Does the madness ever end?

[Depression = 72% of members]

What do you tell someone who never listens?

It don't matter because they are not listening. Lol

I'm learning as I go, it takes time unfortunately

Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never,

Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, get into a relationship with a person with BPD, NPD, or socialpath.

And

Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never,

Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, have a child with a person with BPD, NPD, or socialpath.

This is my new tune of today... .singing it right now.

Catchie lyrics huh?

Someone shoot me

I've got to get well and get my son away from his mother.

[JerryRG]

What do you tell someone who never listens?

It don't matter because they are not listening. Lol

I'm learning as I go, it takes time unfortunately

Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never,

Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, get into a relationship with a person with BPD, NPD, or socialpath.

And

Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never,

Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, have a child with a person with BPD, NPD, or socialpath.

This is my new tune of today... .singing it right now.

Catchie lyrics huh?

Someone shoot me

I've got to get well and get my son away from his mother.

[Ahoy]

No disrespect to anyone else on here and what we are all going through in our recovery (the seven layers of hell) but you seem to be doing rougher than most.

Having the child together, dealing with illness, your relationship breakdown and her cruel lies post-separation. It's just so very much for a person to take in and process.

It's wrong for me to tell you what to do on here, your life is your own story to write but my goodness your ex sounds like nothing but trouble! She claimed she was sexually assaulted by you after your separation!

Be strong for you, your child and get her out of your life and your thoughts as much as you can mate!

Read your posts over the last 14 days if you need inspiration. She has put you right back on the roller-coaster and it's not good at all!

[C.Stein]

What do you tell someone who never listens?

You tell them nothing.  The amount of contact you should have with your ex is as little as is humanly possible!  I think you know this, now it is up to you to enforce it.   

[JerryRG]

She claims I assulted her during the beginning of or relationship and she never mentioned it at the time. We were engaged 2 months after and once again after this. It's nonsense and a control tactic and goes completely against any rational thought. Why make me out a monster and beg me to be in my son's life.

She loves to wound people, seen her do it many times.

I expect her to change, this is not rational thinking on my part.

I treated her well, she treated me awful during our relationship, I expected her to change, this is an irrational thinking process.

My failure lies in my belief she can, or even wants to change.

And yes I know she is BPD and NPD but I'm fully convinced she's socialpathic as well. She's extremely cruel and viciously cold and seems to lack any conscience. She makes her own rules.

And yes limited contact is the only way to deal with her. Finding out last night her bf beat her sending her to the ER only confirms my belief she is either driving him insane with her BPD issues and she truly believes on some level she deserves to be abused. She pushed for fights with me more than I can count and actually asked me to punch her one day. Just calmly looked at me while reclined in my chair to hit her.

Red flag? I wasn't listening to my gut for sure

I thought I could love her into normality

Soo back on the coaster but only if I choose to ride.

I must protect my son

I must protect his life

[Hadlee]

Jerry, you can end the madness somewhat... .

Go through the courts regarding access to your son   Make all of this official.  Hell, you could even arrange for someone else to pick up and drop off your son to avoid seeing her.  You don't have to have ALL of this contact with her.  Only deal with her via email, and only in regards to your son.  That's it.  It's just madness and only you can stop it. 

Don't continue on the ride, Jerry.  Take steps now to free yourself of all this drama.  It's ridiculous. 

[freemanstrut]

Jerry:

Just think about how strong you are and have been to survive up until this point.

You can do this.