cant believe I put up with that sht...

[Deeno02]

What the hell was I thinking? The abuse, the tap dancing in a minefield, the nastiness towards my kids at the end. The constant snarkiness when I tried to help. Being slowly cut out of her and her kids lives while I watched helplessly,  afraid to ask why, what did I do? Lack of affection, with holding of affection, the list goes (thank god no cheating), but damn it, what the holy hell was i thinking? Wake up folks, no matter what happened or how you feel, they abused us. Plain and simple. And we dont need to tolerate that at all... .

[clydegriffith]

It really does boggle my mind why i also put up with the crap i did. I feel ridiculous telling people i was still with her after she had me falsely arrested numerous times, physically attacked me on a regular basis and was screwing anyone that looked her away. I didn't like myself for being with her after all that. It was difficult to look myself in the mirror but i felt i had to keep trying because we have a child together.  Kid or no kid that woman needed to be out of my life much sooner. It would have spared me a lot of pain and heartache.

[Pingo]

Deeno, most of us can relate!  I have guilt over letting him treat my kids not so nice at times.  Why didn't I just tell him to eff off?  I felt so ridiculously helpless the first couple of times it happened.  I have a hard time even telling people about the truth of what I went through.  When I tell my best friend she gets enraged about some of the crazy stuff he did.  I'm sure she doesn't understand why I stayed.  But at least she is compassionate.  I haven't really shared much to anyone else.  It's too hard (Thank goodness for y'all here!).  I do have to say though, when I first found this site not long after my BU I was feeling so embarrassed and like I was such a fool, true disbelief!... .but those feelings are a lot less now.  As I learn about the trauma bond I find I have a lot of compassion for myself.  Also working through childhood & FOO stuff has given me a lot of insight and objection about the whole thing. 

[Deeno02]

Deeno, most of us can relate!  I have guilt over letting him treat my kids not so nice at times.  Why didn't I just tell him to eff off?  I felt so ridiculously helpless the first couple of times it happened.  I have a hard time even telling people about the truth of what I went through.  When I tell my best friend she gets enraged about some of the crazy stuff he did.  I'm sure she doesn't understand why I stayed.  But at least she is compassionate.  I haven't really shared much to anyone else.  It's too hard (Thank goodness for y'all here!).  I do have to say though, when I first found this site not long after my BU I was feeling so embarrassed and like I was such a fool, true disbelief!... .but those feelings are a lot less now.  As I learn about the trauma bond I find I have a lot of compassion for myself.  Also working through childhood & FOO stuff has given me a lot of insight and objection about the whole thing. 

Yep, 51 year old war veteran having to admit he was in an abusive relationship. Did alot for my manliness. ... but i admitted it. She never took the time to understand my needs from her because of PTSD, it was always about her and her chaos. Glad its over.

[bungenstein]

BPDs and psychopaths and sociopaths and narcissists all do the same thing to their victim. They alter their brain chemistry through abuse, they create a need in your mind, they create an addiction.

Thats why we put up with all that ___, we can't let go, not because we love them, because we are addicted to them through abuse, the trauma bond.

The relentless praise and idealisation combined with sudden abuse, insults, and criticism, constantly changing on a dime, creates imbalances of chemicals in the brain which makes us unstable and needy ourselves. They need to do this because they need people to need them, the need to abuse, they need someone who is cut down.

Thats why the break up is SO hard, and SO confusing, its nothing like breaking up with a normal person, you are literally crashing from drug withdrawal.

[Deeno02]

BPDs and psychopaths and sociopaths and narcissists all do the same thing to their victim. They alter their brain chemistry through abuse, they create a need in your mind, they create an addiction.

Thats why we put up with all that ___, we can't let go, not because we love them, because we are addicted to them through abuse, the trauma bond.

