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« on: September 08, 2016, 04:55:03 PM »

Something that I needed to share.

It happened 6 months after he himself got split black.

When he initially got with her he thought he had won the lottery and used to mock me that he was better than me etc. Obviously I had no love for him.

At the time I thought he had "won" and was going to live happily ever after. And all of her Facebook posts were showing gifts from him and saying she was so happy.

But the next time i saw him 6 months later the guy looked like he'd aged 10 years. He looked awful. And she bounced 2 months later. I don't think he ever found out about BPD so he just turned to drink to try and feel better. It's a sad story.

Well this morning I find out he killed himself two nights ago.

Things are never what they seem, and don't belive anything you see online. Also try not to hate your replacement because chances are they will end up worse than you in time
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2016, 05:12:30 PM »

Wow... .
that is terrible to hear

They say BPDs are often suicidal but judging by the posts here and stories like this, it seems like the people they date are just as likely to be suicidal.

I wonder what your BPD ex thinks of this.
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2016, 05:16:54 PM »

Thank you for sharing your story. I remember telling my friend once sometime over the last few months as I move through this process that i wish my ex could be improsioned and kept from society because she is an emotional criminal. I told him that I could honestly see someone taking their own life as a result of what she does to her romantic partners and that I am incredibly lucky to be a strong enough person to have never come close to that thought yet I could totally understand why someone would do that due to how crushingly painful this has been.

It kind of makes you wonder how their other exes dealt with the sudden discard after being idealized / love-bombed so convincingly? She shared with me little tidbits of past relationships where she did the same thing that she ended up doing to me in terms of just randomly moving out one day without warning and never seeing them again. Instead of taking this as a huge red flag, I was blinded by the idealization and thought I was different, that I was her true love and that these other guys must have deserved yet of course now I know the truth. I wonder if any of these guys took our path and sought out support communities such as bpdfamily?

In reality, I think that most of them got caught in the recycling process and remained in her "bullpen" to possible be called upon at a later date. I say this because she was constantly texting/communicating with a slew of ex boyfriends and I always confronted her saying that I wasn't ok with this. I'm guessing that many of these guys are simply blinded by her overt physical attractiveness and never really healed from being discarded and instead remained somewhat attached to her, hoping for her to come back and being enabled to believe this through her constant contact with them.

In the end, stories like this just make me even more thankful for this community and for the overall wealth of resources that exist on BPD / other cluster B disorders that have helped me as I move through this and have reinforced over 2 months of strict no contact. All I can say is that I hope the next guy does the same and that no one ever takes their own lives as a result of her deceptive, callous and destructive behavior.
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2016, 05:32:29 PM »

inferno,

That is so terrible and sad but so necessary for us all to read and remember.  If you are able to get out of the relationahip, you are very lucky.  I can understand how someone might get so desperate, lost, confused that they drink/do drugs to cope.  Then take it even a step further just to get it to stop... .

Thank you for sharing... .definately helps me stay focused and realize that getting out was a much bigger blessing than the trauma I suffered in the relationship.

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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2016, 05:34:47 PM »

I'm sorry Inferno, hearing about someone killing themselves, giving up on life, is never a good thing.

You can't blame her, although you were in a relationship with the same woman; did you find yourself going to dark places mentally when you were with her, and how does this news change the way you see things now?
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2016, 06:19:00 PM »

Wow... .
that is terrible to hear

They say BPDs are often suicidal but judging by the posts here and stories like this, it seems like the people they date are just as likely to be suicidal.

I wonder what your BPD ex thinks of this.

She's using it for attention and sympathy on social media

She said p"i tried to save him from his demons"

She cheated on him their entire relationship
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2016, 06:22:05 PM »

I'm sorry Inferno, hearing about someone killing themselves, giving up on life, is never a good thing.

You can't blame her, although you were in a relationship with the same woman; did you find yourself going to dark places mentally when you were with her, and how does this news change the way you see things now?


Oh absolutely I was verging on suicidal myself for stretches of time.

I don't blame her, we ultimately are responsible for ourselves but I do pity him it's tragic he couldn't get himself some help
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2016, 08:17:52 PM »

Wow.  That's... .just... .wow. 

I hope you're okay.  Something like this would probably hit me pretty hard, if I'm honest.  Even though he was the replacement, it's got to bring up a lot of emotions for you.

The kind of pain involved in losing someone so "perfect" is definitely enough to drive someone over the edge.  That's for sure - and if he never knew about the BPD, that's even worse. 

How are you feeling about all this?
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2016, 08:33:47 PM »

Wow.  That's... .just... .wow. 

I hope you're okay.  Something like this would probably hit me pretty hard, if I'm honest.  Even though he was the replacement, it's got to bring up a lot of emotions for you.

The kind of pain involved in losing someone so "perfect" is definitely enough to drive someone over the edge.  That's for sure - and if he never knew about the BPD, that's even worse. 

