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« on: September 12, 2014, 06:59:29 AM »

I had a bit of an odd message from a friend of mine the other day referring to an email he had received. Apparently the IP etc was stripped (is that eve possible? I don't know much about web browsing in that sense) and it was from an address he did not recognise. The message was written vaguely but suggested the sender was someone my friend knew well and that the sender knew my ex (non).

Obviously he asked if I had sent him it but I don't even know his email (we chat on FB). The message was not particularly positive and we both found it very strange. It got me pondering, would a pwBPD pretend to be someone else to frame or set them up? My ex's new dBPDgf knows this friend and I still talk, I regrettably do not speak to my ex anymore, could she be attempting to sabotage my contact with this person? She could feel threatened that perhaps it may lead me to speak to my ex again?

It's all a bit creepy tbh. :S
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2014, 08:42:37 AM »

My ex told me a story with one of her previous boyfriends whom she met through on-line dating and they had a sort of long distance relationship. Apparently she created another name/photo/profile on the dating site and started messaging her ex - when he started flirting back she revealed who she was. I can't believe that I didn't take such previous behaviour seriously. I thought well with me she won't have such problems because I am a nice guy and she will appreciate me even more. I feel like an idiot right now!
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2014, 01:14:27 PM »

But would a pwBPD actually pretend to be another specific person (rather than just a made up persona/alias) in order to place that person in a negative light?

One of my friends got another funny message, from a different IP and email but with a similar tone and in this one it referred to the pwBPD! Calling her names etc. I just don't know if that perhaps seems too much work for a pwBPD, to actually pretend to be a specific other person and represent them in a way that makes them seem like the aggressor and them seem like the victim. I know that is the position they would like but would they actually do it?

I'm not sure how far these people would go to manipulate.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2014, 05:57:18 PM »

One of my friends was involved with a pwBPD and she created a fake Facebook profile of one of her teachers and tried to flirt with my friend,  then "found" the messages and started to accuse him of cheating on her.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that they can be capable of insane behaviour.  There is little rhyme or reason to the BPD tactics. 

Your suspicions could be true. Just work on extracating yourself from any more weirdness.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2014, 06:11:17 PM »

During my r/s I received an email from an ex girlfriend. I replied in a friendly way and told my BPD about it. But I couldnt understand how the ex had found my email address.

I now realise that it was almost certainly my BPD pretending to be her to see how I would respond! I never considered that at the time, how naive of me.
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2014, 06:19:59 PM »

Based on my personal experience (and so much of other stories I've read), yes.  My uBPDexh was in his glory whether pretending to be someone else online or going through great efforts to sabotage a person or situation…all in the name of it being a necessity of course and from his "Hero" standpoint.  I put a kibosh on many things I caught him in the act of doing or was gearing up to do.  But when I look back at the way he absolutely RELISHED in those opportunities to DECEIVE others, I am once again reminded how scary-sick of a person I was actually stuck with.

I had a bit of an odd message from a friend of mine the other day referring to an email he had received. Apparently the IP etc was stripped (is that eve possible? I don't know much about web browsing in that sense) and it was from an address he did not recognise. The message was written vaguely but suggested the sender was someone my friend knew well and that the sender knew my ex (non).

Obviously he asked if I had sent him it but I don't even know his email (we chat on FB). The message was not particularly positive and we both found it very strange. It got me pondering, would a pwBPD pretend to be someone else to frame or set them up? My ex's new dBPDgf knows this friend and I still talk, I regrettably do not speak to my ex anymore, could she be attempting to sabotage my contact with this person? She could feel threatened that perhaps it may lead me to speak to my ex again?

It's all a bit creepy tbh. :S

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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2014, 02:14:08 AM »

During my r/s I received an email from an ex girlfriend. I replied in a friendly way and told my BPD about it. But I couldnt understand how the ex had found my email address.

I now realise that it was almost certainly my BPD pretending to be her to see how I would respond! I never considered that at the time, how naive of me.

I don't think it is naivete. It is just unimaginable to suspect such things unless one has had a date with BPD madness before. There were so many so called coincidences and strange things happening through out the relationship that I was struggling to keep it together. At the start of the relationship my intuition and gut was picking up things that I could not properly verbalise but my conscious mind couldn't put it together and was reprimanding myself for being so called 'paranoid' or not 'trusting enough'. It was almost as if there was an obvious reality where all was fine and a parallel reality underneath, a dangerous undertow pulling me in the abyss. She seemed such a loving, great gf. There must have been something wrong with me you see? One of my closest friends bought into this too and said that I was not trusting enough and giving love a chance. Now he is ashamed of himself for not standing up for me and we barely talk.
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2014, 08:16:30 AM »

During my r/s I received an email from an ex girlfriend. I replied in a friendly way and told my BPD about it. But I couldnt understand how the ex had found my email address.

I now realise that it was almost certainly my BPD pretending to be her to see how I would respond! I never considered that at the time, how naive of me.

I don't think it is naivete. It is just unimaginable to suspect such things unless one has had a date with BPD madness before. There were so many so called coincidences and strange things happening through out the relationship that I was struggling to keep it together. At the start of the relationship my intuition and gut was picking up things that I could not properly verbalise but my conscious mind couldn't put it together and was reprimanding myself for being so called 'paranoid' or not 'trusting enough'. It was almost as if there was an obvious reality where all was fine and a parallel reality underneath, a dangerous undertow pulling me in the abyss. She seemed such a loving, great gf. There must have been something wrong with me you see? One of my closest friends bought into this too and said that I was not trusting enough and giving love a chance. Now he is ashamed of himself for not standing up for me and we barely talk.

Oh gosh, I just remembered something else based on reading this thread! Early on she got an anonymous message saying I was violent and she needed to leave me or suffer the consequences! I couldn't understand that at all at the time, and was quite upset about it - now I realise it was probably her! But why on earth would she do that?

Wow, things were even more screwed up than I realised!
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2014, 02:15:35 PM »

This seems so mad! I really debate if this was too far and if I was being paranoid but hearing other stories I'm not pretty sure she is sending out these emails pretending to be me saying terrible things about them and awful things about herself. That's just... .I honestly do not know why someone would feel possessed to do that!

Fortunately the people I communicate with seem to have grasped instantly it wasn't me but does anyone know how I could stop something like this from continuing? I really have no idea who she is sending them too; it's making me so nervous, what if she sent it to something to do with work!
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