The relentless praise and idealisation combined with sudden abuse, insults, and criticism, constantly changing on a dime, creates imbalances of chemicals in the brain which makes us unstable and needy ourselves. They need to do this because they need people to need them, the need to abuse, they need someone who is cut down.

Thats why the break up is SO hard, and SO confusing, its nothing like breaking up with a normal person, you are literally crashing from drug withdrawal.

Totally agree with what you said. And the sad part is, YOU KNOW ITS HAPPENING!. Its like watching yourself be buried alive and theres nothing you can do.

[bungenstein]

BPDs and psychopaths and sociopaths and narcissists all do the same thing to their victim. They alter their brain chemistry through abuse, they create a need in your mind, they create an addiction.

Thats why we put up with all that ___, we can't let go, not because we love them, because we are addicted to them through abuse, the trauma bond.

The relentless praise and idealisation combined with sudden abuse, insults, and criticism, constantly changing on a dime, creates imbalances of chemicals in the brain which makes us unstable and needy ourselves. They need to do this because they need people to need them, the need to abuse, they need someone who is cut down.

Thats why the break up is SO hard, and SO confusing, its nothing like breaking up with a normal person, you are literally crashing from drug withdrawal.

Totally agree with what you said. And the sad part is, YOU KNOW ITS HAPPENING!. Its like watching yourself be buried alive and theres nothing you can do.

Yep, and if she had managed to cut off my friends and family from me I would have been ___ed. Unfortunately for her my relationships are too strong, and they stepped in help me get out of it. Towards the end of the relationship, I would spontaneously burst into tears nearly everyday for the last month. Why did I stay? I don't know, I just couldn't let go. My replacement has been successfully isolated from all of his friends, and sounds a complete pushover, she did enough damage to me, and I am a strong autonomous person, the damage she does to him will be catastrophic, and theres no avoiding it.

[Deeno02]

BPDs and psychopaths and sociopaths and narcissists all do the same thing to their victim. They alter their brain chemistry through abuse, they create a need in your mind, they create an addiction.

Thats why we put up with all that ___, we can't let go, not because we love them, because we are addicted to them through abuse, the trauma bond.

The relentless praise and idealisation combined with sudden abuse, insults, and criticism, constantly changing on a dime, creates imbalances of chemicals in the brain which makes us unstable and needy ourselves. They need to do this because they need people to need them, the need to abuse, they need someone who is cut down.

Thats why the break up is SO hard, and SO confusing, its nothing like breaking up with a normal person, you are literally crashing from drug withdrawal.

Totally agree with what you said. And the sad part is, YOU KNOW ITS HAPPENING!. Its like watching yourself be buried alive and theres nothing you can do.

Yep, and if she had managed to cut off my friends and family from me I would have been ___ed. Unfortunately for her my relationships are too strong, and they stepped in help me get out of it. Towards the end of the relationship, I would spontaneously burst into tears nearly everyday for the last month. Why did I stay? I don't know, I just couldn't let go. My replacement has been successfully isolated from all of his friends, and sounds a complete pushover, she did enough damage to me, and I am a strong autonomous person, the damage she does to him will be catastrophic, and theres no avoiding it.

Yep, but still tried to make it work. waste of time.

[bungenstein]

BPDs and psychopaths and sociopaths and narcissists all do the same thing to their victim. They alter their brain chemistry through abuse, they create a need in your mind, they create an addiction.

Thats why we put up with all that ___, we can't let go, not because we love them, because we are addicted to them through abuse, the trauma bond.

The relentless praise and idealisation combined with sudden abuse, insults, and criticism, constantly changing on a dime, creates imbalances of chemicals in the brain which makes us unstable and needy ourselves. They need to do this because they need people to need them, the need to abuse, they need someone who is cut down.

Thats why the break up is SO hard, and SO confusing, its nothing like breaking up with a normal person, you are literally crashing from drug withdrawal.

Totally agree with what you said. And the sad part is, YOU KNOW ITS HAPPENING!. Its like watching yourself be buried alive and theres nothing you can do.

