Mine used to talk about the devil

[christoff522]

When mine left about 3/4 weeks (time is a blur really during this period) my dad came into my room and sat down and talked to me about seeing a doctor for my depression. I felt like I had a constant frown, I spent about 16 hours a day in my bedroom, I was either skyping her, calling her, texting her, fb chatting to her. After she started devaluing me we had very little physical contact. It was mostly skype. Anyway I called her out on this (I called her on a lot of things) and she was like "We'll meet in the park", I told her that was a bit weird, we could just go for a coffee. Apparently that wasn't good enough.

Man, I read about all of you guys talking to your ex's. Mine cheated on me and then wanted nothing else to do with me. All the while treating me like didn't exist while still living there and telling me that, "you did nothing wrong to cause this". Maybe my exBPDgf is doing it wrong or didn't get the memo or something, hahaha. Strange indeed!

Sorry I miswrote that. I mean "When mine left, about 3 or 4 weeks before she did... ."

After she did leave it was about 4 months before she started the "lets be friends" thing and trying to box me in.

[Vivienne]

I actually do think theres a possibility that BPD is some kind of demonic possession/harassment/oppression.

They may simply be more susceptible to demonic influence due to their lack of self-control.

Who knows. It does seem to me this disorder has way to many peripheral connections to be a coincidence.

I'm glad you wrote that, christoff. I was thinking about starting a new thread about this. I strongly agree that there's more to many mental illnesses that people think.

I'm an active christian, believe Jesus is our Lord and Saviour. I used to pray a lot for my ex (I still do) because I'm positive he was oppressed by demons. My prayers had a real effect and he stopped having suicidal thoughts, that he was tormented by almost every day. He started functioning better, generally became a happier person. He did not know about the fact that I was praying for his deliverance.

And let me share with you a testimony of a priest, who said he once went to a mental hospital to pray over one highly schizophrenic lady, she was completely healed form her "illness" at the time with a few other severely schizophrenic people, that had to be locked because of their behaviour. It happened in the UK. I know tonnes of such testimony form both priests and ordinary people.

Someone here mentioned his ex having conversations with her illness, but could she be actually talking with something else? Other member mentioned his ex being afraid of the dark, other about her hearing whispers, well, maybe there really was something oppressing that people.

Please pray for those tormented people instead of hating them.

[christoff522]

I actually do think theres a possibility that BPD is some kind of demonic possession/harassment/oppression.

They may simply be more susceptible to demonic influence due to their lack of self-control.

Who knows. It does seem to me this disorder has way to many peripheral connections to be a coincidence.

I'm glad you wrote that, christoff. I was thinking about starting a new thread about this. I strongly agree that there's more to many mental illnesses that people think.

I'm an active christian, believe Jesus is our Lord and Saviour. I used to pray a lot for my ex (I still do) because I'm positive he was oppressed by demons. My prayers had a real effect and he stopped having suicidal thoughts, that he was tormented by almost every day. He started functioning better, generally became a happier person. He did not know about the fact that I was praying for his deliverance.

And let me share with you a testimony of a priest, who said he once went to a mental hospital to pray over one highly schizophrenic lady, she was completely healed form her "illness" at the time with a few other severely schizophrenic people, that had to be locked because of their behaviour. It happened in the UK. I know tonnes of such testimony form both priests and ordinary people.

Someone here mentioned his ex having conversations with her illness, but could she be actually talking with something else? Other member mentioned his ex being afraid of the dark, other about her hearing whispers, well, maybe there really was something oppressing that people.

Please pray for those tormented people instead of hating them.

There is a significant degree of similarity. I remember honestly believing she was possessed. She would awake at night, sit bolt upright, and talk gibberish then go straight back to sleep. Another time during one of our "skype sleeps" she literally grabbed the ipod and threw it on the floor. She is literally terrified of sleeping in the dark unless someone is with her. Her obsession with 'religious objects' is another classic sign of demonic possession (remember the exorcist and the 'cross incident'. If demons are real (and I posit that they are) then where would they be? They would be in the place all the signs point to.

Another interesting thing, during the silence of when she was asleep - what would I hear... but whispers.

Of course, this is all theory and theres no proof, in other threads I've stated how I treat her. I treat her like anyone else but I make extra sure to think strategically and am working daily to become more of a man. I know that her relationship will end (unless God answered my prayers). A few circumstances change in a few months making it a little more likely that we can be together. I don't know if I will still be around or even interested at that point. But I'm on a 6 month alpha male subliminal program. It works wonders, seriously.

We should be aware of all possibilities and it is one of them definitely. As someone said however BPD is visible on brain scans, but what we might be seeing is the effect of demonic influence. Who knows. But one thing I do know, this seems to happen to unsaved people, often they seem to venture towards the catholic side (apologies if you're catholic) mine is suddenly claiming that she's catholic, they associate with Christianity, but unlike me and my collection of about 60 bibles, they tend not to have any obvious signs of faith. Nor have they ever opened a bible, or confessed with their mouth the Lord Jesus and believed in their heart that God has raised him from the dead.

It seems likely that if they did believe on Jesus, truthfully and honestly that this would be cured. But thats my faith talking.

I love my BPD with all my heart, but I can't allow that to mess me up. I have to be sober and far from her. If she called me up tonight and said she wanted to go on a date ASAP, I'd say "meet me monday at 2pm at such and such location". I hope and pray she'll be okay. If I can have her, I shall.

