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« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2013, 03:34:40 PM »

I would hope that they don't know the damage they are doing.  But really, when I look back and examine the bad stuff my ex did, it is really hard to believe that she acted without knowing.  She lacked (still does) insight into her illness and refused to believe anything was wrong with her.  She said she "may have some issues" but nothing more than anyone else.

I believe that it comes down in life of how you treat other people and how you are remembered by them.  If it's bad actions, and behavior that is your m.o. then you will be known for that. 

Like many on this site, I have been filtering out a lot of the bad that they do and just remembering the good. (working on that one!) 

Here's just one small example of how effing selfish my ex was.  I once bought her two very, very expensive concert tickets (front rows, backstage passes etc) as a gift. She then thought that she could take her friend to the concert rather than me.  She got mad when I said that the tickets were for us, not for her and her friend and she truly thought I was being selfish by giving her the tickets with the "stipulation" that we go together.  Who does that?  Regardless of mental illness.

So I don't know whether or not they know how much they hurt us, but we all know the damage they inflict.
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« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2013, 05:40:37 PM »

MCC please tell me how you got there. I need to move forward and lose the sadness and anxiety. I don't contact her. I self reflect. I cry. I try to get out of my self. It's been almost five months for me. I feel like I'm not making much progress. I want the pain to stop once and for all.  How long for you?
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« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2013, 07:58:19 PM »

I feel that they do know what they are doing on some level and I do believe they are aware they hurt us. But they can't take responsibility for it or acknowledge it because then they would have to deal with the shame and guilt that comes with it. So it is easier to push blame on someone else. My ex BPD told me when she left me for someone else that genocide offer her the one thing herbalists wanted... . a family. Funny thing was we were a.family. Her kids were my kids and we did everything a.family does. It just didn't move as fast as she wanted. So she sped it up and found someone else who would.give her what she wanted right then and now. This is what I found hard to believe... . She would say she didn't love him and she didn't want him. That she loved me and wants  me. But she was willing to stay with him to fill this fantasy in her mind of what her family should look like. Never mind he is head over heels in love with her... . She doesn't feel an ounce love towards him but she is willing to play along to play out this family life.in her mind. I feel sorry for the guy. To be in love with someone who really doesn't love you but then I think he dug his own grave... . Lay in it.
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« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2013, 12:11:06 PM »

MCC please tell me how you got there. I need to move forward and lose the sadness and anxiety. I don't contact her. I self reflect. I cry. I try to get out of my self. It's been almost five months for me. I feel like I'm not making much progress. I want the pain to stop once and for all.  How long for you?

Thanks for the question... . as this was / (still is slightly) a process for me... . total time I guess would be about 2 years, but this wasn't the conventional break up and never talk again... .

I recycled with mine about 5+ times over the past 2 years... . this was detrimental to my recovery, to say the least, but end the end when I finally had enough, it turned out to be the silver lining of the entire situation!  Let me explain... .

Every time we'd recycle, it would obviously reignite old feelings... . then we'd break up after a few weeks and the cycle of pain would start all over again!  Talk about crazy, I know... .

BUT... . then somewhere along the way, I shifted the concentration on MYSELF... . it was foreign to me as it was a whole new way of thinking... .

I began going to the gym... . everyday! I immersed myself in working out, sometimes 2x a day.  I dove into my work, my friends, my family... .

For me, this provided such clarity of the situation.  It enabled me to see things in a whole new light!

I participated in this board on a daily basis, and I still do.  I found this effective because even as I type this, I am constantly realizing new things about MYSELF and the r/s!

For me, my understanding was the key to acceptance.  I am quite a logical thinker and problem solver by nature, and my xBPD was literally the puzzle that I had to put together.  Now that it's together, I can safely take it apart, put it back in the box, and put it in the closet... . Laugh out loud (click to insert in post)

As I was improving my own self worth by the actions that I said above, I found myself wanting more... . more from life... . more from a r/s... . the bar was raised, so to speak because I deserve more!

So, in May, the x tried to come around again.  I did communicate with her for a few weeks, but I could see things so much more clearly now... . She was on another rebound, attempting to triangulate me with someone else.  Was still trying to bait me, use jealousy against me, and hurt me... .

I fell into this for a minute, but I quickly got to the point to where I WAS DONE!  I had enough.  I was sick and tired of being sick and tired.  For the first time in 4 years of knowing her, I was able to stand up for MYSELF.  I laid the boundary that she was not going to continue to treat me like that anymore!  Needless to say, she disappeared after that... .

Come July, we talked briefly.  I told her that I was not hanging onto the anger/hate for her any longer... . It's too exhausting and takes too much out of MY life!  This, as with everything else with her, was dismissed.  She, of course, had to flip it around and take it as an "attack," and told me not to contact her anymore.  (mind you, she was the one who contacted me in the first place?)  Needless to say, NC since then and I could really care less if I ever speak to her again... .

So, If you've made it this far into this saga, my point is that as I became healthier, I saw the actions that I chose to ignore before... . I saw that she is the same person who was repeating the same patterns.  There was nothing different about her.  Nothing that I wanted to try and hold onto anyways... . I was no longer in fear of her and she no longer had any control over ME!  I lived too long having to filter my words/actions trying to gain her "approval," and quite frankly I grew sick of how dismissive and shi^^y she made me feel!  I reclaimed my testicles from her purse!

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« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2013, 12:14:55 PM »

So very excellent MCC!

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« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2013, 12:29:14 PM »

Thank you MCC for indulging my with that. Sorry you had to recycle and stay stuck in the crap for so long but it sounds like you have your head on straight at last and that is what I need. I am slowly getting there. There is no roadmap so depend on watching others that succeed and ask them how they did it. I am all about the self reflection but not perfect. I still fall into the "her" at times. That is the worst and I recognize it but the feelings don't just evaporate. Again, thank you.
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« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2013, 12:51:47 PM »

I think when you are ready to accept them as they are... it becomes much easier and then you can finally let go. Helps a lot to have someone you are seeing. Was going on very mild slow dates with a gal about 6 mos ago... was still drawn to exBPDgf... but enjoying dinner and movies and having someone that you could talk with helped a lot. (Didn't talk about pwBPD at all.) Started thinking I would take things to next level, went to lunch with exwife and asked if she was sure we were done (since I was going to move on)... and she broke down a bit and said she wanted to be dating and spending time with me... and with a couple lovely/sane women making it clear they didn't share my exBPDgf''s stated view of me (devils inlaw of some sort from what I recall)... I finally was able to stick to the NC and move on.

Working out helps a great deal, can get stress out in a healthy way... gives some time to think. Found that back when I was hurting from my pwBPD taking up immediately with another guy and flaunting it... . resolving the anger/hurt by exercising much harder did wonders. After that I would start to feel bad for the guy and want to warn him... . which to me meant it was effective at dealing with it.

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