Yep, and if she had managed to cut off my friends and family from me I would have been ___ed. Unfortunately for her my relationships are too strong, and they stepped in help me get out of it. Towards the end of the relationship, I would spontaneously burst into tears nearly everyday for the last month. Why did I stay? I don't know, I just couldn't let go. My replacement has been successfully isolated from all of his friends, and sounds a complete pushover, she did enough damage to me, and I am a strong autonomous person, the damage she does to him will be catastrophic, and theres no avoiding it.

Yep, but still tried to make it work. waste of time.

Once you have worked through the aftermath, and it is hard, very hard, you will come out the otherside a more attuned, more adept, more confident, stronger, and generally a superior human being. I believe that psychopaths were sent to shake our world up for our own benefit.

[clydegriffith]

Lots of very good answers here everyone.

[Raybo48]

BPDs and psychopaths and sociopaths and narcissists all do the same thing to their victim. They alter their brain chemistry through abuse, they create a need in your mind, they create an addiction.

Thats why we put up with all that ___, we can't let go, not because we love them, because we are addicted to them through abuse, the trauma bond.

The relentless praise and idealisation combined with sudden abuse, insults, and criticism, constantly changing on a dime, creates imbalances of chemicals in the brain which makes us unstable and needy ourselves. They need to do this because they need people to need them, the need to abuse, they need someone who is cut down.

Thats why the break up is SO hard, and SO confusing, its nothing like breaking up with a normal person, you are literally crashing from drug withdrawal.

God is this true.   It fully explains what is going on with me.   

[vortex of confusion]

Thats why we put up with all that ___, we can't let go, not because we love them, because we are addicted to them through abuse, the trauma bond.

The relentless praise and idealisation combined with sudden abuse, insults, and criticism, constantly changing on a dime, creates imbalances of chemicals in the brain which makes us unstable and needy ourselves. They need to do this because they need people to need them, the need to abuse, they need someone who is cut down.

Thats why the break up is SO hard, and SO confusing, its nothing like breaking up with a normal person, you are literally crashing from drug withdrawal.

The part I bolded is what is so difficult to communicate and wrap my mind around. How can somebody praise you and say such wonderful things about you yet still do all of those things that are so subtly abusive. I have definitely become unstable at different times. I would scare myself with my own behavior and thoughts.

[Deeno02]

Thats why we put up with all that ___, we can't let go, not because we love them, because we are addicted to them through abuse, the trauma bond.

The relentless praise and idealisation combined with sudden abuse, insults, and criticism, constantly changing on a dime, creates imbalances of chemicals in the brain which makes us unstable and needy ourselves. They need to do this because they need people to need them, the need to abuse, they need someone who is cut down.

Thats why the break up is SO hard, and SO confusing, its nothing like breaking up with a normal person, you are literally crashing from drug withdrawal.

The part I bolded is what is so difficult to communicate and wrap my mind around. How can somebody praise you and say such wonderful things about you yet still do all of those things that are so subtly abusive. I have definitely become unstable at different times. I would scare myself with my own behavior and thoughts.

It got so bad with her crazy schedule and the constant you never spend enough time with me stuff, that i was going nuts like it was my fault that HER schedule was crazy. When i told her that, i got you can swing by the house to at least hug me... .sigh, so i did that. I actually lied a few times toward the end saying i had to work late so i could have a day away from her chaos. Im not proud of that at all.

[bungenstein]

Thats why we put up with all that ___, we can't let go, not because we love them, because we are addicted to them through abuse, the trauma bond.

The relentless praise and idealisation combined with sudden abuse, insults, and criticism, constantly changing on a dime, creates imbalances of chemicals in the brain which makes us unstable and needy ourselves. They need to do this because they need people to need them, the need to abuse, they need someone who is cut down.

Thats why the break up is SO hard, and SO confusing, its nothing like breaking up with a normal person, you are literally crashing from drug withdrawal.

