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VIDEO: "What is parental alienation?" Parental alienation is when a parent allows a child to participate or hear them degrade the other parent. This is not uncommon in divorces and the children often adjust. In severe cases, however, it can be devastating to the child. This video provides a helpful overview.
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« on: May 31, 2013, 01:59:23 PM »

I can't seem to get closure, even in my own head.

7 months on, I still am prone to tears just starting to roll in public places when something reminds me of her... .

I feel resentful that I am still here, silently loving her after all she has done.  I think I love TOO unconditionally.  I'm too loyal.

She has a tendency to see the bad in the past, and paint people black. I'm the opposite, I only remember the good.

But with the forgetting of the bad, it means that I have a tendency to idealize her... . or idolise her, who knows. 

I'm starting to convince myself that she isn't BPD, she is just hyper-sensitive and I was not sensitive enough to her needs, so she left because she deserved better. (I am blunt, and she used to call me "autistic brain" because I'm not that sensitive... . (yet funnily enough I am one of the softest people you'll meet, hence why i'm still crying over her, 7 months on... . )

I'll never know the truth as to what really happened.  And that kills me.

Was she really cunning and devious and had my replacement lined up?  Or was she genuine when she said "I don't know how this happened, I never thought I'd fall in love with somebody else, I wish I hadn't".  Maybe that's normal, it happens.  Maybe she's normal and I'm just projecting BPD or something?

My poor brain this evening... .
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2013, 02:44:55 PM »

So sorry you're hurting, Mango Flower.  You may never get closure from her.  It doesn't seem to be in the BPD's capacity.  Maybe just think of it in this way:

If she really was the love of your life, you'd still be together.  Since you're not, it must mean that someone else is the love of your life, and that you just haven't met them yet.  Someone who is the love of your life would have stayed.  It's not her, it's going to be someone healthier and more consistent.  It will be what you deserve.
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2013, 02:46:16 PM »

Hi Mango_flower,

I can't seem to get closure, even in my own head.

Getting closure for us, is like coming to terms with grief.  It doesn't happen suddenly.  The pain comes in waves.  We take extra care of ourselves when we go through it.  And it helps when we find a way to ritualize the grief.  Getting closure for us, is about letting go.  And letting go may be one of the hardest things in life.  

7 months on, I still am prone to tears just starting to roll in public places when something reminds me of her... .

If it gets too much, then avoid the places that remind you.  But consider finding occasions when you invite the reminder.  Schedule the grief, so that it does not sneak up on you.

I feel resentful that I am still here, silently loving her after all she has done.  I think I love TOO unconditionally.  I'm too loyal.

You love the way you need to love.  It's ok to be loyal.  I remember loyalty being a very important quality I valued.  I still value it, but not above other qualities now.  It's fine to be loyal to someone else.  But be certain your loyalty is justified and returned with equal commitment.  For a while, it might be more important to be more "loyal" to yourself before you give your loyalty to anyone else.  

She has a tendency to see the bad in the past, and paint people black. I'm the opposite, I only remember the good.

But with the forgetting of the bad, it means that I have a tendency to idealize her... . or idolise her, who knows.  

You may need to practice remembering the bad.  Because to only remember the good, means you are sabotaging your decision to disengage from her.

When we are attached to someone, it is human nature to be biased towards those things which reinforce our attachment.  If you are choosing to detach from your SO, you will need to practice recalling the memories that reinforce your detachment.

I'm starting to convince myself that she isn't BPD, she is just hyper-sensitive and I was not sensitive enough to her needs, so she left because she deserved better. (I am blunt, and she used to call me "autistic brain" because I'm not that sensitive... . (yet funnily enough I am one of the softest people you'll meet, hence why i'm still crying over her, 7 months on... . )

You need to consider that your tendency to recall only the good, is an act of bargaining (a stage of grieving).  And you are not quite willing to accept letting go.

I'll never know the truth as to what really happened.  And that kills me.

You may never know the truth, but you will come to accept things as they have come to be.  If... . you endeavor to let go.

Was she really cunning and devious and had my replacement lined up?  

Maybe, but pwBPD are notoriously effective at seducing people.  There is a reason why they are often compared to Greek sirens.

Or was she genuine when she said "I don't know how this happened, I never thought I'd fall in love with somebody else, I wish I hadn't".  

It may help you to see their actions as more instinct based, than intellectually based.  And this would be true.  She follows her instincts, and probably doesn't understand them.

Maybe that's normal, it happens.  Maybe she's normal and I'm just projecting BPD or something?

Maybe it's normal for her.  But I don't think she's not disordered.

Why do you need answers?  Because as human beings, we seek to find meaning behind the big experiences in our lives.  And I think you will find that meaning for yourself.  You may not find a specific answer that makes all your questioning go away.  If you are like me, then your very act of questioning and seeking is an effort to avoid facing painful things about yourself.  I say, keep seeking for your answer, but don't forget to also take care of yourself.

Best wishes, Schwing
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2013, 03:05:52 PM »

In my opinion, there is no such thing as being too loyal. Being loyal means sticking by someone no matter what adversity faces them.  On the flip side, it means holding those you are loyal to accountable and responsible for their actions when they are the ones in the wrong.  Tough love if you will.  By giving in and saying its ok when that person is out of control, you are doing both them and yourself a disservice.

I share with you your same fears of your exBPD being happy off with their new SO while you seem to be broken and a shell of yourself without her.  There are couple things to think about:

1)What does happiness really mean? You know what your BPD-ex struggles with.  :)o you really believe they are happy? Or are they surviving?

2)As bad as it sucks, you can't really apply logic to anything concerning your BPD-ex. I know that your ex moving onto another person after a week is heartbreaking, and yes it is totally plausible and even likely that she lined up a back up plan.  Mine CONSTANTLY had a back up plan.  Someone to jump to when I would inevitably leave her. I caught her at least 3 times "dating" someone else in addition to myself.  Generally a guy in a different town, someone who she could talk to, who would tell her they loved her, but wasn't physically there like I was.  It doesn't make it any less painful.  My point is, your ex having bounced to someone else does NOT mean that they are "over" you or that they never loved you.  It means they do not know how to survive without being with SOMEONE.

3) As I kind of mentioned in #2, don't for a second think that you are as gone in the wind to them as you feel.  They might outwardly appear totally fine and happy and normal.  It is a facade.


I know EXACTLY what you are feeling right now.  Self doubt.  Feelings of inadequacy.  That they never loved you like you loved them.  

Quit asking yourself these questions.  There aren't any answers.  Feel comfortable in the fact that you did the best you could.  It isn't a matter of it not being good enough; it's that no matter what, it was destined to fail.  I know it is hard, and I am right there with you working through this.  But you just have to keep believing that this is just one of those unfortunate times in life where you had no control.
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