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How to communicate after a contentious divorce... Following a contentious divorce and custody battle, there are often high emotion and tensions between the parents. Research shows that constant and chronic conflict between the parents negatively impacts the children. The children sense their parents anxiety in their voice, their body language and their parents behavior. Here are some suggestions from Dean Stacer on how to avoid conflict.
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« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2014, 08:00:32 AM »

I did have some anger towards her family.

Mostly because I felt that what they were doing was wrong. In a sense, they kind of were by kicking her out. She lived in the attic, and usually wasn't much bother to anyone except when she'd rage and maybe the family might hear it downstairs (not always though.) So I suppose that might be one reason. But it wasn't some annoying tenant they were kicking out, it was their own daughter. I guess they felt that their reasons were adequate so I can't argue.

Her sister, mom and aunt were good people generally and I was on good terms with them. When I called to say I had called 911 on her, her mom was courteous and her dad (whom for a while I resented) was actually working with me on what to do about her things. I felt guilt at having resented him because of certain things he may have said, and his attitude. Sure he may have not always liked having me in their house. Though I did help with home improvement, and I helped rebuild the back porch to my BPDgf's grandparents house (after hurricane Sandy.) But looking back, he was alright. Most of the guilt came from realizing that I myself had fallen into black and white thinking.

Some days after having her sent to the hospital, her aunt called and actually told me I did the right thing. She even asked if I told the doctors that she was abusing drugs (she was abusing her meds) I said I did. Her aunt actually said she was proud of me for doing that, that way maybe she can get help.

Her sister offered her friendship, she lives way out in another state, but was always willing to listen when I called her up for advise on dealing with the PD. I'd call and maybe get some closure at least indirectly from her, but I'm afraid at what I'd hear. I'm also afraid that the PDex may have shared with everyone the things I did (yes, I did bad things during the relationship as well) and that contact would only make things messy. This is the one thing I'm sort of considering though. Calling her sister. Otherwise... .

I'm staying away.
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« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2014, 02:18:30 PM »

Thank you all so much for your input.  I'm officially over the anger toward my ex's family.  I cried today and had a conversation with a friend.  She said a lot of what was tough to hear, but what I know is true, and knew full well long before the friend said so.  Family supports their family no matter what, period.  Besides that, unless someone were in immediate physical danger, they have and always will continue to support the good they believe he is doing  - and turn a blind  eye to the bad they either know, or have a feeling he's involved in.

I'm angry at myself and I'm totally alone and that's where I've got to get busy working.  He has the unconditional love and family connections I've never had and always wished for.  I'm a wonderful person and have no one.  He's a terrible person and has lots of people around him.  This tends to feel like I'm paying for something and I don't know what I did wrong except miss the warning signs of a super creep.

I can't even enjoy the company of his family without feeling like the invite has only been extended out of sympathy.  
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« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2014, 05:19:35 AM »

Anger toward the PD family? You betcha!

They were the ones who always said that no matter what happened with BP, I would always be welcome and to stay in touch, (made to feel I was part of the family).

What happened when we split?

Pre May this year, (after splitting for good in March after 4 year rollercoaster) I called his parents, just to say 'Hi' and check in on how THEY were doing. Their phone rang and rang out and they never picked up. I didn't bother trying again, as I knew from the past that although they had said to 'stay in touch whatever happens and I was always welcome' they didn't really mean it.

OK so maybe they weren't home, but I happen to know that given their ages, (in their late 70's) they aren't out that often during the normal working week.

BP would 'instruct' them not to answer their phone to me if it so suited, and no matter what he had done to them, or said, blood is thicker than water in the end.

It annoys me that BP's elderly Father still rides his bike past my workplace occasionally, (maybe that's where BP got the idea that stalking is OK  Smiling (click to insert in post)), as I know he is only having a nosy, given he lives 40 minutes drive away in another town and all.

I am also extremely annoyed with BP's Sister In-law at present.

She shops at the Centre I work at, and each time in the past that she would shop there, she would only engage me if I saw her first, she wouldn't seek me out or anything. Then she would say Hi, and ask if I had heard from BP via phone, I would always tell her either Yes or No, telling her the last contact was in late August after attempts by him in May, June and August and my unwillingness to keep ringing him, he dropped off the radar too.

Fast mover ay? He manages to find and secure a replacement in a matter of months, if he wasn't secretly seeing her before we broke up as her client! Smiling (click to insert in post)

His Sister In-law would always tell me nothing had changed for BP, he was still unemployed, still sleeping in his car, still lying, they don't bother with him like everyone else in the family, and generally being nasty and cynical about him, seeming to want me to join in with her sarcasm and opinions.