The part I bolded is what is so difficult to communicate and wrap my mind around. How can somebody praise you and say such wonderful things about you yet still do all of those things that are so subtly abusive. I have definitely become unstable at different times. I would scare myself with my own behavior and thoughts.

Because they want to make you addicted, so you don't leave, and then they can manipulate and control as much as they want.

I think my relationship with my ex was particularly explosive purely because she couldn't control me, she used to say things like, well other guys used to act like this and other guys used to do this, you are not boyfriend material. Her manipulation wasn't working, her first explosion was on the very day we met.

[bungenstein]

Thats why we put up with all that ___, we can't let go, not because we love them, because we are addicted to them through abuse, the trauma bond.

The relentless praise and idealisation combined with sudden abuse, insults, and criticism, constantly changing on a dime, creates imbalances of chemicals in the brain which makes us unstable and needy ourselves. They need to do this because they need people to need them, the need to abuse, they need someone who is cut down.

Thats why the break up is SO hard, and SO confusing, its nothing like breaking up with a normal person, you are literally crashing from drug withdrawal.

The part I bolded is what is so difficult to communicate and wrap my mind around. How can somebody praise you and say such wonderful things about you yet still do all of those things that are so subtly abusive. I have definitely become unstable at different times. I would scare myself with my own behavior and thoughts.

It got so bad with her crazy schedule and the constant you never spend enough time with me stuff, that i was going nuts like it was my fault that HER schedule was crazy. When i told her that, i got you can swing by the house to at least hug me... .sigh, so i did that. I actually lied a few times toward the end saying i had to work late so i could have a day away from her chaos. Im not proud of that at all.

I don't think you should feel any remorse at all about lying to these parasites.

[Deeno02]

Thats why we put up with all that ___, we can't let go, not because we love them, because we are addicted to them through abuse, the trauma bond.

The relentless praise and idealisation combined with sudden abuse, insults, and criticism, constantly changing on a dime, creates imbalances of chemicals in the brain which makes us unstable and needy ourselves. They need to do this because they need people to need them, the need to abuse, they need someone who is cut down.

Thats why the break up is SO hard, and SO confusing, its nothing like breaking up with a normal person, you are literally crashing from drug withdrawal.

The part I bolded is what is so difficult to communicate and wrap my mind around. How can somebody praise you and say such wonderful things about you yet still do all of those things that are so subtly abusive. I have definitely become unstable at different times. I would scare myself with my own behavior and thoughts.

It got so bad with her crazy schedule and the constant you never spend enough time with me stuff, that i was going nuts like it was my fault that HER schedule was crazy. When i told her that, i got you can swing by the house to at least hug me... .sigh, so i did that. I actually lied a few times toward the end saying i had to work late so i could have a day away from her chaos. Im not proud of that at all.

I don't think you should feel any remorse at all about lying to these parasites.

I know that Bung. Just not the caliber of guy I am. But I had to. The whole time thing was used against me anyway... .

[vortex of confusion]

Because they want to make you addicted, so you don't leave, and then they can manipulate and control as much as they want.

I think my relationship with my ex was particularly explosive purely because she couldn't control me, she used to say things like, well other guys used to act like this and other guys used to do this, you are not boyfriend material. Her manipulation wasn't working, her first explosion was on the very day we met.

I don't feel like he wants to control me specifically. I think it was more about him feeling out of control and being so self centered. In order to control me, he would actually have to think about me and put forth some effort. Mine is so unbelievably lazy. He does the bare minimum. If something happens that he is not expecting, he is likely to react negatively. He lives in his own world so much that I don't think it was about control. It was about him not wanting anything to disturb his world. I feel like he wanted me to control him and tell him what to do. As long as I treat him like I would my children, he seems happy as a clam. Trying to hold him responsible and ask him to do more than go to work and bring home a paycheck is like asking him to do the impossible.