How are you feeling about all this?

Don't really know how I feel tbh.

It's like "s*** got real" in a big way, you read about this sort of thing but always wonder if maybe you are over sensitive and that it's not that serious.

Then this happens.

It's just unreal, it validates to me that this BPD stuff is serious, like really serious.

I'm also just shaking my head at her sympathy grab. I thought for a second this might actually wake her up. I have a feeling now that she never will.
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2016, 08:40:26 PM »

It's just unreal, it validates to me that this BPD stuff is serious, like really serious.

It is.  And we can take a moment to reflect on how those of us on the Detaching board made it out and are looking for healthy answers here, and congratulate ourselves and celebrate that a little.  And just think how many folks are sitting on a bar stool right now, drowning their sorrows and talking it out with the dude on the stool next to him, confused as hell, hurting, and trying to find answers.  I've been that guy.  This is far better.
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2016, 09:01:36 PM »

Don't really know how I feel tbh.

It's like "s*** got real" in a big way

Yes. Yes, it did. Quite a sobering event, really.  As "omigosh" as that is for me, it's got to be surreal for you, yeah?

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It's just unreal, it validates to me that this BPD stuff is serious, like really serious.

No doubt!  I've had some dark thoughts myself this week, I won't lie, but I've been able to voice my pain - and get the compassion and camaraderie here that I've needed.  Talking about it with others who have had such similar experiences - yours being so especially similar - has helped me so much to stay grounded.

I'm so thankful for this forum, and for what you've shared.  I really mean that. 

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I'm also just shaking my head at her sympathy grab. I thought for a second this might actually wake her up. I have a feeling now that she never will.

I cannot even wrap my brain around how she responded.  But, then, trying to make a mental illness into something rational and understandable is like reasoning with a drunk person - it's an effort in futility. 
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2016, 10:09:12 PM »

Like you, Infern0, I felt dark thoughts,  like wandering of into the hills to die of exposure,  despite having a baby and a toddler at home.  I reasoned that they were set up financially. This was before I found out about the cheating.  It's sobering to think about how many suffer in silence and depression,  often presenting a different face to the world. I'm glad you got out.
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2016, 10:37:14 PM »

I am ashamed to admit it, but at the darkest hour when she pranced off getting married after getting pregnant a month after the end, well ending it crossed my mind a few times.   I was in such a painful dark place.   Luckily I sought out good people who were sound to talk to and I  never drank.  I hope we all here Thank our lucky stars we didn't succumb to these people one way or another.   I'm great ful to have found this site and hope I can pay it forward.    Peace be with You
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2016, 11:43:04 PM »

I myself still have dark thoughts but I refuse to give her the pleasure of her causing me any more pain.

I mourn the loss of a friend and the memories. Her as an individual is dead to me.

Recently found out she's turned to aggressive drinking to suppress her guilt and shame for the way she treated me. I pity this person I once would of done anything for.

Such a destructive illness
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2016, 04:44:19 AM »

Wow, this is truly sad to hear, and a reminder of how close I came to taking my own life. I found out my replacement had been dumped last night, and I felt happy for him. He probably feels the exact opposite, but it's a lucky escape.
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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2016, 05:14:41 AM »

I think the moral is that we ourselves have issues we need to deal with and we have the advantage of knowing our exes have BPD, that it isn't all about us. We can admit our flaws too and work on those.

They say BPD traits rub off on you, the longer you're with them too. Perhaps this is what happened.

Being put so high up on a pedestal and then being knocked off by the very person who built it is a difficult and bitter pill to swallow and sometimes we think we can't handle it.

It's very sad to think that this could've been any one of us, especially, speaking for myself, had I not discovered this community.

Part of me wants to keep an eye on the new guy just incase this happens to him now.
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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2016, 05:33:22 AM »

This story is a cautionary tale.

Perhaps we are fortunate to put ourselves on a safety net before our minds fell into the abyss.
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2016, 06:29:11 AM »

They say BPD traits rub off on you, the longer you're with them too.

Most of us came here with pre-existing wounds. A borderline partner may  trigger some of these material to the surface, but it was all there before relationship.

I'm sorry Inferno. It must be hard for you now.  
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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2016, 06:32:34 AM »

Wow... .
that is terrible to hear

They say BPDs are often suicidal but judging by the posts here and stories like this, it seems like the people they date are just as likely to be suicidal.

I wonder what your BPD ex thinks of this.

She's using it for attention and sympathy on social media

She said p"i tried to save him from his demons"

She cheated on him their entire relationship


The fact she is using this to get sympathy is... .beyond any redemption.
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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2016, 06:40:24 AM »

She's using it for attention and sympathy on social media

She said p"i tried to save him from his demons"

She cheated on him their entire relationship

The fact she is using this to get sympathy is... .beyond any redemption.