At some point she told me he had told his parents he was 'staying with friends' in some suburb 20 minutes away, but that it 'wasn't a good environment for him',  choke

Her last contact with me, 23/12 she sought me out, (unusual) and approached me behind whilst I was cleaning windows at the Centre. She said she had 'good news of BP'. If I hadn't been on the floor at the time, I would have stopped her before she told me the details, adding that although I was happy to hear the news was good this time, it would be better if I didn't hear the minute details.

But she kept on talking before I could halt matters.

She almost sounded smug too, as she said that BP was now working, (after 6 yrs unemployed, 4 with me), on a Farm Stay South of here by 2-3 hours drive, (told me the city too). I said Great, and tried to escape, but then she said 'I think he has met his match Roller, she is a Psychiatrist and is keeping him in line, and I think he just wanted to get away from everyone and everything.'

After which she gleefully wished me and my Family a very Merry Xmas and Happy New Years, and off she went.

So am I angry at his family? hell yea.

Suddenly just because he has a job and a new girlfriend that seems to cancel out all the evils of his last 13 years, and 4 of those with me too.

It seems to cancel out the fact that he still has a tendency to be very dangerous, still abusive, dishonest, and cruel.

And just because his new girlfriend happens to be a Psychiatrist?

Is that a recipe for disaster or what?

I never saw him as a person who liked people 'managing him'. So what happens when she starts analysing his behaviour and he gets angry? Pfft I can just imagine.

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« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2014, 06:56:26 AM »

While the BPDx's family are nice people, i get frustrated sometimes because i feel as if they are the ones that can do the most to control her but kind of of just turn a blind a eye to it. Like oh she keeps running around having babies, and jumping from guy to guy and moving all over the place. No big deal.

In all fairness there's probably a lot more friction going on then i'm led to believe as the BPDx's mom had to throw her out of her house but the initial impression i get is that they somewhat tolerate the behavior.
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« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2014, 07:40:50 AM »

Divorce was final summer 2014.

Married and together, 25 years.

He's the one who had the affair... .he's the one who wanted the divorce.

My birthday, did I get a card, like I had for 25 years?

Nope.

Ditto on xmas.

Why?

His family is just as wacked as he is.

My ex is a 3rd generation cheater, wife dumper (after 25+ years)

His mother, brother and SIL blamed me for everything.

Said I had a hormonal imbalance (at age 30), said I had a chemical imbalance, you name it.

His mother is so self absorbed and bitter from his dad dumping her (even though she moved right in with one of his friends and has never worked a day in her life).

His brother has explosive anger issues, and his son (teen) is the next Ted Bundy.

SIL; whew... .

His Father calls my ex by his brothers name (has for 20+ years, no alzheimers) because when he makes his weekly "good dad" call, he only talks about HIMSELF, and forgets which kid he called... .

No, I'm not mad at his family.

They are all screwed up.

They BELIEVE and always HAVE BELIEVED my ex 'walks on water'.

My parents think my ex walks on water.

When I told my mom that I begged him to come home (after the affair) and we were going to try again, her exact words to me were:

Oh good, I can't imagine life without ______

Really? After what he just did to me and the kids... .that's all you have to say?

Then she went on about why she was not invited to my oldest childs b-day party, and how hurt she was, and how it wasn't fair that she didn't get to come.

Um, hello?

Yeah, so I am not mad at his family or even my folks.

I am surrounded.

I just need to get healthy, set boundaries, and live life!
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« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2014, 08:36:51 AM »

The closest I came to getting a warning from my xBPDh's family was when his teenage daughter told me that he treated me differently to how he had treated her mother.  She said he behaved very differently around me and gave me a couple of examples of slightly abusive behaviour that he had done to his ex.  She also told me that her mother had been scared of him.

This should have been a huge    at the time, but he was being so good to me that I didn't really believe it was as bad as she made out.  

This brings up the question... .would you have believed it if you were warned?

IMO family members probably don't speak up because they don't want to get involved... .or they assume you already know the issues.
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« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2014, 08:41:13 AM »

The closest I came to getting a warning from my xBPDh's family was when his teenage daughter told me that he treated me differently to how he had treated her mother.  

She said he behaved very differently around me and gave me a couple of examples of slightly abusive behaviour that he had done to his ex.  

She also told me that her mother had been scared of him.

This should have been a huge    at the time, but he was being so good to me that I didn't really believe it was as bad as she made out.  

This brings up the question... .would you have believed it if you were warned?

IMO family members probably don't speak up because they don't want to get involved... .or they assume you already know the issues.

I was young... .23/24 years old.

No, I would not have heeded warnings.

His family thinks he's perfect (just like them) so no, there would be no warning.

It could go either way. Extended family will not warn because they don't see a problem?

OR They want to get rid of the person and sorry about your bad luck.

I think now that I am learning about what a healthy relationship is, I will be more proactive to eliminate unhealthy people.

Knowledge is power!
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