[bungenstein]

Because they want to make you addicted, so you don't leave, and then they can manipulate and control as much as they want.

I think my relationship with my ex was particularly explosive purely because she couldn't control me, she used to say things like, well other guys used to act like this and other guys used to do this, you are not boyfriend material. Her manipulation wasn't working, her first explosion was on the very day we met.

I don't feel like he wants to control me specifically. I think it was more about him feeling out of control and being so self centered. In order to control me, he would actually have to think about me and put forth some effort. Mine is so unbelievably lazy. He does the bare minimum. If something happens that he is not expecting, he is likely to react negatively. He lives in his own world so much that I don't think it was about control. It was about him not wanting anything to disturb his world. I feel like he wanted me to control him and tell him what to do. As long as I treat him like I would my children, he seems happy as a clam. Trying to hold him responsible and ask him to do more than go to work and bring home a paycheck is like asking him to do the impossible.

He wants you to do everything for him and make decisions for him, if you don't, all hell breaks lose, thats control.

[Raybo48]

Thats why we put up with all that ___, we can't let go, not because we love them, because we are addicted to them through abuse, the trauma bond.

The relentless praise and idealisation combined with sudden abuse, insults, and criticism, constantly changing on a dime, creates imbalances of chemicals in the brain which makes us unstable and needy ourselves. They need to do this because they need people to need them, the need to abuse, they need someone who is cut down.

Thats why the break up is SO hard, and SO confusing, its nothing like breaking up with a normal person, you are literally crashing from drug withdrawal.

The part I bolded is what is so difficult to communicate and wrap my mind around. How can somebody praise you and say such wonderful things about you yet still do all of those things that are so subtly abusive. I have definitely become unstable at different times. I would scare myself with my own behavior and thoughts.

Because they want to make you addicted, so you don't leave, and then they can manipulate and control as much as they want.

I think my relationship with my ex was particularly explosive purely because she couldn't control me, she used to say things like, well other guys used to act like this and other guys used to do this, you are not boyfriend material. Her manipulation wasn't working, her first explosion was on the very day we met.

Which reminds me of a perfect quote from my BPDxgf right before she was about to dump me on my head for the 10th time.   "You're too old for me to change you, so what's the point of us being together".  WHO SAYS THAT?

[bungenstein]

Thats why we put up with all that ___, we can't let go, not because we love them, because we are addicted to them through abuse, the trauma bond.

The relentless praise and idealisation combined with sudden abuse, insults, and criticism, constantly changing on a dime, creates imbalances of chemicals in the brain which makes us unstable and needy ourselves. They need to do this because they need people to need them, the need to abuse, they need someone who is cut down.

Thats why the break up is SO hard, and SO confusing, its nothing like breaking up with a normal person, you are literally crashing from drug withdrawal.

The part I bolded is what is so difficult to communicate and wrap my mind around. How can somebody praise you and say such wonderful things about you yet still do all of those things that are so subtly abusive. I have definitely become unstable at different times. I would scare myself with my own behavior and thoughts.

Because they want to make you addicted, so you don't leave, and then they can manipulate and control as much as they want.

I think my relationship with my ex was particularly explosive purely because she couldn't control me, she used to say things like, well other guys used to act like this and other guys used to do this, you are not boyfriend material. Her manipulation wasn't working, her first explosion was on the very day we met.

Which reminds me of a perfect quote from my BPDxgf right before she was about to dump me on my head for the 10th time.   "You're too old for me to change you, so what the point of us being together".  WHO SAYS THAT?

Yeh its similar to something mine said when we were breaking up, "I want all consuming love where we do literally everything together, I want you to NEED me, and that boat has long sailed for us"

Who wants someone to NEED them and NEVER leave their side? An abuser.   

[Raybo48]

Thats why we put up with all that ___, we can't let go, not because we love them, because we are addicted to them through abuse, the trauma bond.

