Being in the groove is prescisely non-thinking... . the music and words write themselves... . as Young says, "There is no way you own it."
I find this thread immensely helpful although I don't understand this concept of dissociation and I think it is key to understanding BPD.
I also think that the unconscious plays a huge role in BPD. I also see the unconscious as having a very friendly role sometimes... .
I think you can trip when dissociating... . it is like a high somehow... . is that what you mean by scary but also fascinating qcaroir?
Would the dissociative part of BPD explain why they don't go to school, appointments, etc, etc, etc... . they are somewhere else... . ?
I don't know where this is going; however, I would love to hear some thoughts... .
Reality
I think it's important to understand dissociation is not exclusive to BPD. We all do it from time to time. Just "zoning out" in front of the tv is technically dissociation. I think generally it is anytime you are not mentally focused on the here and now.
From wikipedia: (emphasis mine)
":)issociation is a term in psychology describing a wide array of experiences from mild detachment from immediate surroundings to more severe detachment from physical and emotional experience. It is commonly displayed on a continuum.[1]
The major characteristic of all dissociative phenomena involves a detachment from reality – rather than a loss of reality as in psychosis.[2][3][4][5] In mild cases, dissociation can be regarded as a coping mechanism or defense mechanisms in seeking to master, minimize or tolerate stress – including boredom or conflict.[6][7][8] At the nonpathological end of the continuum, dissociation describes common events such as daydreaming while driving a vehicle. Further along the continuum are non-pathological altered states of consciousness.[1][9][10]More pathological dissociation involves dissociative disorders, including dissociative fugue and depersonalization disorder with or without alterations in personal identity or sense of self. These alterations can include: a sense that self or the world is unreal (depersonalization and derealization); a loss of memory (amnesia); forgetting identity or assuming a new self (fugue); and fragmentation of identity or self into separate streams of consciousness (dissociative identity disorder, formerly termed multiple personality disorder) and complex post-traumatic stress disorder.[11][12] Dissociative disorders are sometimes triggered by trauma, but may be preceded only by stress, psychoactive substances, or no identifiable trigger at all.[13] The ICD-10 classifies conversion disorder as a dissociative disorder.[1] The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders groups all dissociative disorders into a single category.[14]Although some dissociative disruptions involve amnesia, other dissociative events do not.[15] Dissociative disorders are typically experienced as startling, autonomous intrusions into the person's usual ways of responding or functioning. Due to their unexpected and largely inexplicable nature, they tend to be quite unsettling."
