the purpose in life? Go watch this video.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU0PYcCsL6o

You ask yourself ... . were you ever capable of being happy on your own? Well, it's not unlikely that you have to answer that question with a 'yes'. Why? Because this relationship did not act as attachment to you as a person, but it fitted inside you. Codependency is nothing else besides being 10 years old and loving your mother. That can't be the bond of a relationship. A relationship acts as an extension to life, not the fulfillment. Not the purpose. The reason why you felt so good, is because it filled(!) the holes inside you which you were (in)consciously aware of. As you stated yourself, you weren't happy. You weren't fulfilled yet. Because of her attention, the way she filled you, you need to get aware of who you really are. She isn't you my man. Codependency means she WAS you. A healthy relationship can never be a codependent r/s. You are not her son nor were she your daughter. This relationship has told you, that there are things, which you as a person need to work on. You aren't happy? Why is that? Who is the real you? You don't have friends in a specific field? Go seek a different field. You are still young. What is keeping you at bay? Who are you really? Do you matter? Go watch this video.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptQJJZZ2Oxw

A relationship is not the purpose of life nor does it act as something which is the last puzzle piece of life. Why? Because otherwise without a relationship you would always be sad. Do you know how many singles there are in the world? You think they are all sad and grieving the way we do?

This immaculate amazing ___*ed fresh pile of horsdung called BPD has shown you your own weaknesses. You need to be happy of your own before you can give someone else happiness. If you aren't you seek for ways to achieve that. Let go of people who drag down your energy, let go of a career which is not making you  happy. What ... . your parents won't be happy with that? So what, you are an adult. You need to stand up for your own responsibility. And of course you will struggle. Thats why there are boards like this, thats why there are things called therapy. Thats why there are things called anti depressants because depression or feeling emptiness actually does change the biological wires in your brain.

You know, what you stated her in the personal inventory board is an AWESOME lesson for you. Why? Because you realize you weren't happy before her. Why? Why weren't you happy? Write it down, go seek cognitive therapy for this. Disect the process of thinking which makes you BELIEVE that you aren't happy. A 'mind' is not you, a mind does not define you. A mind is purely a few braincells, which control your life? I mean ... . mate? Are you going to allow a few braincells to RUN your life? Forever?

And with dissecting this thinking process I mean try to put it in many steps as possible. It starts with:

1. A thought

2. ... .

3. ... .

4. ... .

5. ... .

6. ... .

7. ... .

8. ... .

9. ... .

10. ... .

11. ... .

12. I AM EMPTY! I WASN'T HAPPY!

This is a pure example. Your mind works in steps. This means that before you reach that 12th point ... . you have many many other 'steps' in your thinking process. With cognitive therapy you can write down those steps and work on them individually to BREAK the chain.

You feel empty, but you clearly state what is not making you happy. You realize that! That is such a power. It really is true, you need to be able to love yourself, and care about yourself before you have enough to give another soul that love and care. Why? Because you live your own life, and have a relationship as an extension, not as the fulfillment of life. This will also make sure that every next step in your life, whether a r/s breaks... . you will have a life on your own.

Please my man, please watch all the video's i've put in these texts and please try to read everything i've written here.

Your first step to recovery is what you wrote down here. Your observation and analysis. It's fully up to you to continue with this. If you want to dive into another r/s, i'm pretty sure, and don't get me wrong, you are likely to fail again. If you would take cocaine, or heroin. It's likely you will feel fantastic. Is this me saying you should try it? No ofcourse not. Because it's not healthy, same as being codependent. Why do I give this example? Because life without it, will feel bland ... . will feel empty ... . and therefore you would like to try again. However, deep down it shows that there are things wrong with you, which you need to work on. For every question there is an answer.

Interesting... .  

I kind of get what you're saying though.

I THOUGHT I was happy before her, because I was so anti-relationships.  I thought my life was cool, even though I had suffered depression in the past.  I had friends, hobbies, did well at college and later work.

But only NOW, knowing how happy I was for that year with my girl, do I realise how EMPTY my life was before her.  I was kept occupied, sure.  But I never felt complete. 

She was the missing puzzle piece, I finally realised what life was about - loving her.  And I don't want to love anyone else.  For me, she was it.

So now I have to just muddle through as best  I can.

I hate the saying "It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all" - it's so wrong!  If I hadn't loved my girl, I'd be blissfully ignorant of the happiness I was capable of, and now don't have.

Your reaction is the typical reaction of a drug addict who's withdrawing on heavy hard drugs. When I read your post, the first thing I thought was literally, this is so much BALONEY. She made you whole? No, thats not the truth. She pointed out your weaknesses. It's not the other way around (please go watch the video's I posted above your reaction). You have to muddle through as best as you can? Why? My dear mango why? Life is NOT about loving someone. If that is your sole purpose in life. If that is the case, you will never be truly happy, because deep inside your are not happy with yourself, and having a partner is purely brushing your ego, filling in the voids and covering your own weaknesses. Everyone has weaknesses, we as humans have the ability to disect those weaknesses and verify where they come from. From our FOO? Are we in FOG ? Are we happy with our career? Are we happy with the sport we do? Why do we do things?

Do you do things in life to pleasure others? Or yourself? Why live a life to only pleasure others.  You cannot associate love with the 'feelings' you shared with your girl. Why? Because every time, in every new friendship, you seek a similar bond. You wont find that. The high you get from cocaine won't be found in eating french fries. That will not work until you meet another BPD in your life. What you shared with your girl, is not love. What you shared with your BPD partner, was purely a sign and show where your weaknesses are.

BPD is not love. It isn't. They are emotional predators, to a extent even sociopath. See BPD as a plastic cup with holes in it. The moment you pour it and fill the void completely the cup will be full. But it will slowly bleed empty through the holes. The holes you can identify as your own problems. The real deep down Mango_flower is not a codependent person where her life depends on the joy of others.

And you know, the both of you, the moment you actually are happy with yourself, you make the choices for yourself, you establish yourself as a person and can be genuinly happy with something you achieve, a friend, something with work. You will find true love eventually, not only with yourself, but also with someone else.

Society nowadays is to much peer pressured. The pressure on everyone's shoulders in relative rich countries is so immaculate. We have to have kids, a family life, etc. We have to have a car, our kids need the best education. Seriously, save up some money and go live in a monastry somewhere in the mountains in China, Tibet or anything. You need to unplug from your current life, because this isn't heading in the right direction. Step outside the box.

I sincerely apologize if I offended anyone here. I really didn't mean to offend anyone, just to shed my perspective on this.

You know what happens to me when I read the posts of you guys? As i've been following the stories from the both almost completely. I doubt myself why I should continue with life? Because you both feel empty, not well, mourn cry and maybe just feel bland and depressed. I unfortunately go one step further. I don't see the point in continuining, and posts like this contribute to it. It's better to have had a short life being happy, than a dreadful f***ked up life hoping for that one moment or chasing that one high forever and ever. Maybe you guys feel guilt because you might leave loving parents or family behind, or brothers or sisters. Which in my case is none of it. Posts like this, make me feel very sad and drive me to an end where I am ready to pull the plug. I am, because I don't feel a point of continuing.

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