It's also helpful to consider how many of those demons might have been projected, and how buying into someone's negative projections can cause us to question whether we want to continue living.  Who bought into that stuff from their exes and for how long?
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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2016, 10:50:07 AM »

Wow, this is an earthquake of a post. And what you write below resonates so much with me. It is devastatingly serious.

I also struggled with suicidal ideation post-break up-- not very strong, but there for sure. Three months out (and 1 month NC), those thoughts don't pop up in my head anymore, thank goodness.






It's like "s*** got real" in a big way, you read about this sort of thing but always wonder if maybe you are over sensitive and that it's not that serious.

Then this happens.

It's just unreal, it validates to me that this BPD stuff is serious, like really serious.

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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2016, 11:28:45 AM »

Inferno, thanks for sharing, and I'm sorry you're having to deal with the feelings that come with this sadness. 
It reminds me of my T telling me that this illness could actually kill me if I stayed with her.  I didn't understand at the time, but through the progression I could feel the life being slowly ripped from my body... .emotionally drained, mentally drained, and physically drained... .I can look back and see if I hadn't left, I too may have had suicidal thoughts.  You're correct, this illness is very serious, it disorders the lives of everyone it comes close to... .
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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2016, 11:43:41 AM »

First, holy crap!  My heart goes out to him.  Second, borderlines are going to borderline.  What I mean by that is that so long as they are symptomatic, they will deal with pain in unhealthy and damaging ways.  The best way to look at it is that there's a reason they are a statistically distinct part of the population.

As a life lesson, be thankful that you've found a support system.  You've unfortunately seen the business end of what happens when you don't.  Even if most people don't get to the point of suicide, a lack of support can leave permanent marks on one's psyche.  It's my hope that your ex gets the help she needs, but until then, you have to care for yourself.
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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2016, 11:48:12 AM »

That is terribly sad. But yes your message was seriously an eye opener for many reasons

1) the "replacement" besides another Normal innocent person is often another emotionally I'll innocent person (from my experience his new partner has really low self esteem, it's sad cause I don't see it lasting and I honestly hope something like this doesn't happen)

2) yes most of us are sad, shocked or have extra stress to deal with due to kids, and it's honestly a blessing that we do move on, that we can cope to move on.


3) it's terrible, it's such an ugly sickness and wish we can do something but we can't.

4) I'm thankful for this site and everyone that was and is there for me
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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2016, 12:37:06 PM »

Its sad that it came to that.

I agree dont hate the replacement after all we were probably someones replacemet.
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« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2016, 06:45:52 PM »

I agree strongly to all others replys to this . Inferno you must of been stronger than you first thought this is tragic .
When my ex first dumped me and found a replacement I had suicidal thoughts and if it wasn't for a close freind that listerned to me going over and over the same things I think I would of done it . I've since been replaced 3 more times since then but it's actualy helped me to move on and detach from my ex .
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« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2016, 01:21:04 PM »

How are you doing infern0?
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« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2016, 04:18:49 PM »

Very sobering, sad, but thank you for sharing this tragedy. BPD relationships and their aftermath are no joke. I also saw my replacement go from elation to destruction in less than a 2 months. Hard to like him at first, but I later felt a lot of sympathy as I think she dropped him on his head even harder than she did me. Saw a photo of him some months; he looks like a shell of his former self. After this I too pondered imprisonment for Borderlines, emotional terrorists. The world needs so much healing; start with oneself. Grateful for this board.
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« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2016, 08:53:57 PM »

How are you doing infern0?

This whole thing has been on my mind too much lately, I'm trying to shake it off and get back to normal but it's hard, in a weird way still miss her or more the person I thought she was. I feel bad for my replacement too.

It's a funny thing because mine and her relationship was a "secret one" which was never made public by her but theirs was and she actually moved in with him.

But theirs only lasted a little over a year all told, ours was longer on and off.

But now I feel maybe I was actually lucky to never get that close.

I feel bad too because she told me theirs was a "show relationship" and she didn't really love him. But did me.

Obviously it's impossible to know what's true and what's not but still just the words are bad
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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2016, 08:59:35 PM »

How are you doing infern0?

This whole thing has been on my mind too much lately, I'm trying to shake it off and get back to normal but it's hard, in a weird way still miss her or more the person I thought she was. I feel bad for my replacement too.

It's a funny thing because mine and her relationship was a "secret one" which was never made public by her but theirs was and she actually moved in with him.

But theirs only lasted a little over a year all told, ours was longer on and off.

But now I feel maybe I was actually lucky to never get that close.

I feel bad too because she told me theirs was a "show relationship" and she didn't really love him. But did me.

Obviously it's impossible to know what's true and what's not but still just the words are bad

Do you know how she feels about the passing ? Just curious on how she reacted
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