The relentless praise and idealisation combined with sudden abuse, insults, and criticism, constantly changing on a dime, creates imbalances of chemicals in the brain which makes us unstable and needy ourselves. They need to do this because they need people to need them, the need to abuse, they need someone who is cut down.

Thats why the break up is SO hard, and SO confusing, its nothing like breaking up with a normal person, you are literally crashing from drug withdrawal.

The part I bolded is what is so difficult to communicate and wrap my mind around. How can somebody praise you and say such wonderful things about you yet still do all of those things that are so subtly abusive. I have definitely become unstable at different times. I would scare myself with my own behavior and thoughts.

Because they want to make you addicted, so you don't leave, and then they can manipulate and control as much as they want.

I think my relationship with my ex was particularly explosive purely because she couldn't control me, she used to say things like, well other guys used to act like this and other guys used to do this, you are not boyfriend material. Her manipulation wasn't working, her first explosion was on the very day we met.

Which reminds me of a perfect quote from my BPDxgf right before she was about to dump me on my head for the 10th time.   "You're too old for me to change you, so what the point of us being together".  WHO SAYS THAT?

Yeh its similar to something mine said when we were breaking up, "I want all consuming love where we do literally everything together, I want you to NEED me, and that boat has long sailed for us"

Who wants someone to NEED them and NEVER leave their side? An abuser.   

She'd feed me crap like "I love you so much I'd even change your diapers when you got old"  Even under her spell at my worst I knew that was complete bulls***.  If I was five minutes late to her house I didn't love her and I was a horrible person so yea, she was going be my nursemaid when we got old... .yea

[antonio1213]

We get beat down but we come back stronger. I can say no matter how attractive or in love with with a girl I think I may be, if I even think she is BPD I will run as fast as I can from that crazy demon.

I can't believe that I didn't act on the    of her cutting herself, verbally abusing me for no reason, and the huge selfishness. I wish I could just go back in time and slap some sense into my old self.

[Raybo48]

We get beat down but we come back stronger. I can say no matter how attractive or in love with with a girl I think I may be, if I even think she is BPD I will run as fast as I can from that crazy demon.

I can't believe that I didn't act on the    of her cutting herself, verbally abusing me for no reason, and the huge selfishness. I wish I could just go back in time and slap some sense into my old self.

Same boat here... Mine didn't cut herself, but she drank gallons of Vodka, and I mean gallons on her binges.    You are correct, if I think about it I did come back stronger from the abuse.  Through her treatment I was conditioned that way.  I blame myself too... I enabled her behavior, set no boundaries to speak of and tried to save her over and over again with no success.  Stupid.

[antonio1213]

We get beat down but we come back stronger. I can say no matter how attractive or in love with with a girl I think I may be, if I even think she is BPD I will run as fast as I can from that crazy demon.

I can't believe that I didn't act on the    of her cutting herself, verbally abusing me for no reason, and the huge selfishness. I wish I could just go back in time and slap some sense into my old self.

Same boat here... Mine didn't cut herself, but she drank gallons of Vodka, and I mean gallons on her binges.    You are correct, if I think about it I did come back stronger from the abuse.  Through her treatment I was conditioned that way.  I blame myself too... I enabled her behavior, set no boundaries to speak of and tried to save her over and over again with no success.  Stupid.

I made the mistake of getting her a huge bottle of vodka for her birthday. She took 20 something shots of it (no I am not joking) and threw up multiple times. On her mothers birthday one year she got really drunk pissed herself and broke a shower curtain in her house.

And yeah I had NO boundaries at all. I was the perfect enabler of her behavior and let her do what she wanted to do with me. That is why they have sites like these. Having sites like these just shows how much trama and terrible pain they put you through and we need to talk to other people just to process what the hell they put us through.

[Deeno02]

Thats why we put up with all that ___, we can't let go, not because we love them, because we are addicted to them through abuse, the trauma bond.

