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« on: January 17, 2015, 11:26:14 PM »

I haven't posted on here in a while.  Even though I don't post on here as much, I still spend time reading the other posts.  I had been out of the relationship for a while, when she came back.  I thought that I knew what to do this time.  I know that BPD is a attachment disorder so I thought I would hold back and not rush into anything.  I have come to realize no matter how well you know the disorder, you will never get it right.  I knew this going into it but for some reason thought I could handle it.  I can't.  She has gotten some better.  She doesn't rage like she used to.  She has been going to a therapist that has helped her in some ways.  I learned that when I got too close, she would pull away.  But then I would stay back and she would complain that I was being distant.  Then she complained that all I wanted her was for sex.  I reassured her that wasn't the case.  So I pulled back a little on that.  But you guessed it, she said that I didn't pursue her enough for sex.  So it really doesn't matter what I do or don't do, I am always wrong.  I thought I knew what to do this time, but I don't.  I think I could read all the books on BPD, I could read every post on this site, and I could do it 1000 different ways, but I would never get it right.  It is so frustrating to love someone like this.  But it's even more frustrating to understand why I would ever take her back.  So the relationship ended again.  I'm not upset though.  I am kind of relieved.  But now it's my time again to reflect what got me back in this relationship.  I think it comes from my childhood and always having to prove my worth and my love to my mom.  I could never make her love me or accept me for who I was.  And she still doesn't.   Her love was performance based.  Just as it is with my dBPDex.  Anyways... .I am back.   
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2015, 11:27:50 PM »

sorry it's supposed to only have one waving smiley face.  Haven't done this in a while.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2015, 02:11:21 AM »

  Welcome back, WhoMe.

I'm sorry for the circumstances that brought you back here.   It sounds like you're in a good mental place. You've come to a place of acceptance. That's vital for detaching and moving on. I'm glad you feel more relieved than upset.

I have come to realize no matter how well you know the disorder, you will never get it right. 

Doing the right thing (click to insert in post) This is the truth. You can never overcome another person's disorder.

It is so frustrating to love someone like this.  But it's even more frustrating to understand why I would ever take her back. 

It is frustrating. But don't beat yourself up. Yes, maybe you "knew" better in the rational part of your brain, but you did what you felt was best at the time. There's no shame in loving someone.

This is a wonderful opportunity to learn who you are and what you need and want in life. Treat this as a gift, as lessons learned, instead of as a frustrating misstep.

But now it's my time again to reflect what got me back in this relationship.  I think it comes from my childhood and always having to prove my worth and my love to my mom.  I could never make her love me or accept me for who I was.  And she still doesn't. Her love was performance based.  Just as it is with my dBPDex.

You're doing great work, reflecting on yourself.  Doing the right thing (click to insert in post)

Conditional love from a parent is traumatic to a child's psyche. I'm so sorry you had to grow up with that. The attachments we make in infancy/childhood certainly affect the relationships we choose as adults. If what you always knew of love was "performance-based," then it makes sense that you would continue to seek out those familiar types of relationships.

Like you, I realized that my relationship with my exBPDbf reminded me a lot of my relationship with my mother. This led me to start really looking at my FOO impacts, and I've learned a lot so far... .and am still learning and processing.

Member 2010 has a lot of helpful posts on using our BPD relationships to discover our own core wounds. This is one of my favorites--

Borderlines seek to attach to a person that represents the false self they wish they could have. False selves are how we wish to appear to others. They are anything we can think to protect our real self from harm. The false self is what we think makes us distinctive, different, and therefore special. You will find your false self crushed when it is mirrored, reflected back to you in your highest glory and then discarded as worthless by another person who has no self of their own, and must borrow yours.

A false self hides your inner child for protection against thoughts that you are insignificant, are unworthy, unlovable, etc. It involves your earliest survival instincts to attach to your first object, Mother, who sets the mood for abandonment (neglect, absenteeism) or engulfment (smothering, doting). The false self was what we had to come up with to please our caretaker -- by determining what was valuable to her -- and guarantee our survival (bond). Years later, as adults, we select people to hear the same message we learned as children -- and we attract them with our false selves -- because the false self is what we used initially to help us with the parent.


What parallels can you see with your relationships with your exgf and your mother?
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2015, 04:49:46 AM »

Welcome back WhoMe51. Though I am sorry it didn't work out for you and you had to go through the pain of recycle and leaving again. I too thought armed with knowledge about the disorder I could make it work. Once we become their trigger for their abandonment issues there is not going back. It is impossible to get it right. I feel for you.  x x
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2015, 08:33:20 AM »

Thank you for the the encouraging posts welcoming me back. 

I hope my post yesterday didn't sound too callous when I said I was relieved.  I do love her.  But I am also addicted to the chaos and drama of the relationship too.  I realized yesterday while I am off fighting battles with her, I don't have to concentrate on where I am lacking.  I don't have to face my insecurities and fears while I am helping her.  We did have some good times but as time went on together, there were more hurtful times.  She is beautiful and charming to the outside world, but with me the true person would come out.  That's why I kept going back.  I thought that if she saw that I loved her, that she would be the person that she worked so hard to portray herself as.  Looking back though I think I did the same thing.  I realize that is how I hid my own insecurities.  There are a lot of parallels with the relationship with my mom and my dBPDexgf.  The one that stands out and shouts the loudest is I could never figure out how to make them happy.  My mom would tell me if you do this and this then I will be happy with you.  And my gf would say the same thing and every time I reached the goal it would be moved.  Then I would sit in my shame because I could never get it right.  It made me try harder in both relationships until resentment set in because I knew I could never make either happy.  And I thought if I could just fix my relationship with my BPD, then it would prove to everyone that I am not a failure in relationships.  But I always came up with the same result.  Because as each of know the disorder always wins.  It doesn't matter who you are or what you are the disorder is stronger and will win at all costs.  And now comes the letting the fantasy go.  In time the fog will be purged from my soul and I will see things clearly.  The sadness will lift and I will eventually have a new normal.  But this time, I will come out better.  I will be better because of what this relationship has taught me.  I have used relationships as a crutch or a feel good about myself thing.  It opened the door to show me how codependent I am.  I am in therapy again for this.  I will work through this and be a better person.  It will take time and I refuse to be hard on myself.  I do enjoy reading 2010's posts.  He has a lot of insight on BPD and a lot more on us nons.  This site is a God send because it has helped me see so much. 
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