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« on: May 16, 2014, 12:26:25 PM »

After 4 months NC, my exBPD bf just checked my LinkedIn profile. I could block him, but I find myself so curious and kind of obsessed now wondering if he's missing me etc. And in a way, it made me happy to know he is still thinking about me.
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2014, 01:17:38 PM »

I think the people that we classify as "they", and as "BPD" on this site, have feelings like every other human being. I strongly believe that even the worst people in the world have feelings somewhere. So if we meant anything to them, yes, i believe they think about us too and they eventually miss us too.

Reading the posts and information about borderline, it often makes me feel bad about how we talk about those people, that we suspect to fit the criteria. We make them sound like such monsters with no heart and soul. Isn't that the easy way out?

I honestly believe my ex loved, and still loves me. It's a very unhealthy love (from both sides), but it's still what she would describe as "love" if asked. When i didn't do something wrong, sometimes for a week or a little more, we had really good times, like a healthy relationship. I believe we both didn't play just a show when we felt a deep connection to each other, when we both were amazed and so happy the way we felt in each others arms, the way we could relax or laugh together, the few trips we made together... . call it two dysfunctional people and an unhealthy love, but i believe the feelings were always very mutual from both sides, at least they were (and still are) from me and her.

It sttill doesn't make the relationship work however... . it's still dysfunctional.

I did my share of bad things, but never out of the blue i started criticizing her. This is what really hurt me, and i know it will never stop. Even if in those moments she fears i don't love her, and feels abandoned, and i should just take her in my arms and tell her "don't be scared, i love you". I know she will never be able to just say how she feels in these moments, and i know i myself will never react in a calm way to her belitteling words in these moments. People don't change very much, and usually not very fast. So it's really a doomed situation with no good outlook to ever become a healthy relationship.

What i'm trying to say i guess... .

I believe if the relationship you had with them felt deep in some way, connected... . i don't know how to say it. If you always trusted in each other that you both really love each other. I always had this with her... . this is why it's so hard. I know she still loves me too, misses me too. I think they all do if the relationship meant something to them.

This is why i refuse to label her as "BPD" (even if i told her this in an angry email towards the end). Yes she has traits that could be labeled as what we call BPD, but in the end it's just a person with quite a few problems that I can NOT solve. Like she can't solve mine FOR ME.  Idea

Sorry for venting / ranting here... .

I'm simply trying to say, yes i believe they miss us too (as above, it depends on the individuals, sometimes the other person really doesn't care, happend to me as well). This makes it easier in some way, and harder in another... . Sometimes i wish she wouldn't care, because it's so much harder to say stop and walk away... . i know her love is not healthy, but it's still love for her... .   :'( :'( :'(

Sorry, i guess you got me somehow with your post... . this is hard... .   :'(

I believe they miss us too.   

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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2014, 01:20:35 PM »

You both need to be careful.  I would bet your BPDex was looking to see how you were doing, yes. And would have been HAPPY if you were suffering. And would internally be angry (and externally retaliate) if you are succeeding.

Detach, detach, detach. 
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2014, 01:55:15 PM »

I'm with you about the love thing. We absolutely loved each other and there was plenty that he did to demonstrate his love and care for me. Unfortunately, there was plenty he did to exhibit his dysfunction too. He's never been vindictive or gone out of his way to hurt me. But he had major insecurities and fears of abandonment and drank too much etc. Definitely some borderline characteristics and it was toxic for us both on the end
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2014, 02:17:18 PM »

Tango, this is exactly what i mean. In the end it's definitely not a healthy love.

I think my previous post could come accross as "contact encouragement", i was afraid of this while writing it. I'm aware this could potentially trigger some non's (really not a friend of these labels). I just tried to point out that i believe every human being has feelings.

Crystal is right tho... . detaching is the only way to find my own reasons for entering such a relationship in the first place, and to remove myself from an unhealthy situation. We owe it to ourselves, nobody should be treated so badly, no matter how much this person says they love us in the other moments.
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2014, 02:37:43 PM »

Sorry for venting / ranting here... .

Jibber -- That, my friend, was not a rant.  It was a powerful reflection.  Thank you for posting it.

Separately, I'm going to give my own spin on detachment here:   As we "detach" we learn to hold, examine, accept, process all emotions -- good and bad, hurt and love.  I still love my ex-girlfriend -- and though that doesn't mean I need to express it to her, or have it validated by her, it's been useful for me to feel that love, accept it, and know that I am capable of such emotion.   (For too long I thought detachment meant erasing.  Now I think of detachment as accepting both the love and loss).
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2014, 05:07:24 PM »

You both need to be careful.  I would bet your BPDex was looking to see how you were doing, yes. And would have been HAPPY if you were suffering. And would internally be angry (and externally retaliate) if you are succeeding.

Detach, detach, detach. 

Yes, yes, and yes.  Amen. 
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2014, 05:18:58 PM »

I think that part of accepting what we've experienced is acknowledging the abuse.  :)isorders and labels aside, I was abused in my r/s.  I didn't bring abuse to the table.  I was patient, compassionate, and tried to help my ex in every way that I could, until I had to leave because it was unhealthy for me.

I cannot bring myself to feel sorry for abusers.  Sorry.  I just can't.  I feel that it's codependent to feel sorry for people who abuse.  I know that's not progressive thinking.  Before this r/s I had trucks loads of compassion for everyone, abusers included, knowing that they had likely experienced dysfunction and abuse themselves.  I don't feel that way anymore.  Not after the r/s experience.  I don't hate my ex, nor am I angry at him, I just refuse to feel sorry for someone who abused me.  Now I'm ranting.  Sorry... .
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2014, 05:35:27 PM »

I cannot bring myself to feel sorry for abusers.  Sorry.  I just can't.  I feel that it's codependent to feel sorry for people who abuse.  I know that's not progressive thinking.  Before this r/s I had trucks loads of compassion for everyone, abusers included, knowing that they had likely experienced dysfunction and abuse themselves.  I don't feel that way anymore.  Not after the r/s experience.  I don't hate my ex, nor am I angry at him, I just refuse to feel sorry for someone who abused me.  Now I'm ranting.  Sorry... .

Nothing to apologize for.  Valid points.   Abuse not acceptable. 
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