The relentless praise and idealisation combined with sudden abuse, insults, and criticism, constantly changing on a dime, creates imbalances of chemicals in the brain which makes us unstable and needy ourselves. They need to do this because they need people to need them, the need to abuse, they need someone who is cut down.

Thats why the break up is SO hard, and SO confusing, its nothing like breaking up with a normal person, you are literally crashing from drug withdrawal.

The part I bolded is what is so difficult to communicate and wrap my mind around. How can somebody praise you and say such wonderful things about you yet still do all of those things that are so subtly abusive. I have definitely become unstable at different times. I would scare myself with my own behavior and thoughts.

Because they want to make you addicted, so you don't leave, and then they can manipulate and control as much as they want.

I think my relationship with my ex was particularly explosive purely because she couldn't control me, she used to say things like, well other guys used to act like this and other guys used to do this, you are not boyfriend material. Her manipulation wasn't working, her first explosion was on the very day we met.

Which reminds me of a perfect quote from my BPDxgf right before she was about to dump me on my head for the 10th time.   "You're too old for me to change you, so what the point of us being together".  WHO SAYS THAT?

Yeh its similar to something mine said when we were breaking up, "I want all consuming love where we do literally everything together, I want you to NEED me, and that boat has long sailed for us"

Who wants someone to NEED them and NEVER leave their side? An abuser.   

Needy... Yep. Denied being it of course.

[vortex of confusion]

He wants you to do everything for him and make decisions for him, if you don't, all hell breaks lose, thats control.

Very true! I have always felt like I was the one trying to control him because I was doing things for him and making decisions for him. I think that is the confusing thing about all of this for me. Depending on which side you are on or how it is described, the non could just as easily be described as having BPD tendencies. It has been a real mind f**k for me.

[bungenstein]

He wants you to do everything for him and make decisions for him, if you don't, all hell breaks lose, thats control.

Very true! I have always felt like I was the one trying to control him because I was doing things for him and making decisions for him. I think that is the confusing thing about all of this for me. Depending on which side you are on or how it is described, the non could just as easily be described as having BPD tendencies. It has been a real mind f**k for me.

Either they don't do something and you have to do it for them, or their behaviour is so bad you have to say no, or they say you should do this and this for me, and then call you controlling, or make you feel like you're controlling, but you have to otherwise its like letting go of a balloon without tieing the end.

Its very confusing but the end result of all their actions is to control you, to isolate you, and to wear you down into someone you're not. I think the term BPD really paints them in better light, so you can feel sorry for them, so you try and help them more, and become further abused, they ARE just another brand of psychopath.

[mywifecrazy]

I wish I could just go back in time and slap some sense into my old self.

Hands down the best line I've read on here in a long long time. God I bet most of us on here feel like this quite often.  Thanks for the chuckle!

MWC... .

[mywifecrazy]

I think the term BPD really paints them in better light, so you can feel sorry for them, so you try and help them more, and become further abused, they ARE just another brand of psychopath.

I must say that I agree with this statement, especially when I see how she hurts her own children and how she shows no signs of being negatively affected by it. I was in her presence the other day and my God I totally see her in a new light now that my head is totally cleared of the fog she had me in. It actually scared me and made me feel sad at the same time… Looking into her eyes it didn't seem like anyone was in there.

Now you all know how I chose my username… Only now it should be myXwifecrazy!

MWC... .

[ATLandon]

I wish I could just go back in time and slap some sense into my old self.

Hands down the best line I've read on here in a long long time. God I bet most of us on here feel like this quite often.  Thanks for the chuckle!

MWC... .

Yes, yes, and yes again! In fact, I'd smack myself with baseball bat to get the point across! I think this whole subject is the cause for the deep-seated anger I have been experiencing since I decided to divorce and have been detaching from my marriage. I'm having a very difficult time forgiving myself and dealing with the self-directed anger is taking a toll on me.