... see, you break down all the bravado and I'm a total wreck haha  :'(

[fred6]

But I'm on a 6 month alpha male subliminal program. It works wonders, seriously.

What's that all about?

[Blimblam]

Christoff

You make your own choices but I really think you are playing with fire here.  The thing is you did attach an this gives her access to your unconcious mind.

The true alpha male is te psychopath. You are not a psychopath.

As good as your game gets hers will be better. It will take a great toll on your health. If you really want another shot you need to become whole and that process takes time like years.  Carl Jung had a relationship with a borderline and he went recluse for 5 years after she left him. His "system" for becoming whole after she left him he refered to as an alchemical transformation.  You might want to look into Jung and his students work on alchemy. Once one has completed the individuation alchemical process and fully integrated their dark and light side then one may be considered a true alpha with compassion. Then you may be able to handle her.

Bpds trump so called alpha males that attach unless they are psychopaths. The alpha male stuff out there is weak sauce compared to the alchemical process of individuation.

[KrisK7]

Mine had told me, in all seriousness, that she was a legitimate succubus and was assigned targets by "them", this ever ominous order of succubi. Literally told me that I was a target but she didn't want to hurt me like the others, that she loved me too much, that it wasn't fair. I wish I could say I don't know what I stuck around past it, but y'all know how it is. I loved her so much she could've grown horns and wings and whisked me away to the pits of hell and I'd of let her with a smile on my face.

[rollercoaster24]

Hi all

Interesting posts indeed. I do wonder about all this mental illness and demonic possession stuff too.

At my workplace, (a shopping centre) there was a dangerous schizophrenic guy that used to hang around all the time, (off and on for around 20 years) the stuff he was doing was really warped, and so many people complained about him that eventually we all had to take action, (legally) to ensure he couldn't hang out there any longer.

For example, he would wip his 'equipment' out in full view of the public, and proceed to masturbate, ranting on at the same time, he also likes to sneak into the toilets and wipe his faeces all over the walls, or leave disgusting biohazards behind, he is a drug user to boot, so pair that with a serious mental illness, and you have a recipe for disaster.

There are others that do the same type of stuff, and they are all junkies, (leaving their used needles and other grime behind them), and I have long known that there is a definite connection between human faeces and 'the devil's work'. Perhaps this explains their obsession with it, since drugs and serious mental illness seem to be destroying their souls.

As for my exBP, in the first six months of being involved with him, he would often make references to being 'the devil' or that he was/is an 'evil man' inside.  I would often watch him ranting out loud to himself, and his nocturnal sleeping habits left something to be desired too.

That of course was if he was asleep, (which was rare).

Roller

[christoff522]

But I'm on a 6 month alpha male subliminal program. It works wonders, seriously.

What's that all about?

Basically you lie in bed, go to sleep. For 8-10 hours every night a trickling stream is heard. Beneath that... inaudible... is subliminals.  Theres 6 stages, each stage lasts 32 days.

Ive been on it since September 11, definitely seeing changes.

[christoff522]

Christoff

You make your own choices but I really think you are playing with fire here.  The thing is you did attach an this gives her access to your unconcious mind.

Agreed, at this specific moment she can still get to me.

The true alpha male is the psychopath. You are not a psychopath.

Thank you. I disagree that an alpha is a psychopath, a more fully realised human being perhaps. But a psychopath tends towards torture, pain, to fulfill unconscious self-hatred, an alpha is nothing like that. An alpha is a human being who knows what he wants, has total unconditional self love, and has awesome perspective on life. Anyone can be alpha.

As good as your game gets hers will be better. It will take a great toll on your health. If you really want another shot you need to become whole and that process takes time like years. 

Working on it Still not sure I do want another shot. Off our October 11 on the pull 

Carl Jung had a relationship with a borderline and he went recluse for 5 years after she left him. His "system" for becoming whole after she left him he refered to as an alchemical transformation.  You might want to look into Jung and his students work on alchemy. Once one has completed the individuation alchemical process and fully integrated their dark and light side then one may be considered a true alpha with compassion. Then you may be able to handle her.

I will look into it, but a lot of existential philosophy and new-agey psychology I tend to avoid.

Bpds trump so called alpha males that attach unless they are psychopaths. The alpha male stuff out there is weak sauce compared to the alchemical process of individuation.

BPDs wouldn't get a look in by an alpha. An alpha wouldn't even bother with someone like that except for a one night stand. To quote a Don Juan "Crazy girls are crazy in bed". I think that the alpha male stuff is a pathway to better self-realisation. If a man knows himself, "know thyself", isn't lonely, isn't desperately in need of someone to stroke his head and tell him they love him - then I posit that a BPD has no door in. A BPD will see YOUR interest, and then latch onto it. Aside of a bit of fun, no alpha male with 10 girls on the go (sorry feminists) is going to bother with someone evidently batsh!t.

But I will agree on this, once a BPD has you, as alpha as you may be, they get you, hook you in, hit emotional and psychological cues that you didn't know exist, and bring tears to your eyes cos you want them so bad!

I actually said yesterday that I love her (on this forum, not to her), I disagree with that, I think theres like a destructive unity between us. It's dangerous.

But I know I'm healing because I'm starting to dream about her, before I had a mental block, as I grow, I'm going through it. I'm wondering whether or not to stop social media for a while. Maybe for a week.